Comments on: Against Daylight Saving

By: SD Gaslamp District All-Stars

SD Gaslamp District All-Stars — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:22:34 +0000

If I
Could save daylight
In a bottle,
Then the one thing
That I’d like to do,
Is to save every ray
Til the Hotel Del passes away,
Just to sun-tan with youuuu…

Good grief, even Jim Croce is my Leonard Cohen…

By: John Leal

John Leal — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:21:48 +0000

Two things here. You write “on the deck of a Queenslander”. Is that a boat? Please, it’s, on the “verandah” of a Queenslander Secondly, daylight saving is not needed in Queensland, it’s a waste of electricity. Research carried out in WA says electricity consumption increased there because air conditioners needed to be on for an extra hour in the evening because of higher temperatures. Case dismissed! Stop flogging a dead horse.

By: Adrien

Adrien — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:29:00 +0000

Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.
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Yes. Harsh but face facts. She’s right.

By: Adrien

Adrien — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:25:24 +0000

Cassandra - Could you please clarify your position on DLS? I think your comment was a little ambiguous.
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I think Daylight Saving is terrible. It fades the cows and the curtains don’t give milk anymore. And people stay up until 10 o’clock and do rude things.

By: Darlene

Darlene — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:31:32 +0000

“Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.”

But Cassandra’s use of capital letters indicates that she is quite clear about this, FDB
Agree with Cassandra about daylight saving but not about Queensland (a great place to live blah blah blah).

By: Bird of paradox

Bird of paradox — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:26:09 +0000

Ahh, ye olde argument again.

WA’s having the third and last year of a DS trial at the moment. (It’s three years as punishment for voting ‘no’ after one-year trials the first three times.) First two years, I hated it - Perth late afternoons are all about the blazing hot sun and NE’ly winds blowing off the desert, so putting the clocks forward means we have to wait an hour for the W’ly sea breeze and sunset - over 40C after 8pm isn’t cool. I don’t understand the argument that says we’re ‘being dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century’ (yes, I’ve heard that exact phrase more than once)… in most parts of Perth, on Mon-Wed or Fri you can stand in the empty car park of a suburban shopping centre that shut two hours before sunset, and watch the heat radiate off the bitumen. 21st century my arse. What if I wanted to have fun after dark? On Sunday nights even the pub shuts less than two hours after sunset (10pm).

Last year, though, I was in Melbourne for a month in January. It actually works there - the weather’s not so reliably hot, so being outside at 8pm is actually possible. Folk over there (and here) need to realise Perth is not Melbourne / Sydney. If Brisbane’s humid in the summer, I guess the same thing works there.

I’m not sure it’ll even go to a fourth referendum this time… the Nationals don’t like it, and they’ve got the balance of power in parliament. Matt Birney was one of the main champions of DS - he was the member for Kalgoorlie, in the east of the state where it makes a bit more sense, but he’s not around any more.

By: frankie

frankie — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:48:06 +0000

Its too hot for daylight saving in Queensland. Years ago we had it and it was cool in the morning, but the school kids were coming home in the boiling heat. Maybe it should go back two hours!! We don’t have the daylight here to play with. Down South they do.

By: FDB

FDB — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:47:00 +0000

“LEAVE QLD ALONE AND LEAVE IT AS IT IS THANKS. IT’S NOTHING BUT A WASTE OF TIME AND IT’S QUITE POINTLESS!!”

Bit unkind to Queensland there Cassandra.

By: cassandra

cassandra — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:41:52 +0000

I AM COMPLETELY AGAINST DAYLIGHT SAVINGS BEING BROUGHT INTO QLD!! LEAVE QLD ALONE AND LEAVE IT AS IT IS THANKS. IT’S NOTHING BUT A WASTE OF TIME AND IT’S QUITE POINTLESS!!

By: Lefty E

Lefty E — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:48:31 +0000

I was about to make that same point, Martin

By: Martin B

Martin B — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:34:03 +0000

“Noon�?,�?midday�?&�?midnight�? are when the sun is at it’s highest or loest, & 1/2 way betwen sunset&sunrise-NOT 12 o’clock D.S.T.-(1 o’clock)!

Interestingly (or not) for about 1/3 of the DST period in Melbourne, solar noon is closer to 1300 AEST than it is to 1200 AEST, what with the longitude and the equation of time. In any case since the time of solar noon changes from day to day relative to any regular clock, it makes it impractical to fix the times of this event.

By: Russell

Russell — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:27:39 +0000

Ned,

Go to http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au
and choose Hansard –> Search
Type in to the search box: daylight saving bill and second reading
(you have to put the ‘and’ in)
From the drop-down box for Member, choose: All Members
Hit Search

When the results list comes up, scroll down to the bottom and start with the Matt Birney speech (pro) and then for the con argument, choose some country MPs like Barry House or Murray Criddle

By: Ned

Ned — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:50:53 +0000

can i please have some info, i’m doing a debate at school but could get much info in the internet i’m against DS.

By: Doug Tilley

Doug Tilley — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:21:40 +0000

Back into Qld again and seems not a thing has changed except the Premier, All the grubby little D/S worms are emerging from thier holes and starting to scream at the Goverments again about D/S, Now we have some clown on the Gold Coast that wants to go it alone in his area, all that does is shift the problem “A little Further North” ….thanks to Graeme Conners for that little pun.
I see ex Premier Beattie mentioned Skin Cancer , I don’t really think that anything will change that , People will still have the car A/C on D/S or not , this idea of Daylight Saving is one great myth from the war years, it saves nothing but the pride of the advocate, the determined pain in the butt public nuisance,

By: Bryan Arden

Bryan Arden — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:25:09 +0000

I recently moved from western NSW to Brisbane. I was sick of the cold weather and having to be up an hour early, during daylight robbery and then the dragged out afternoons. The third biggest attraction to this state, after the climate and the people is the fact that we don’t have daylight robbery and I for one will allways be opposed to it. I sincerly hope that Queensland never follows the southern states. Incidently I not the only one from the south who thinks like me, only that they put up with it as they were NEVER given a CHOICE. A bunch of yuppies decided that it would be nice to sleep later and party earlier and the rest of us have had to suffer for it ever since. Why can’t bussiness in Qld ajust there opening and shutting times instead of changing the clocks. How any body can say that dlst is of any benifit to anyone is beyond me.

By: ken brown

ken brown — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:05:48 +0000

I live in melb.and wish we did’t have to have dst.. I still don’t know whats wrong with seting an alarm clock 1AH. or so early in the summer. Allso lots of media & others want 1/2 dst! They refuse to except the fact that as well as making sunrise&sunset 1AH. later time, daylight saving time allso moves “noon”,”midday”&”midnight” from 12 o’clock to 1 o’clock. “Noon”,”midday”&”midnight” are when the sun is at it’s highest or loest, & 1/2 way betwen sunset&sunrise-NOT 12 o’clock D.S.T.-(1 o’clock)! Lots of media etc. still say “12 noon”,”12 midday”&”12 midnight”d.s.t.&”arfter noon”befor noon,etc.-this is false,&most anoying, & it’s rampent! To say it’s “noon”,”midday”or”midnight”at 12 o’clock d.s.t. is like saying it’s “dawn”,”sunrise”or”sunset”1 AH. befor the sun comes up or goes down! D.S.T. moves “midday”/”midnight” like “sunrise”/”sunset”! They can change time. but can’t change the sun and “noon”,”midday”&”midnight” relates to the sun not the clock! They can’t have it both ways! yours ken.

By: Enemy Combatant

Enemy Combatant — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 06:00:05 +0000

Wonder how the descendants of the Gubi Gubi people feel about daylight saving? The former custodians of an area of south-east Queensland that has endured a rolling chorus line of white shoes tap dancing,indeed, Balanda boots stomping opon their sacred ground, could contribute a great deal to this debate.

After 40,000 years in the vicinity, local knowledge could come in quite handy in “achieving optimal outcomes going forward on this key government initiative”.

By: Author, Light of Day

Author, Light of Day — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:43:12 +0000

JJ:
I am the author of the anti-daylight saving website that you linked to in your post of 14 December. I was intrigued to note your claim that my website ‘admits that Australia can save up to 800000 tonnes of carbon dioxide omissions per year’. I’m fascinated to know where my website either makes this claim or gives any figures from which this outcome could be calculated.

On the contrary, my website adamantly maintains that the pitiful (but overblown) amount of research that exists on the relationship between DLS and energy saving is hampered by too many limitations to be of any real value. These include:
• dubious methodology that relies far too much on arbitrary mathematical calculations rather than facts
• too much reliance on an urban-centric ‘progress for progress sake’ agenda, leading to biased interpretations
• temperate-zone settings that are of little to no relevance to Australia’s tropical/sub-tropical conditions and seasonal daylight patterns
• infinitesimal outcomes (often amounting to annual energy ’savings’ of less than one per cent of one per cent!!) that are too easily compromised by life’s many variables
• an almost total lack of DLS research within Australia, causing us to rely almost exclusively on overseas data.

This hypothetical ‘800,000-tonne’ carbon dioxide saving would be far better (and less hypocritically) achieved if Australia were to sign the Kyoto Agreement and lift its game on renewable-energy research and development.

By: Richard

Richard — Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:17:58 +0000

Yes Yes Yes to DLS how about doubble DLS like we had in the UK 1939 - 1945 then we would get more done around the house and garden, but if you are lazy you can still watch that crap on TV,
and if you go on holiday do you not change your clocks to suit them?

By: paul;

paul; — Sun, 17 Dec 2006 06:48:09 +0000

TO JJ

it is not woth trying to tell the people why we dont want dls because they are just top selfish to realize the difficulty it causes.

as far as being a hilbilly , well mate thats your opinion and considering that up to 80 %of people out side of the south east corner feel the same as me i guess because we are not living in the se we are all hillbillys
just look at the polls on the abc website and look at the statistics from the 1992 referendum .
from the latest polls things havent changed much .
as far as the sun coming up early then all business have to do that want to be in line with sydney is have a number of staff on flexi time , or is that to modern for you .
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from what i see about the polls anuway only about 60 %of the city people want it

i just dont understand why city people are so selfish as to disrupt the lioves of the rest of the state so they have more time to walk the dog

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thats just the sort of comment that we have come to expect of city people,