Comments on: 4 Corners looks at IR http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:55:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28811 Mark Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:06:15 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28811 And the answer very unconvincing too, Kim!<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -10 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: crap flooding, 3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> And the answer very unconvincing too, Kim!

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28757 Kim Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:29:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28757 Best question to Ratty: <blockquote>So isn't the intention of removing the no disadvantage test to allow people to be disadvantaged?</blockquote> Best question to Ratty:

So isn’t the intention of removing the no disadvantage test to allow people to be disadvantaged?

]]> By: Sach http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28587 Sach Tue, 27 Sep 2005 04:08:30 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28587 Ahhhh - an evidenced based approach to analysing potential policy - but this is too difficult for the Howard govt. to do! This should be the rapier that people use to drive through the federal govt. Ahhhh - an evidenced based approach to analysing potential policy - but this is too difficult for the Howard govt. to do! This should be the rapier that people use to drive through the federal govt.

]]> By: Kate http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28544 Kate Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:33:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28544 I found it fairly illuminating. It was good to see the conservative business types basically refute Howard's central premise.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -10 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> I found it fairly illuminating. It was good to see the conservative business types basically refute Howard’s central premise.

]]> By: Shaun Cronin http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28484 Shaun Cronin Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:13:13 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28484 I like this comment from Howard: <blockquote> The no disadvantage test was working in its complexity to prevent the making of workplace agreements.</blockquote> That damn no disadvantage test is actually preventing workers from getting a raw deal so it has to go. I'm glad that actual empirical evidence was discussed and didn't rely on Howard's utopian workplace fantasies. I like this comment from Howard:

The no disadvantage test was working in its complexity to prevent the making of workplace agreements.

That damn no disadvantage test is actually preventing workers from getting a raw deal so it has to go. I’m glad that actual empirical evidence was discussed and didn’t rely on Howard’s utopian workplace fantasies.

]]> By: Lefty Elitist http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28443 Lefty Elitist Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:01:18 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28443 Yes, now the dead hand of government is intervening in management/ employee realtionships to overturn EBAs recently agreed in several universities. So much for deregulation. The government just barges in as third party. Meanwhile, Nelson on VSU - with able assitance from DIMIA who accidentally locked up some of them, FFS - is wrecking our international student income like a silly drunken fratboy on a O-week rampage. Could this government be any less competent to manage higher education? Yes, now the dead hand of government is intervening in management/ employee realtionships to overturn EBAs recently agreed in several universities.

So much for deregulation. The government just barges in as third party.

Meanwhile, Nelson on VSU - with able assitance from DIMIA who accidentally locked up some of them, FFS - is wrecking our international student income like a silly drunken fratboy on a O-week rampage.

Could this government be any less competent to manage higher education?

]]> By: cs http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28441 cs Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:51:23 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28441 Yes, Wooden's conclusion that collective agreements produce higher productivity was perhaps the highlight of the show. All credit to him for being honest about his research, at the risk of being he's been entered onto the Rodent's hate list.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -10 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: crap flooding, 3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> Yes, Wooden’s conclusion that collective agreements produce higher productivity was perhaps the highlight of the show.

All credit to him for being honest about his research, at the risk of being he’s been entered onto the Rodent’s hate list.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28440 Mark Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:34:09 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28440 Yes, it was good to see David on the tellie. The most significant thing - for me - was that everyone admitted - even the conservative academic Wooden and Ridout - that there was no link between individual contracts and productivity, and in fact collective bargaining was more conducive to productivity. The government's changes are totally unjustified in any policy sense.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -10 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: crap flooding, 3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> Yes, it was good to see David on the tellie.

The most significant thing - for me - was that everyone admitted - even the conservative academic Wooden and Ridout - that there was no link between individual contracts and productivity, and in fact collective bargaining was more conducive to productivity.

The government’s changes are totally unjustified in any policy sense.

]]> By: cs http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28439 cs Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:15:20 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28439 I missed the start, and the whole thing had the bending over backards to be 'neutral' about it, but Peetz was very good, as was Buchanan (he's always very good), and others. Ridout plays a funny line, or is a bit dim, I can't tell.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -10 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: crap flooding, 3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> I missed the start, and the whole thing had the bending over backards to be ‘neutral’ about it, but Peetz was very good, as was Buchanan (he’s always very good), and others. Ridout plays a funny line, or is a bit dim, I can’t tell.

]]> By: Larado http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28435 Larado Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:53:59 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28435 Sorry,Mark.I just got a little bit excited,, Sorry,Mark.I just got a little bit excited,,

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28431 Mark Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:38:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28431 I have no idea what you're talking about, Larado.<!-- X-spaminator-strike: whitelist, -10 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: IP check --><!-- X-spaminator-strike: crap flooding, 3 --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: email check --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: author url --><!-- X-spaminator-passed: comment body --> I have no idea what you’re talking about, Larado.

]]> By: Larado http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28430 Larado Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:37:38 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28430 What else can a white man do.Death to China and Iran.Free Tibet. What else can a white man do.Death to China and Iran.Free Tibet.

]]> By: Larado http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28426 Larado Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:20:03 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28426 And of course persecute the coloured people. And of course persecute the coloured people.

]]> By: Larado http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28424 Larado Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:13:20 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/09/26/4-corners-looks-at-ir/#comment-28424 Lets hope that they put the ladies down. Lets hope that they put the ladies down.

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