Comments on: Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum? http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:46:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20160 Mark Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:40:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20160 Guy, that's where the religious logic of truth rubs up against the secular logic of democracy. It's not necessary for the Pope to be representative of the opinions of Catholics, the theological argument would go, as his function is to lead them into the truth. Guy, that’s where the religious logic of truth rubs up against the secular logic of democracy. It’s not necessary for the Pope to be representative of the opinions of Catholics, the theological argument would go, as his function is to lead them into the truth.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44962 Mark Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:40:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44962 Guy, that's where the religious logic of truth rubs up against the secular logic of democracy. It's not necessary for the Pope to be representative of the opinions of Catholics, the theological argument would go, as his function is to lead them into the truth. Guy, that’s where the religious logic of truth rubs up against the secular logic of democracy. It’s not necessary for the Pope to be representative of the opinions of Catholics, the theological argument would go, as his function is to lead them into the truth.

]]> By: Guy http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20159 Guy Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:31:47 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20159 I think when looking at the Pope's perspective on social justice issues, it's important to criticise the process for electing the Pope first and foremost, not the man himself who has just passed away. It's probably true that the Pope's views were not truly representative of Catholics generally, due to the fact that he was originally elected by the world's cardinals alone. I think when looking at the Pope’s perspective on social justice issues, it’s important to criticise the process for electing the Pope first and foremost, not the man himself who has just passed away. It’s probably true that the Pope’s views were not truly representative of Catholics generally, due to the fact that he was originally elected by the world’s cardinals alone.

]]> By: Guy http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44961 Guy Mon, 04 Apr 2005 01:31:47 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44961 I think when looking at the Pope's perspective on social justice issues, it's important to criticise the process for electing the Pope first and foremost, not the man himself who has just passed away. It's probably true that the Pope's views were not truly representative of Catholics generally, due to the fact that he was originally elected by the world's cardinals alone. I think when looking at the Pope’s perspective on social justice issues, it’s important to criticise the process for electing the Pope first and foremost, not the man himself who has just passed away. It’s probably true that the Pope’s views were not truly representative of Catholics generally, due to the fact that he was originally elected by the world’s cardinals alone.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20158 Mark Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:44:17 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20158 It's interesting how few people (myself included) interested in politics agree with the Pope consistently - possibly because his position (while consistent) was articulated from very different premisses. Some of his social conservative admirers are embarrassed by his social justice views, for instance. It’s interesting how few people (myself included) interested in politics agree with the Pope consistently – possibly because his position (while consistent) was articulated from very different premisses. Some of his social conservative admirers are embarrassed by his social justice views, for instance.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44960 Mark Sun, 03 Apr 2005 23:44:17 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44960 It's interesting how few people (myself included) interested in politics agree with the Pope consistently - possibly because his position (while consistent) was articulated from very different premisses. Some of his social conservative admirers are embarrassed by his social justice views, for instance. It’s interesting how few people (myself included) interested in politics agree with the Pope consistently – possibly because his position (while consistent) was articulated from very different premisses. Some of his social conservative admirers are embarrassed by his social justice views, for instance.

]]> By: Andrew Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20157 Andrew Norton Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:05:33 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20157 As a liberal atheist, I thought John Paul II was on the wrong side of just about every moral and ethical debate within Western societies. But on the huge political battles of the twentieth century, the battles that mattered more than any other, against Nazism and against communsim, he was undoubtedly on the right side, and very significantly on the right side in the case of communism. For that at least he deserves an honourable place in history. As a liberal atheist, I thought John Paul II was on the wrong side of just about every moral and ethical debate within Western societies. But on the huge political battles of the twentieth century, the battles that mattered more than any other, against Nazism and against communsim, he was undoubtedly on the right side, and very significantly on the right side in the case of communism. For that at least he deserves an honourable place in history.

]]> By: Andrew Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44959 Andrew Norton Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:05:33 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44959 As a liberal atheist, I thought John Paul II was on the wrong side of just about every moral and ethical debate within Western societies. But on the huge political battles of the twentieth century, the battles that mattered more than any other, against Nazism and against communsim, he was undoubtedly on the right side, and very significantly on the right side in the case of communism. For that at least he deserves an honourable place in history. As a liberal atheist, I thought John Paul II was on the wrong side of just about every moral and ethical debate within Western societies. But on the huge political battles of the twentieth century, the battles that mattered more than any other, against Nazism and against communsim, he was undoubtedly on the right side, and very significantly on the right side in the case of communism. For that at least he deserves an honourable place in history.

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20156 Kim Sun, 03 Apr 2005 16:01:35 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-20156 Remnant is the right word to describe <a href="http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/p13-bishop.htm" rel="nofollow">truecatholic.org</a>: <blockquote>Kalispell, Montana, USA - Pope Pius XIII was today consecrated as a Bishop of the Catholic Church. This solemn rite of episcopal consecration can be found in its entirety at <a>http://www.truecatholic.org/consecratebishop.htm</a> The consecrator was + Gordon Cardinal Bateman of Victoria, Australia. The ceremony was held in a rented hotel ballroom in Kalispell, Montana, USA. There were <b>28 members of the faithful in attendance</b>, some travelling thousands of miles to witness this awe-inspiring event. Three were recent converts, who the day prior, received conditional Baptism as well as Confirmation from the pope.</blockquote> It's a bit sad really when you read some more of the site. Remnant is the right word to describe truecatholic.org:

Kalispell, Montana, USA – Pope Pius XIII was today consecrated as a Bishop of the Catholic Church. This solemn rite of episcopal consecration can be found in its entirety at http://www.truecatholic.org/consecratebishop.htm

The consecrator was + Gordon Cardinal Bateman of Victoria, Australia. The ceremony was held in a rented hotel ballroom in Kalispell, Montana, USA. There were 28 members of the faithful in attendance, some travelling thousands of miles to witness this awe-inspiring event. Three were recent converts, who the day prior, received conditional Baptism as well as Confirmation from the pope.

It’s a bit sad really when you read some more of the site.

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44958 Kim Sun, 03 Apr 2005 16:01:35 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/04/annuntio-vobis-gaudium-magnum/#comment-44958 Remnant is the right word to describe <a href="http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/p13-bishop.htm" rel="nofollow">truecatholic.org</a>: <blockquote>Kalispell, Montana, USA - Pope Pius XIII was today consecrated as a Bishop of the Catholic Church. This solemn rite of episcopal consecration can be found in its entirety at <a>http://www.truecatholic.org/consecratebishop.htm</a> The consecrator was + Gordon Cardinal Bateman of Victoria, Australia. The ceremony was held in a rented hotel ballroom in Kalispell, Montana, USA. There were <b>28 members of the faithful in attendance</b>, some travelling thousands of miles to witness this awe-inspiring event. Three were recent converts, who the day prior, received conditional Baptism as well as Confirmation from the pope.</blockquote> It's a bit sad really when you read some more of the site. Remnant is the right word to describe truecatholic.org:

Kalispell, Montana, USA – Pope Pius XIII was today consecrated as a Bishop of the Catholic Church. This solemn rite of episcopal consecration can be found in its entirety at http://www.truecatholic.org/consecratebishop.htm

The consecrator was + Gordon Cardinal Bateman of Victoria, Australia. The ceremony was held in a rented hotel ballroom in Kalispell, Montana, USA. There were 28 members of the faithful in attendance, some travelling thousands of miles to witness this awe-inspiring event. Three were recent converts, who the day prior, received conditional Baptism as well as Confirmation from the pope.

It’s a bit sad really when you read some more of the site.

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