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	<title>Comments on: Lefty Fantasies</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-27899</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 04:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little surprised that neither Last and First Men nor Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon are on the list.  One of Stapledon&#039;s consistent themes is that anarcho-communism is the necessary societal basis for a fully human mental and spiritual community - and that Homo Sapiens as currently constituted is unlikely to be able to make such a society work.

Another one I&#039;d recommend highly is Peter F. Hamilton&#039;s Night&#039;s Dawn trilogy, in which we find the transhuman eco-socialism of the Edenists, the developmental-state communism of the human settlers of Mars, the postmaterial (indeed, post-economic) communism of the Kiint aliens, a lovely extrapolation of where the outsourcing and privatisation of security functions might lead us, and the ultimate revenge of the underclass.

Finally, I&#039;d agree that Asimov is best characterised as a left-liberal rather than a socialist, based on my reading of his best book, The End Of Eternity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little surprised that neither Last and First Men nor Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon are on the list.  One of Stapledon&#8217;s consistent themes is that anarcho-communism is the necessary societal basis for a fully human mental and spiritual community &#8211; and that Homo Sapiens as currently constituted is unlikely to be able to make such a society work.</p>
<p>Another one I&#8217;d recommend highly is Peter F. Hamilton&#8217;s Night&#8217;s Dawn trilogy, in which we find the transhuman eco-socialism of the Edenists, the developmental-state communism of the human settlers of Mars, the postmaterial (indeed, post-economic) communism of the Kiint aliens, a lovely extrapolation of where the outsourcing and privatisation of security functions might lead us, and the ultimate revenge of the underclass.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;d agree that Asimov is best characterised as a left-liberal rather than a socialist, based on my reading of his best book, The End Of Eternity.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-52701</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 04:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little surprised that neither Last and First Men nor Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon are on the list.  One of Stapledon&#039;s consistent themes is that anarcho-communism is the necessary societal basis for a fully human mental and spiritual community - and that Homo Sapiens as currently constituted is unlikely to be able to make such a society work.

Another one I&#039;d recommend highly is Peter F. Hamilton&#039;s Night&#039;s Dawn trilogy, in which we find the transhuman eco-socialism of the Edenists, the developmental-state communism of the human settlers of Mars, the postmaterial (indeed, post-economic) communism of the Kiint aliens, a lovely extrapolation of where the outsourcing and privatisation of security functions might lead us, and the ultimate revenge of the underclass.

Finally, I&#039;d agree that Asimov is best characterised as a left-liberal rather than a socialist, based on my reading of his best book, The End Of Eternity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little surprised that neither Last and First Men nor Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon are on the list.  One of Stapledon&#8217;s consistent themes is that anarcho-communism is the necessary societal basis for a fully human mental and spiritual community &#8211; and that Homo Sapiens as currently constituted is unlikely to be able to make such a society work.</p>
<p>Another one I&#8217;d recommend highly is Peter F. Hamilton&#8217;s Night&#8217;s Dawn trilogy, in which we find the transhuman eco-socialism of the Edenists, the developmental-state communism of the human settlers of Mars, the postmaterial (indeed, post-economic) communism of the Kiint aliens, a lovely extrapolation of where the outsourcing and privatisation of security functions might lead us, and the ultimate revenge of the underclass.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;d agree that Asimov is best characterised as a left-liberal rather than a socialist, based on my reading of his best book, The End Of Eternity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-27898</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great link, Nabakov, interesting list too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great link, Nabakov, interesting list too.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-52700</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great link, Nabakov, interesting list too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great link, Nabakov, interesting list too.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-27897</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate, my homie Bruce S, back in 1989 coined a good if tongue-in-cheek phrase about they way some elements of modern speculative fiction could be tagged.

&quot;&quot;Slipstream&quot; - a kind of writing that simply makes you feel very strange; the way that living in the late twentieth century makes you feel, if you are a person of a certain sensibility.&quot;

http://lib.ru/STERLINGB/catscan05.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate, my homie Bruce S, back in 1989 coined a good if tongue-in-cheek phrase about they way some elements of modern speculative fiction could be tagged.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Slipstream&#8221; &#8211; a kind of writing that simply makes you feel very strange; the way that living in the late twentieth century makes you feel, if you are a person of a certain sensibility.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://lib.ru/STERLINGB/catscan05.txt" rel="nofollow">http://lib.ru/STERLINGB/catscan05.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-52699</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate, my homie Bruce S, back in 1989 coined a good if tongue-in-cheek phrase about they way some elements of modern speculative fiction could be tagged.

&quot;&quot;Slipstream&quot; - a kind of writing that simply makes you feel very strange; the way that living in the late twentieth century makes you feel, if you are a person of a certain sensibility.&quot;

http://lib.ru/STERLINGB/catscan05.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate, my homie Bruce S, back in 1989 coined a good if tongue-in-cheek phrase about they way some elements of modern speculative fiction could be tagged.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Slipstream&#8221; &#8211; a kind of writing that simply makes you feel very strange; the way that living in the late twentieth century makes you feel, if you are a person of a certain sensibility.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://lib.ru/STERLINGB/catscan05.txt" rel="nofollow">http://lib.ru/STERLINGB/catscan05.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-27896</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Kate said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Kate said.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-52698</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Kate said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Kate said.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-27895</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s with all the &quot;oohh, I hate it when people confuse science fiction and fantasy?&quot; I think it&#039;s a touch of &quot;I ain&#039;t no David Eddings fan!&quot; coming out of the woodwork.

Frankly I think the sci-fi/fantasy divide is silly, but I&#039;m not so hot on genres at all because it ghettoises good writers. It&#039;s a tool for bookshops and the marketing departments of publishers, not a taxonomic guide to literature.

Really, all science fiction is speculative, as is fantasy, so if you want a better label it might be speculative fiction, which encompasses a range of different styles and sets of ideas.

I personally think there&#039;s books worth reading and books that aren&#039;t, and if people really need a &#039;genre&#039; to swim around within, and get &quot;annoyed&quot; that people muddy the waters between them, that&#039;s a big pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with all the &#8220;oohh, I hate it when people confuse science fiction and fantasy?&#8221; I think it&#8217;s a touch of &#8220;I ain&#8217;t no David Eddings fan!&#8221; coming out of the woodwork.</p>
<p>Frankly I think the sci-fi/fantasy divide is silly, but I&#8217;m not so hot on genres at all because it ghettoises good writers. It&#8217;s a tool for bookshops and the marketing departments of publishers, not a taxonomic guide to literature.</p>
<p>Really, all science fiction is speculative, as is fantasy, so if you want a better label it might be speculative fiction, which encompasses a range of different styles and sets of ideas.</p>
<p>I personally think there&#8217;s books worth reading and books that aren&#8217;t, and if people really need a &#8216;genre&#8217; to swim around within, and get &#8220;annoyed&#8221; that people muddy the waters between them, that&#8217;s a big pity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/04/book-lists/#comment-52697</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s with all the &quot;oohh, I hate it when people confuse science fiction and fantasy?&quot; I think it&#039;s a touch of &quot;I ain&#039;t no David Eddings fan!&quot; coming out of the woodwork.

Frankly I think the sci-fi/fantasy divide is silly, but I&#039;m not so hot on genres at all because it ghettoises good writers. It&#039;s a tool for bookshops and the marketing departments of publishers, not a taxonomic guide to literature.

Really, all science fiction is speculative, as is fantasy, so if you want a better label it might be speculative fiction, which encompasses a range of different styles and sets of ideas.

I personally think there&#039;s books worth reading and books that aren&#039;t, and if people really need a &#039;genre&#039; to swim around within, and get &quot;annoyed&quot; that people muddy the waters between them, that&#039;s a big pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with all the &#8220;oohh, I hate it when people confuse science fiction and fantasy?&#8221; I think it&#8217;s a touch of &#8220;I ain&#8217;t no David Eddings fan!&#8221; coming out of the woodwork.</p>
<p>Frankly I think the sci-fi/fantasy divide is silly, but I&#8217;m not so hot on genres at all because it ghettoises good writers. It&#8217;s a tool for bookshops and the marketing departments of publishers, not a taxonomic guide to literature.</p>
<p>Really, all science fiction is speculative, as is fantasy, so if you want a better label it might be speculative fiction, which encompasses a range of different styles and sets of ideas.</p>
<p>I personally think there&#8217;s books worth reading and books that aren&#8217;t, and if people really need a &#8216;genre&#8217; to swim around within, and get &#8220;annoyed&#8221; that people muddy the waters between them, that&#8217;s a big pity.</p>
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