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		<title>By: Anna Winter</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-3/#comment-732121</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 08:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve created a new &lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/15/daylight-saving-will-kill-puppies/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thread&lt;/a&gt; to allow the snark a new beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve created a new <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/15/daylight-saving-will-kill-puppies/" rel="nofollow">thread</a> to allow the snark a new beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: Reframing the thread</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-3/#comment-732120</link>
		<dc:creator>Reframing the thread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 08:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What exactly are we saving all this daylight for? A rainy day?</description>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-3/#comment-732019</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;MONEY DOESN”T GROW ON TREES!&quot;

Really? I thought that was farming&#039;s entire premise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MONEY DOESN”T GROW ON TREES!&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? I thought that was farming&#8217;s entire premise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-3/#comment-732018</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a No here. I like to have the extra hour of daylight in the morning, not so I can go jogging (who does that? weirdos...), but so I can sleep through it - I&#039;m a night person. Refer to 93 for more information. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a No here. I like to have the extra hour of daylight in the morning, not so I can go jogging (who does that? weirdos&#8230;), but so I can sleep through it &#8211; I&#8217;m a night person. Refer to 93 for more information. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Razor</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-3/#comment-731979</link>
		<dc:creator>Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>103 - curtains or even a sleeping mask, perhaps?

Vote YES tmorrow in WA, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>103 &#8211; curtains or even a sleeping mask, perhaps?</p>
<p>Vote YES tmorrow in WA, please.</p>
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		<title>By: I HATE DAYLIGHT SAVING</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-3/#comment-731822</link>
		<dc:creator>I HATE DAYLIGHT SAVING</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HATE DAYLIGHT SAVING! Daylight saving will not work in QLD. The state is way too big. You can&#039;t go to bed early because it is nine o&#039;clock at night and the sun is still out and burning your eyes. It disrupts your sleeping patterns. If they were going to have daylight saving at all (which they shouldn&#039;t) they should have it in winter so that people that go to work early in the morning can drive to work in the sun. If you have daylight saving in winter then people can go home and do something in the afternoon. This helps alot with farmers. If they are farmers that also work during the day they don&#039;t get enough time to do their farm work. people say they could just hire someone to help out, well I got a news flash for those people, MONEY DOESN&quot;T GROW ON TREES! If they had it in winter then they would be able to do something. NO ONE THINKS OF THE FARMERS!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HATE DAYLIGHT SAVING! Daylight saving will not work in QLD. The state is way too big. You can&#8217;t go to bed early because it is nine o&#8217;clock at night and the sun is still out and burning your eyes. It disrupts your sleeping patterns. If they were going to have daylight saving at all (which they shouldn&#8217;t) they should have it in winter so that people that go to work early in the morning can drive to work in the sun. If you have daylight saving in winter then people can go home and do something in the afternoon. This helps alot with farmers. If they are farmers that also work during the day they don&#8217;t get enough time to do their farm work. people say they could just hire someone to help out, well I got a news flash for those people, MONEY DOESN&#8221;T GROW ON TREES! If they had it in winter then they would be able to do something. NO ONE THINKS OF THE FARMERS!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Demographers R Us</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-3/#comment-685709</link>
		<dc:creator>Demographers R Us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is undoubtedly true, but remember that the 49% result is working off a very low base. And &#039;intelligence&#039; is a vexed parameter. In Victoria they ask questions about debentures, pastoral properties and 19th Century political history.

In Qld they ask about Big Pineapples, white shoe financiers, lychee futures and Sir Terrence. The State results are therefore hardly comparable.

In Tassie, the interviewer says &quot;IQ&quot; and the subject thinks they&#039;re being told the researcher likes them. Or they rattle off a haiku.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is undoubtedly true, but remember that the 49% result is working off a very low base. And &#8216;intelligence&#8217; is a vexed parameter. In Victoria they ask questions about debentures, pastoral properties and 19th Century political history.</p>
<p>In Qld they ask about Big Pineapples, white shoe financiers, lychee futures and Sir Terrence. The State results are therefore hardly comparable.</p>
<p>In Tassie, the interviewer says &#8220;IQ&#8221; and the subject thinks they&#8217;re being told the researcher likes them. Or they rattle off a haiku.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I reckon 49% of Victorians have below average intelligence. So there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I reckon 49% of Victorians have below average intelligence. So there!</p>
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		<title>By: Demographers R Us</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-2/#comment-684805</link>
		<dc:creator>Demographers R Us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, don&#039;t start that silly State-stereotypes nonsense please! 48% of Victorians believe that 65% of NSWelshmen would move to Qld in a trice, if it weren&#039;t for the fact that 17% of South Australians have at least one Tasmanian relative on their cousin&#039;s side.

And as many as 18% of Australian idiots do NOT live in Qld. 45% responded &quot;don&#039;t know&quot;.

70% of self-styled &lt;em&gt;metrosexual&lt;/em&gt; men think the term denotes their willingness to fornicate with underground rail tunnels. And 29% of them are willing to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, don&#8217;t start that silly State-stereotypes nonsense please! 48% of Victorians believe that 65% of NSWelshmen would move to Qld in a trice, if it weren&#8217;t for the fact that 17% of South Australians have at least one Tasmanian relative on their cousin&#8217;s side.</p>
<p>And as many as 18% of Australian idiots do NOT live in Qld. 45% responded &#8220;don&#8217;t know&#8221;.</p>
<p>70% of self-styled <em>metrosexual</em> men think the term denotes their willingness to fornicate with underground rail tunnels. And 29% of them are willing to try.</p>
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		<title>By: M S</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-2/#comment-684770</link>
		<dc:creator>M S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived in Qld all my life and can say with no doubt that most Queenslanders are retarded, myself included.</description>
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		<title>By: SD Gaslamp District All-Stars</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-2/#comment-591381</link>
		<dc:creator>SD Gaslamp District All-Stars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I
Could save daylight
In a bottle,
Then the one thing
That I&#039;d like to do,
Is to save every ray
Til the Hotel Del passes away,
Just to sun-tan with youuuu...

Good grief, even Jim Croce is my Leonard Cohen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I<br />
Could save daylight<br />
In a bottle,<br />
Then the one thing<br />
That I&#8217;d like to do,<br />
Is to save every ray<br />
Til the Hotel Del passes away,<br />
Just to sun-tan with youuuu&#8230;</p>
<p>Good grief, even Jim Croce is my Leonard Cohen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Leal</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-2/#comment-590941</link>
		<dc:creator>John Leal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things here. You write &quot;on the deck of a Queenslander&quot;. Is that a boat? Please, it&#039;s, on the &quot;verandah&quot; of a Queenslander :-) Secondly, daylight saving is not needed in Queensland, it&#039;s a waste of electricity. Research carried out in WA says electricity consumption increased there because air conditioners needed to be on for an extra hour in the evening because of higher temperatures. Case dismissed! Stop flogging a dead horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things here. You write &#8220;on the deck of a Queenslander&#8221;. Is that a boat? Please, it&#8217;s, on the &#8220;verandah&#8221; of a Queenslander <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Secondly, daylight saving is not needed in Queensland, it&#8217;s a waste of electricity. Research carried out in WA says electricity consumption increased there because air conditioners needed to be on for an extra hour in the evening because of higher temperatures. Case dismissed! Stop flogging a dead horse.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-2/#comment-582439</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.&lt;/i&gt;
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Yes. Harsh but face facts. She&#039;s right. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.</i><br />
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Yes. Harsh but face facts. She&#8217;s right. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-2/#comment-582437</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cassandra - Could you please clarify your position on DLS? I think your comment was a little ambiguous.
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I think Daylight Saving is terrible. It fades the cows and the curtains don&#039;t give milk anymore. And people stay up until 10 o&#039;clock and do rude things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cassandra &#8211; Could you please clarify your position on DLS? I think your comment was a little ambiguous.<br />
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I think Daylight Saving is terrible. It fades the cows and the curtains don&#8217;t give milk anymore. And people stay up until 10 o&#8217;clock and do rude things.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2005/11/03/against-daylight-saving/comment-page-2/#comment-582392</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.&quot;

But Cassandra&#039;s use of capital letters indicates that she is quite clear about this, FDB ;)

Agree with Cassandra about daylight saving but not about Queensland (a great place to live blah blah blah).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.&#8221;</p>
<p>But Cassandra&#8217;s use of capital letters indicates that she is quite clear about this, FDB <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Agree with Cassandra about daylight saving but not about Queensland (a great place to live blah blah blah).</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, ye olde argument again.


WA&#039;s having the third and last year of a DS trial at the moment. (It&#039;s three years as punishment for voting &#039;no&#039; after one-year trials the first three times.) First two years, I hated it - Perth late afternoons are all about the blazing hot sun and NE&#039;ly winds blowing off the desert, so putting the clocks forward means we have to wait an hour for the W&#039;ly sea breeze and sunset - over 40C after 8pm isn&#039;t cool. I don&#039;t understand the argument that says we&#039;re &#039;being dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century&#039; (yes, I&#039;ve heard that exact phrase more than once)... in most parts of Perth, on Mon-Wed or Fri you can stand in the empty car park of a suburban shopping centre that shut two hours before sunset, and watch the heat radiate off the bitumen. 21st century my arse. What if I wanted to have fun after dark? On Sunday nights even the pub shuts less than two hours after sunset (10pm).


Last year, though, I was in Melbourne for a month in January. It actually works there - the weather&#039;s not so reliably hot, so being outside at 8pm is actually possible. Folk over there (and here) need to realise Perth is not Melbourne / Sydney. If Brisbane&#039;s humid in the summer, I guess the same thing works there.


I&#039;m not sure it&#039;ll even go to a fourth referendum this time... the Nationals don&#039;t like it, and they&#039;ve got the balance of power in parliament. Matt Birney was one of the main champions of DS - he was the member for Kalgoorlie, in the east of the state where it makes a bit more sense, but he&#039;s not around any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, ye olde argument again.</p>
<p>WA&#8217;s having the third and last year of a DS trial at the moment. (It&#8217;s three years as punishment for voting &#8216;no&#8217; after one-year trials the first three times.) First two years, I hated it &#8211; Perth late afternoons are all about the blazing hot sun and NE&#8217;ly winds blowing off the desert, so putting the clocks forward means we have to wait an hour for the W&#8217;ly sea breeze and sunset &#8211; over 40C after 8pm isn&#8217;t cool. I don&#8217;t understand the argument that says we&#8217;re &#8216;being dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century&#8217; (yes, I&#8217;ve heard that exact phrase more than once)&#8230; in most parts of Perth, on Mon-Wed or Fri you can stand in the empty car park of a suburban shopping centre that shut two hours before sunset, and watch the heat radiate off the bitumen. 21st century my arse. What if I wanted to have fun after dark? On Sunday nights even the pub shuts less than two hours after sunset (10pm).</p>
<p>Last year, though, I was in Melbourne for a month in January. It actually works there &#8211; the weather&#8217;s not so reliably hot, so being outside at 8pm is actually possible. Folk over there (and here) need to realise Perth is not Melbourne / Sydney. If Brisbane&#8217;s humid in the summer, I guess the same thing works there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;ll even go to a fourth referendum this time&#8230; the Nationals don&#8217;t like it, and they&#8217;ve got the balance of power in parliament. Matt Birney was one of the main champions of DS &#8211; he was the member for Kalgoorlie, in the east of the state where it makes a bit more sense, but he&#8217;s not around any more.</p>
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		<title>By: frankie</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its too hot for daylight saving in Queensland.  Years ago we had it and it was cool in the morning, but the school kids were coming home in the boiling heat.  Maybe it should go back two hours!!   We don&#039;t have the daylight here to play with.  Down South they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its too hot for daylight saving in Queensland.  Years ago we had it and it was cool in the morning, but the school kids were coming home in the boiling heat.  Maybe it should go back two hours!!   We don&#8217;t have the daylight here to play with.  Down South they do.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;LEAVE QLD ALONE AND LEAVE IT AS IT IS THANKS. IT’S NOTHING BUT A WASTE OF TIME AND IT’S QUITE POINTLESS!!&quot;

Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;LEAVE QLD ALONE AND LEAVE IT AS IT IS THANKS. IT’S NOTHING BUT A WASTE OF TIME AND IT’S QUITE POINTLESS!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.</p>
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		<title>By: cassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM COMPLETELY AGAINST DAYLIGHT SAVINGS BEING BROUGHT INTO QLD!!  LEAVE QLD ALONE AND LEAVE IT AS IT IS THANKS.  IT&#039;S NOTHING BUT A WASTE OF TIME AND IT&#039;S QUITE POINTLESS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM COMPLETELY AGAINST DAYLIGHT SAVINGS BEING BROUGHT INTO QLD!!  LEAVE QLD ALONE AND LEAVE IT AS IT IS THANKS.  IT&#8217;S NOTHING BUT A WASTE OF TIME AND IT&#8217;S QUITE POINTLESS!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to make that same point, Martin

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to make that same point, Martin<br />
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