Comments on: Menzies Redux? http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:40:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3737 Mark Sun, 01 May 2005 11:16:58 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3737 Costello has a vision of Costello PM, Homer - that's about as far as it goes, I think! Costello has a vision of Costello PM, Homer - that’s about as far as it goes, I think!

]]> By: Homer Paxton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3735 Homer Paxton Sun, 01 May 2005 11:14:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3735 costello , like Keating with Hawke, cannot challenge howard until he looks like a better person to win votes than Howard. It took fightback for Hawke to look like he didn't have a clue after winning an election they shouldn't have in 1990. There are few in the Liberal party who believe Costello is better than Howard at present. My guess is that this wil change as the circumstances change between now and the next election. Mind you at least the public thought Keating had a vision.does anyone really think Costello has? costello , like Keating with Hawke, cannot challenge howard until he looks like a better person to win votes than Howard.
It took fightback for Hawke to look like he didn’t have a clue after winning an election they shouldn’t have in 1990.
There are few in the Liberal party who believe Costello is better than Howard at present.
My guess is that this wil change as the circumstances change between now and the next election.
Mind you at least the public thought Keating had a vision.does anyone really think Costello has?

]]> By: saint http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3733 saint Sun, 01 May 2005 07:10:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3733 Howard ain't going anywhere. And if he can help it, neither can Costello. I think the fireworks will come if Howard does not give Costello another portfolio ("anything but Foreign Affairs" as he put it). Howard ain’t going anywhere. And if he can help it, neither can Costello. I think the fireworks will come if Howard does not give Costello another portfolio (”anything but Foreign Affairs” as he put it).

]]> By: Andrew Frazer http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3707 Andrew Frazer Sun, 01 May 2005 02:50:11 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3707 The ball can hardly be in Costello's court when Howard has both of Costello's happily stashed away for safe keeping. The ball can hardly be in Costello’s court when Howard has both of Costello’s happily stashed away for safe keeping.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3696 Mark Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:56:59 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3696 Howard of course is doing the usual backaway maneouvre, but this really does make Costello look pathetic. Howard also - to my knowledge - hasn't explained how his statements were "misinterpreted". There's definitely a fair bit of jockeying going on - Rob's right about Costello and Abbott, and Nelson is doing his accustomed hyperactive self-promotion thing. Howard of course is doing the usual backaway maneouvre, but this really does make Costello look pathetic. Howard also - to my knowledge - hasn’t explained how his statements were “misinterpreted”.

There’s definitely a fair bit of jockeying going on - Rob’s right about Costello and Abbott, and Nelson is doing his accustomed hyperactive self-promotion thing.

]]> By: Guy http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3689 Guy Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:27:01 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3689 In place of <a HREF="http://www.wsacaucus.org/archives/2005/04/does_john_howar.html" rel="nofollow">ze trackback</a>. The rodent ain't going nowhere unless Bomber pulls off a miracle at the next poll, or the former puts in a bit too much effort when jogging one morning... In place of ze trackback.

The rodent ain’t going nowhere unless Bomber pulls off a miracle at the next poll, or the former puts in a bit too much effort when jogging one morning…

]]> By: Homer Paxton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3681 Homer Paxton Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:12:45 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3681 A political genius said on TA they would carry out howard in a pinebox before he hands over to anyone. I stand by that however I think Costello will be PM before the next election because i think like bob hawke he will eventually get on the nose. however unlike keating I can't see costello beating anyone in the next election. A political genius said on TA they would carry out howard in a pinebox before he hands over to anyone.
I stand by that however I think Costello will be PM before the next election because i think like bob hawke he will eventually get on the nose.
however unlike keating I can’t see costello beating anyone in the next election.

]]> By: Robert http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3680 Robert Sat, 30 Apr 2005 09:04:42 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3680 I don't think Howard really expects to last until the next election. He's just telling us he doesn't see Costello as a natural successor, and prompting the anti-Costello forces to sort out who they're going to run with. But I'm not so sure Costello won't make a move -- the Safety Net rollback and IVF limits are budget measures that seem to be designed to put Abbott in a tight spot with the voters. I don’t think Howard really expects to last until the next election. He’s just telling us he doesn’t see Costello as a natural successor, and prompting the anti-Costello forces to sort out who they’re going to run with. But I’m not so sure Costello won’t make a move — the Safety Net rollback and IVF limits are budget measures that seem to be designed to put Abbott in a tight spot with the voters.

]]> By: Peter Kemp http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3679 Peter Kemp Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:21:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3679 Like all leaders at the helm for so long, the feeling of invincibility sets in. Caucescu of Rumania, Jo Blelke, Fraser, Hawke, Chamberlain, the list goes on and on with Ming the Merciless as the noticeable exception. Hubris as they say is inevitably followed by nemesis but doubtless Johnny considers himself the exception. Roll on the inevitable humiliation for criminal garbage. Like all leaders at the helm for so long, the feeling of invincibility sets in. Caucescu of Rumania, Jo Blelke, Fraser, Hawke, Chamberlain, the list goes on and on with Ming the Merciless as the noticeable exception. Hubris as they say is inevitably followed by nemesis but doubtless Johnny considers himself the exception. Roll on the inevitable humiliation for criminal garbage.

]]> By: Michael S. http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3678 Michael S. Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:34:21 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/04/30/menzies-redux/#comment-3678 Come on - has anyone really thought (bar a few costello diehards) the rodent is going to give it away? As Mark says the only real surprise here is that Howard has made such a strong statement publicly. The irony of it all is that the one and only thing that I think will dislodge Howard in the medium term is big economic trouble - someting which may fall back on the Man who has been treasurer for years. Come on - has anyone really thought (bar a few costello diehards) the rodent is going to give it away?

As Mark says the only real surprise here is that Howard has made such a strong statement publicly.

The irony of it all is that the one and only thing that I think will dislodge Howard in the medium term is big economic trouble - someting which may fall back on the Man who has been treasurer for years.

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