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	<title>Comments on: Lancing the Labor boil</title>
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		<title>By: mortgage lenders</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-15240</link>
		<dc:creator>mortgage lenders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>You are invited to take a look at the pages about mortgage payment calculator construction loans</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11806</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11806</guid>
		<description>James,

I've received a communication from Lindsay Tanner denying that he has commented specifically on the role of Latham, Gillard and Crean in the terms you suggested.  He wrote to me:

"This claim is simply not correct.  I have been openly critical of Labor's approach to issues and policy, but not with any reference to particular individuals.  Our tendency to put marketing ahead of content, and adopt a largely reactive posture, is not a recent phenomenon, and is something for which we all must take responsibility.  I disagree with the essence of Labor's approach to its task from 1996 to 2004.  I'll be doing everything I can to change that orientation. 
  
"Please feel free to post this response on the website concerned."

 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve received a communication from Lindsay Tanner denying that he has commented specifically on the role of Latham, Gillard and Crean in the terms you suggested.  He wrote to me:</p>
<p>&#8220;This claim is simply not correct.  I have been openly critical of Labor&#8217;s approach to issues and policy, but not with any reference to particular individuals.  Our tendency to put marketing ahead of content, and adopt a largely reactive posture, is not a recent phenomenon, and is something for which we all must take responsibility.  I disagree with the essence of Labor&#8217;s approach to its task from 1996 to 2004.  I&#8217;ll be doing everything I can to change that orientation. </p>
<p>&#8220;Please feel free to post this response on the website concerned.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11759</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11759</guid>
		<description>To the degree there's a Bowie reference there, Tony, it's far too good for Latho...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the degree there&#8217;s a Bowie reference there, Tony, it&#8217;s far too good for Latho&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11747</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11747</guid>
		<description>... generally turn out to be space junk, burning up on re-entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; generally turn out to be space junk, burning up on re-entry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11732</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 05:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11732</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15778643-2,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Latham: I'm not Bi-Polar&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15778643-2,00.html" rel="nofollow">Latham: I&#8217;m not Bi-Polar</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11729</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11729</guid>
		<description>The stars that shine brightest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stars that shine brightest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11727</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11727</guid>
		<description>Well... he was different, you gotta give him that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; he was different, you gotta give him that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ros Marsh</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11725</link>
		<dc:creator>Ros Marsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11725</guid>
		<description>Then there was the endless relaying of his Mum‚Äôs advice about the deserving poor versus the bludgers across the street....for 14 months his "man on the edge of an axe murder massacre" roleplay held the nation spellbound, but you wouldn‚Äôt vote for the nutter....
Absolutely. And like anyone suffering from narcissim he now turns on everyone who was loyal to him as well as those who weren‚Äôt, still not new behaviour for him.
He hammered Labour in the last election. He will be remembered by Australians for story books for kids and handshakes. Many in the media did think he was the new ‚ÄûMessiah". Well they were wrong, and its time they got over it. He was a man overwhelmed by his personality disorder, still is and doesn‚Äôt deserve to be listened to or the air space he is getting. In the meantime those he betrayed (and abused, writing crap on work done for you) are left trying to rebuild. 
Didn‚Äôt even turn up for the book launch. What an ego.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there was the endless relaying of his Mum‚Äôs advice about the deserving poor versus the bludgers across the street&#8230;.for 14 months his &#8220;man on the edge of an axe murder massacre&#8221; roleplay held the nation spellbound, but you wouldn‚Äôt vote for the nutter&#8230;.<br />
Absolutely. And like anyone suffering from narcissim he now turns on everyone who was loyal to him as well as those who weren‚Äôt, still not new behaviour for him.<br />
He hammered Labour in the last election. He will be remembered by Australians for story books for kids and handshakes. Many in the media did think he was the new ‚ÄûMessiah&#8221;. Well they were wrong, and its time they got over it. He was a man overwhelmed by his personality disorder, still is and doesn‚Äôt deserve to be listened to or the air space he is getting. In the meantime those he betrayed (and abused, writing crap on work done for you) are left trying to rebuild.<br />
Didn‚Äôt even turn up for the book launch. What an ego.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11700</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11700</guid>
		<description>James, your comments about Crean's and Gillard's probable involvement with the Tasmanian forests policy are intriguing.  Given Crean's history of disagreement with the environmental movement over forestry issues when he was ACTU President, and Gillard's personal and sub-factional associations with pro-logging elements in the ALP, it seems somewhat incongruous that they would have become born-again deep greens on this issue.  Do you think there's a possibility that certain forces in the ALP decided that the best way to set back environmentalist influence on Labor policy would be for Federal Labor to adopt a strongly green position on a high-profile environmental issue, but do so in a mis-timed, half-baked and poorly sold way, with the resultant electoral consequences then being blamed on the policy itself rather than the timing and selling of it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, your comments about Crean&#8217;s and Gillard&#8217;s probable involvement with the Tasmanian forests policy are intriguing.  Given Crean&#8217;s history of disagreement with the environmental movement over forestry issues when he was ACTU President, and Gillard&#8217;s personal and sub-factional associations with pro-logging elements in the ALP, it seems somewhat incongruous that they would have become born-again deep greens on this issue.  Do you think there&#8217;s a possibility that certain forces in the ALP decided that the best way to set back environmentalist influence on Labor policy would be for Federal Labor to adopt a strongly green position on a high-profile environmental issue, but do so in a mis-timed, half-baked and poorly sold way, with the resultant electoral consequences then being blamed on the policy itself rather than the timing and selling of it?</p>
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		<title>By: liam hogan</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11677</link>
		<dc:creator>liam hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11677</guid>
		<description>Come on under with the rest of us, BS Fairman, and remember to sign the attendance books before you leave the meeting, if you want to be able to vote at the branch AGM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on under with the rest of us, BS Fairman, and remember to sign the attendance books before you leave the meeting, if you want to be able to vote at the branch AGM.</p>
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		<title>By: B.S. Fairman</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11676</link>
		<dc:creator>B.S. Fairman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11676</guid>
		<description>I feel like crawling under a rock.</description>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11669</link>
		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A damn good bleeding. It's what Labor needs and what better blade than a disgruntled and hard-done-by former leader? Bleed the whole front bench, I say. Then there'll be room for the new blood. Providing the machine lets it in. Almost makes me want to vote Green next time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A damn good bleeding. It&#8217;s what Labor needs and what better blade than a disgruntled and hard-done-by former leader? Bleed the whole front bench, I say. Then there&#8217;ll be room for the new blood. Providing the machine lets it in. Almost makes me want to vote Green next time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11660</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11660</guid>
		<description>Maybe you have to be a bit driven to seriously challenge for national leadership. Maybe that's why Beazley never quite convinces: no real fire in the belly. Latham had his share of personal faults, but so did Hawke (narcissism) and Keating (arrogance).  It didn't disqualifty them from national leadership - in fact, it probably helped in somemeasure. Maybe just to want to be a national leader means you've got some kind of character flaw (an over-active ego, at least?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you have to be a bit driven to seriously challenge for national leadership. Maybe that&#8217;s why Beazley never quite convinces: no real fire in the belly. Latham had his share of personal faults, but so did Hawke (narcissism) and Keating (arrogance).  It didn&#8217;t disqualifty them from national leadership - in fact, it probably helped in somemeasure. Maybe just to want to be a national leader means you&#8217;ve got some kind of character flaw (an over-active ego, at least?)</p>
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		<title>By: saint</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11659</link>
		<dc:creator>saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11659</guid>
		<description>I'm laughing as I read this. I'm just watching the 7.30 report and the charges of him being 'mad' are being voiced...bingo!!!

Oh bleh puke. I'm sorry folks but every time I hear the term "true believers" (from Bill Shorten this time) I want to throw up. I don't know if these party machine men realise the the rest of the world doesn't give a toss about their personal devotion to some ideology most of us know nothing about and which I doubt exists. 

More seriously. I don't think Latham needs to keep his mouth shut. We have a pile of ex leaders - Hewson, Keating, Fraser etc who pop up to give us the benefit of their wisdom. If they get an airing let them speak and we will judge what they have to say as well as their timing. And it seems that putting out the memoirs and publishing diaries seems to be the standard exit strategy in public life. I noticed Cosgrove said he might put out a "quick memoir" after he retires. Again, if they have the market, go for it. It is a free country.  Mind you I have never read any of these tomes nor do I have any interest. Does anyone know how popular biographies and autobiographies of Australian political figures are? Who is their market apart from party people and political junkies? And how forgettable are they? 

And weren't there about three books about Latham published while he was leader? Say what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m laughing as I read this. I&#8217;m just watching the 7.30 report and the charges of him being &#8216;mad&#8217; are being voiced&#8230;bingo!!!</p>
<p>Oh bleh puke. I&#8217;m sorry folks but every time I hear the term &#8220;true believers&#8221; (from Bill Shorten this time) I want to throw up. I don&#8217;t know if these party machine men realise the the rest of the world doesn&#8217;t give a toss about their personal devotion to some ideology most of us know nothing about and which I doubt exists. </p>
<p>More seriously. I don&#8217;t think Latham needs to keep his mouth shut. We have a pile of ex leaders - Hewson, Keating, Fraser etc who pop up to give us the benefit of their wisdom. If they get an airing let them speak and we will judge what they have to say as well as their timing. And it seems that putting out the memoirs and publishing diaries seems to be the standard exit strategy in public life. I noticed Cosgrove said he might put out a &#8220;quick memoir&#8221; after he retires. Again, if they have the market, go for it. It is a free country.  Mind you I have never read any of these tomes nor do I have any interest. Does anyone know how popular biographies and autobiographies of Australian political figures are? Who is their market apart from party people and political junkies? And how forgettable are they? </p>
<p>And weren&#8217;t there about three books about Latham published while he was leader? Say what?</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Honnor</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11658</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Honnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11658</guid>
		<description>"It was a wonderful change to have a Labor leader who actually, in his heart of hearts, really didn‚Äôt like the Coalition, or want to be just like them."

He didn't like anyone except for himself his Mum and his wife - who was working for a Coalition pollie when he met her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was a wonderful change to have a Labor leader who actually, in his heart of hearts, really didn‚Äôt like the Coalition, or want to be just like them.&#8221;</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t like anyone except for himself his Mum and his wife - who was working for a Coalition pollie when he met her.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11655</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11655</guid>
		<description>"[Bob] Carr, [Peter] Beattie and [Geoff] Gallop are A-grade arseholes".  Wild, Guy, to be sure, but pretty precisely targetted.   And "... a special place in hell..."?   This is a bit of a strange sentiment from a bunch of agnostic humanists.   Hell certainly exists, but I very much doubt it contains only Billy Hughes, Mal Colston etc.   For all the bitching about "machine men", the one cardinal sin is making adverse comment on the party!   "My party, right or wrong" is a ludicrous and morally repugnant stance.

Yes, Homer, Howard had Latham's number, alright, and that number was $6b (with apologies to Douglas Adams).   The real pity is he could have done it with a lot less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[Bob] Carr, [Peter] Beattie and [Geoff] Gallop are A-grade arseholes&#8221;.  Wild, Guy, to be sure, but pretty precisely targetted.   And &#8220;&#8230; a special place in hell&#8230;&#8221;?   This is a bit of a strange sentiment from a bunch of agnostic humanists.   Hell certainly exists, but I very much doubt it contains only Billy Hughes, Mal Colston etc.   For all the bitching about &#8220;machine men&#8221;, the one cardinal sin is making adverse comment on the party!   &#8220;My party, right or wrong&#8221; is a ludicrous and morally repugnant stance.</p>
<p>Yes, Homer, Howard had Latham&#8217;s number, alright, and that number was $6b (with apologies to Douglas Adams).   The real pity is he could have done it with a lot less.</p>
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		<title>By: liam hogan</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11652</link>
		<dc:creator>liam hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11652</guid>
		<description>Shame on me.
I loved every minute of the Latham experiment; it was a wonderful change to have a Labor leader who actually, in his heart of hearts, really didn't like the Coalition, or want to be just like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on me.<br />
I loved every minute of the Latham experiment; it was a wonderful change to have a Labor leader who actually, in his heart of hearts, really didn&#8217;t like the Coalition, or want to be just like them.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11650</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11650</guid>
		<description>As Lindsay Tanner tells any party member who'll listen, the forest/medicare gold policies are typical Latham/Crean/Gillard stunts.  The Creanites decide their policies on the basis of how well they go in focus groups, with no regard for their actual substance.  They then pull them out at the last minute like a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat.  Then they go and brief the papers about how Beazley "doesn't stand for anything".  What a load.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Lindsay Tanner tells any party member who&#8217;ll listen, the forest/medicare gold policies are typical Latham/Crean/Gillard stunts.  The Creanites decide their policies on the basis of how well they go in focus groups, with no regard for their actual substance.  They then pull them out at the last minute like a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat.  Then they go and brief the papers about how Beazley &#8220;doesn&#8217;t stand for anything&#8221;.  What a load.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Honnor</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11643</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Honnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11643</guid>
		<description>"Of course it was those same unprincipled careerist hacks that put Latho in parliament and in the leadership in the first place."

Latham was no mean total unprincipled careerist hack himself when it suited. Look at the factional deal he put together to save Crean's arse. And as for calling Beazley "conservative," who was it who spluttered all over talkback about the threat to the nation posed by an episode of Playschool? Not to mention fronting  Nicola Roxon to reassure a crowd of baying "Christians" in  the Great Hall of Parliament steamed about poofs getting married. Then there was the endless relaying  of his Mum's advice about the deserving poor versus the bludgers across the street....for 14 months his "man on the edge of an axe murder massacre" roleplay held the nation spellbound, but you wouldn't vote for the nutter....  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course it was those same unprincipled careerist hacks that put Latho in parliament and in the leadership in the first place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Latham was no mean total unprincipled careerist hack himself when it suited. Look at the factional deal he put together to save Crean&#8217;s arse. And as for calling Beazley &#8220;conservative,&#8221; who was it who spluttered all over talkback about the threat to the nation posed by an episode of Playschool? Not to mention fronting  Nicola Roxon to reassure a crowd of baying &#8220;Christians&#8221; in  the Great Hall of Parliament steamed about poofs getting married. Then there was the endless relaying  of his Mum&#8217;s advice about the deserving poor versus the bludgers across the street&#8230;.for 14 months his &#8220;man on the edge of an axe murder massacre&#8221; roleplay held the nation spellbound, but you wouldn&#8217;t vote for the nutter&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11639</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/06/29/lancing-the-labor-boil/#comment-11639</guid>
		<description>"One thing I do agree on the Forestry policy was badly handled although again it was quite consistent on an econoically rationalist basis."

The problem with the Forestry policy was that it was announced so close to the election that there was ample scope for the waters to be muddied by Howard's announcement in the company of a crowd of misled forestry workers, with no time for the merits of Labor's policy and its superiority to Howard's package to be effectively communicated.  The timing, of course, was doubtless influenced in part by the white-anting operation by the Tasmanian Government and the forestry unions.

A policy like this needed to be announced at least a month before the election (like Bob Hawke's policy on South-West Tassia in 1983).  Another example is Peter Beattie's announcement of Queensland Labor's excellent policy to protect the SE Queensland 18 months before the 2001 State election, although Beattie was also greatly aided by the fact that he was able to broker an agreement between the Queensland Timber Board and the peak conservation groups on the policy, and was also able to bring most of the party (with the exception of the AWU) along with him.  The AWU dealt itself out of the game by aligning with Pauline Hanson, Wilson Tuckey and the Queensland Nationals in opposing the policy.


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<p>The problem with the Forestry policy was that it was announced so close to the election that there was ample scope for the waters to be muddied by Howard&#8217;s announcement in the company of a crowd of misled forestry workers, with no time for the merits of Labor&#8217;s policy and its superiority to Howard&#8217;s package to be effectively communicated.  The timing, of course, was doubtless influenced in part by the white-anting operation by the Tasmanian Government and the forestry unions.</p>
<p>A policy like this needed to be announced at least a month before the election (like Bob Hawke&#8217;s policy on South-West Tassia in 1983).  Another example is Peter Beattie&#8217;s announcement of Queensland Labor&#8217;s excellent policy to protect the SE Queensland 18 months before the 2001 State election, although Beattie was also greatly aided by the fact that he was able to broker an agreement between the Queensland Timber Board and the peak conservation groups on the policy, and was also able to bring most of the party (with the exception of the AWU) along with him.  The AWU dealt itself out of the game by aligning with Pauline Hanson, Wilson Tuckey and the Queensland Nationals in opposing the policy.</p>
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