Stoush on the nets!

Just a quick heads up to let you all know that comrade Liam has joined the collective blogging bandwagon and set up new digs at stoush.net, which will be duly added to the blogroll.

Looks good so far, but not enough pictures of berets…

Liam writes:

If we can’t compete with the motley crew of individuals, or the aforementioned star teams of collective blogging, it’s at least something we can do to encourage more stoushing and social argument.

I’d like to point out that the good comrade is in fact part of the team here at LP, and certainly one of its stars, and one who writes too rarely. I know, thesis and all that!

It does seem as if there’s a distinct and building perception (at least on the left of the blogosphere) that collective blogs are the way to go. Fitting, when you start to reflect on left values.

This may also be an appropriate time to ask again for suggestions for the blogroll. As my life’s become busier over recent months, the number of blogs I read regularly has shrunk radically (also a good reason for group blogs), and I’m sure there are lots of worthy links of which I’m unaware. Please email me at mbahnisch [at] gmail [dot] com or post in comments.

On other matters blog, I hope there will soon be announcements here on the future direction of the blog and LP: The T-shirt.

Update: New links added so far to Final Furlong, pocketpower and spiceblog.

Further Update: All suggested links duly blogrolled.

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40 Responses to “Stoush on the nets!”


  1. 1 HelenNo Gravatar

    Following all the “dead tree writers are better than bloggers, nerny nerny ner” lately from writers’ festival panellists and journos, could we please not start a “Group blogs are better than single blogs, nerny nerny ner” . Thanks all the same. Could we just go on doing what we do and concentrate on doing it as well as we can? Love LP and Crooked timber, but I also love many individual blogs.

  2. 2 AmandaNo Gravatar

    Word, Helen. You go girlfriend.

    No retreat, no surrender.

  3. 3 Homer PaxtonNo Gravatar

    Is Liam a green beret?

  4. 4 MarkNo Gravatar

    Helen - that wasn’t my intention, and so do I. I do think there’s value in the greater sustainability on a personal basis in participating in a group blog rather than running one yourself, and also a more concentrated message/audience, but I don’t want to disparage other choices.

  5. 5 AmandaNo Gravatar

    Political blogs are difficult to sustain by yourself because you have to deal with the shitfights (as opposed to stoushes) and actually put constant effort into presenting a coherent, defensible philosophyand worldview. Which people will then ridicule, attack, derail, misunderstand, insult etc etc.

    Sensible people have blogs where they can say whatever they like and no one cares.

  6. 6 AmandaNo Gravatar

    Also, the links for Final Furlong and spiceblog appear to be the same.

  7. 7 MarkNo Gravatar

    Thanks, Amanda - fixed now.

  8. 8 liam hoganNo Gravatar

    Homer: for you.
    Amanda, while I tend to agree with your calls about political blogs, and feel your pain about taking so much effort to present a coherent philosophy for ritual slaughter—dude, sensible people don’t have blogs at all!

  9. 9 Homer PaxtonNo Gravatar

    well done.

    now only tell the truth.
    no liam!!

  10. 10 AmandaNo Gravatar

    Liam, the power of your argument is undeniable.

  11. 11 Lefty ElitistNo Gravatar

    I dont know where else to put this, but I cant let it pass:

    So, how about how the Federal government has “sorted out” all those port “bottlenecks”?

    BAAAHAHHAAAAAAA!!!

    Did somebody say “gross incompetence?”
    Certainly, nobody said “resign”.

  12. 12 anthonyNo Gravatar

    I hope there’s no expectation of coherent defensible philosphies and world views now I’ve been linked.

  13. 13 Jason SoonNo Gravatar

    a thoughtful libertarian-leaning Australian blog that deserves a wider audience is http://oysterium.blogspot.com/

  14. 14 Jason SoonNo Gravatar

    and a bunch of my friends have also set up a great new law blog http://www.lawfont.com/

  15. 15 KateNo Gravatar

    anthony… you mean your oyster shucking and the ethics of contemporary warfare post doesn’t represent the pinnacle of your philosophy on politics, life, and everything? I’m disappointed.

  16. 16 liam hoganNo Gravatar

    Amanda, I’m glad you concur. My arguments, like those of James McConvill, will never ever ever be beaten. I think a banana might be in order soon, it’s morning tea time. I hope the human race destroys itself. My supervisor is cool.

    Modia Minotaur deserves a guernsey, I think.

  17. 17 Jason SoonNo Gravatar

    just admit it, beretboy. you miss the crazy bugger don’t you? this is like the 3rd mcconvill inspired joke you’ve made so far.

  18. 18 amandaNo Gravatar

    Poor Impulse Control

    Lefty politics, technology and general rudeness.

    (Disclosure: also my partner…)

  19. 19 anthonyNo Gravatar

    Kate
    Not until I can do fifty oysters in as many minutes.

  20. 20 MarkNo Gravatar

    I thought Andrew Peacock raised the issue of whether a souffle can be a coherent defensible political position? Or was it John Howard? Hard to remember - so many Liberal leadership stoushes ago.

  21. 21 MarkNo Gravatar

    Kate - is flickr easy to use?

  22. 22 MarkNo Gravatar

    Oops - wrong thread!

  23. 23 anthonyNo Gravatar

    Mark
    The credit used to go to PK for that comment, it’s his style, but I think Howard can that the credit for the comment and for a bit of self deprecation as it was directed at himself. Not reading food blogs though, he forgot that instead of rising they become harder, smaller, and less palatable version of their potential selves. Bastards to get out too.

    Flickr is easy, and a joy.

  24. 24 MarkNo Gravatar

    Thanks, Anthony, PJK of course!

    I agree that Howard should read food blogs. In fact, I’d like to see photos of the cuisine (I suspect largely crustacean) served at his infamously extravagant and taxpayer funded noshups at Kirribilli.

  25. 25 harryNo Gravatar

    “Word, Helen. You go girlfriend.
    No retreat, no surrender.”

    I don’t understand your position, Amanda. Surely there would be tens, nay dozens, of Country Music fans eager to blog… with.. you…. oh, that’s right…

  26. 26 FyodorNo Gravatar

    Actually, Harry, Amanda was very complimentary about your group blog this morning at For Battle! [although that particular post has strangely disappeared…]. She said it rocked.

    She was overly self-deprecating about her own blog, however. At least, that’s what I think she meant.

  27. 27 AmandaNo Gravatar

    Should the time ever come, there will be no doubt about what I mean.

  28. 28 armaniacNo Gravatar

    I’ve heard
    http://armagnacd.blogspot.com/

    is an excellent lefty blog guaranteed to light up even the murkiest of blogrolls!

  29. 29 C.L.No Gravatar

    I endorse the excellent Armaniac, even if he is often deludedly left of center and deplorably lacking in worshipful admiration for the Greatest Rock ‘n’ Roll Band In Human History.

    I dunno about this drift to blog collectives. Doesn’t it evoke globalisation’s crushing of diversity? Remember those quaint little blog shops of yore where the blogger behind the counter knew your name and didn’t worry when you were short of change?

    All bulldozered by the cynical Woolworthian force that is Larvatus Prodeo.

    Shame on you McMark.

  30. 30 RobertNo Gravatar

    A nice try, but unsuccessful, CL. Stoush.net is a new blog. So is Armaniac’s. Rob had one briefly, too. Kate’s has come out of hibernation. There are plenty of other examples. LP is not stifling new blogs, it’s encouraging them.

  31. 31 weathergirlNo Gravatar

    Hey, Amanda, I just clicked on your name and there’s a mistake in your url. I can’t get to your site because my browser “doesn’t recognise addresses starting with htpp”. Could you change it? Chiz. [Fixed. —RC.]

  32. 32 Evil PunditNo Gravatar

    As if we could trust the faceless CEO of the Redrag conglomerate.

    As soon as they break even, you’ll snap them up.

  33. 33 Shaun CroninNo Gravatar

    CL,

    There is a mistake in your link. I’ve corrected it for you.

  34. 34 MarkNo Gravatar

    [although that particular post has strangely disappeared…]

    Has James McConvill taken over as moderator of For Battle?

    Just wantin some cake…

  35. 35 MinotaurNo Gravatar

    I think we’re over-intellectualising. I’m not trying to put across a coherent political view - I actually keep others out of my blogspace because I’m a megalomaniac - I may let others sign up, but I’d insert a poison pill clause preventing them from actually posting. :D

  36. 36 weathergirlNo Gravatar

    Megalomaniacs don’t know they’re megalomaniacs. They don’t have that level of self-analysis. You must be simply arrogant. Don’t try to pathologise it, pet.

  37. 37 MarkNo Gravatar

    Jason - on your link, is there a single Australian group blog left (apart from LP) that doesn’t have contributions from Rafe?

  38. 38 MarkNo Gravatar

    All suggested links duly blogrolled.

  39. 39 armaniacNo Gravatar

    !Muy amable senor Bahnisch!

    Ditto C.L., though musically you’re struggling with a similar problem to Shiel, you’re a gentleman and a scholar.

  40. 40 armaniacNo Gravatar

    Hmm, comment completely disappeared. Anyway, won’t repeat lest it reappears from the depths, but basically I just said thanks Mark and CL.

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