Comments on: 20/20 vision http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:26:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: bring Back EP & Hamlet http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46339 bring Back EP & Hamlet Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:10:06 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46339 alas poor Warney, I knew him punter a spinner of infinite jest and most excellent zooter! alas poor Warney,
I knew him punter a spinner of infinite jest and most excellent zooter!

]]> By: Bernice Balconey http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46333 Bernice Balconey Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:35:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46333 Could play amateur pyschoanalyst for days about the Aust penchant for benevolent & amused tolerance of stupid behaviour such as Warne's. See also Jenine Casey as today's Heckler in the SMH. But imagine what may have been, had Warne walked onto playing fields fully fit, fully rested, and fully focused. & I'd disagree with DP the non-departed. Shakespeare's fools have always an unwelcome self-knowledge of their own foolery, this is where the pathos lies, & where the humanity of his characters displays itself. Warne has never demonstrated any self-awareness at all as far as i can see, even to the hysterics of his appealing. & nor does his control of his bowling need to be cerebral - an individual with a set of highly refined physical skills can rely on a state of cognitive unconscious to achieve a far more successful outcome than when done consciously - see The Humane Interface: New Directions for Designing Interactive Systems by Jef Raskin. Could play amateur pyschoanalyst for days about the Aust penchant for benevolent & amused tolerance of stupid behaviour such as Warne’s. See also Jenine Casey as today’s Heckler in the SMH. But imagine what may have been, had Warne walked onto playing fields fully fit, fully rested, and fully focused.

& I’d disagree with DP the non-departed. Shakespeare’s fools have always an unwelcome self-knowledge of their own foolery, this is where the pathos lies, & where the humanity of his characters displays itself. Warne has never demonstrated any self-awareness at all as far as i can see, even to the hysterics of his appealing. & nor does his control of his bowling need to be cerebral - an individual with a set of highly refined physical skills can rely on a state of cognitive unconscious to achieve a far more successful outcome than when done consciously - see The Humane Interface: New Directions for Designing Interactive Systems by Jef Raskin.

]]> By: Bring Back EP & Manners http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46321 Bring Back EP & Manners Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:57:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46321 Warney like Clinton had form and thought he was bullet proof. no-one has ever told apparently there are standards and he is below them. Mum and Dad must take some responsibility I suspect. He is the best spinner of all time but he is still a little boy! Warney like Clinton had form and thought he was bullet proof.

no-one has ever told apparently there are standards and he is below them.
Mum and Dad must take some responsibility I suspect.

He is the best spinner of all time but he is still a little boy!

]]> By: Georg http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46315 Georg Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:27:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46315 Thanks Mark and Shaun. I was mentally composing it too when I was watching it. I was so appalled by the whole thing I just had to write something about it. Thanks Mark and Shaun. I was mentally composing it too when I was watching it. I was so appalled by the whole thing I just had to write something about it.

]]> By: Pavlov's Cat http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46296 Pavlov's Cat Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:35:13 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46296 Talking about Shakespeare is wanking? Oh well, I guess wanking is in the eye of the beholder. Sorry, I would have liked to have put that another way. Talking about Shakespeare is wanking?

Oh well, I guess wanking is in the eye of the beholder. Sorry, I would have liked to have put that another way.

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46293 Kim Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:27:07 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46293 Dorothy's a lesbian last time I looked. Dorothy’s a lesbian last time I looked.

]]> By: melloncramps http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46290 melloncramps Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:13:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46290 "He doesn't strike me as an intelligent man - he strikes me as a f---wit, actually - and you see his bowling is absolutely cerebral: every ball is different. It's almost as if there's witchcraft in the ball." "Warnie would be perfect as a Shakespearean fool. I'd put my meagre bank balance on Warnie never having read a line of Shakespeare in his life but he would be perfect: Shakespeare would love him to bits." -Dorothy Porter Looks like Dorothy's been caught wanking. “He doesn’t strike me as an intelligent man - he strikes me as a f—wit, actually - and you see his bowling is absolutely cerebral: every ball is different. It’s almost as if there’s witchcraft in the ball.”

“Warnie would be perfect as a Shakespearean fool. I’d put my meagre bank balance on Warnie never having read a line of Shakespeare in his life but he would be perfect: Shakespeare would love him to bits.” -Dorothy Porter

Looks like Dorothy’s been caught wanking.

]]> By: Shaun Cronin http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46277 Shaun Cronin Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:04:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46277 And New Zealand not only did 'authorities last month introduced strict crowd security measures including switching to light beer and a ban on drink containers' but <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/01/10/1136851191800.html?from=top5" rel="nofollow">women kissing as well</a>. And New Zealand not only did ‘authorities last month introduced strict crowd security measures including switching to light beer and a ban on drink containers’ but women kissing as well.

]]> By: Shaun Cronin http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46273 Shaun Cronin Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:44:02 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46273 I was mentally composing something on the 20/20 game for LP but your post Georg is better than what I was thinking. The 20/20 game suffered from the same problem as one-dayers. When the result is clearly know (ie the chasing team collapses and the run rate is impossible) the game is boring. Test matches can end up a boring draws but today, and think the Aussies deserve credit here, thrilling test matches (and series) are becoming quite common. Even though we lost the Ashes it was thrilling and the South African tests closer than the final result. I was mentally composing something on the 20/20 game for LP but your post Georg is better than what I was thinking.

The 20/20 game suffered from the same problem as one-dayers. When the result is clearly know (ie the chasing team collapses and the run rate is impossible) the game is boring. Test matches can end up a boring draws but today, and think the Aussies deserve credit here, thrilling test matches (and series) are becoming quite common. Even though we lost the Ashes it was thrilling and the South African tests closer than the final result.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46260 Mark Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:19:44 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46260 Btw - nice post, Georg! Btw - nice post, Georg!

]]> By: phil http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46257 phil Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:53:19 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46257 Well I hate to get on my usual hobbyhorse of the creeping Americanisation of our language (but try to stop me!), but the single thing about the whole 'spectacle' that really irked me was a reference by Tony Grieg (I think) to the batting team in the 'dugout'. God help us... Well I hate to get on my usual hobbyhorse of the creeping Americanisation of our language (but try to stop me!), but the single thing about the whole ’spectacle’ that really irked me was a reference by Tony Grieg (I think) to the batting team in the ‘dugout’. God help us…

]]> By: cs http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46250 cs Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:33:15 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46250 I've never sent a text message in my life, but would agree that I thought the Great Man very foolish to do so. Beyond foolishness, which I would suspect everyone to be guilty of from time to time, I wouldn't condone anyone sexually harrassing anyone (and I wouldn't know if he has - is this actually proved, as distinct from being alleged, esp by prurient headline-seeking tabloids?). I’ve never sent a text message in my life, but would agree that I thought the Great Man very foolish to do so. Beyond foolishness, which I would suspect everyone to be guilty of from time to time, I wouldn’t condone anyone sexually harrassing anyone (and I wouldn’t know if he has - is this actually proved, as distinct from being alleged, esp by prurient headline-seeking tabloids?).

]]> By: Bernice Balconey http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46240 Bernice Balconey Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:25:43 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46240 Its not the whom he bonks (within certain limits) but the HOW that bothers me. Sending women unsolicited text messages requesting uninvited sex is still sexual harassment. Its not the whom he bonks (within certain limits) but the HOW that bothers me.
Sending women unsolicited text messages requesting uninvited sex is still sexual harassment.

]]> By: cs http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46231 cs Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:02:08 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46231 Sorry Bernice, I couldn't care less who Warney is bonking, and in any event, and unlike the Tut-Tut British-tabloid brigade, don't presume to know the real story of his sex life (or anyone else's, for that matter). As I couldn't care less, I must also admit that I don't tend to read those kinds of stories, so I can hardly debate the detail. The Tut-Tutters are, however, always there, whether they be tut-tutting away about Paul Keating's colourful language or Warney's sex life or whatever Gerard Henderson decides to tut-tut about every other week. Yes, I tend to like irreverent larrikins, and I especially dig seeing them confound the presumptuous private morality police with sheer merit. Sorry Bernice, I couldn’t care less who Warney is bonking, and in any event, and unlike the Tut-Tut British-tabloid brigade, don’t presume to know the real story of his sex life (or anyone else’s, for that matter). As I couldn’t care less, I must also admit that I don’t tend to read those kinds of stories, so I can hardly debate the detail. The Tut-Tutters are, however, always there, whether they be tut-tutting away about Paul Keating’s colourful language or Warney’s sex life or whatever Gerard Henderson decides to tut-tut about every other week. Yes, I tend to like irreverent larrikins, and I especially dig seeing them confound the presumptuous private morality police with sheer merit.

]]> By: Bernice Balconey http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46222 Bernice Balconey Tue, 10 Jan 2006 05:54:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46222 "I also happen to dig the way his genius with the cricket ball has shut-up the Tut-Tut brigade that patrols his private life. Go Warney!" Really? still finishing off that second case of VB then CS? Its a strange ability possessed by most Australians to support a BLOKE, "yeah sure he's a bit of a boffhead, but jeez can he bowl........" Repeat after me - he is a foolish , sexually maraudering, manipulative, egocentric dickhead. & i do like the kiddies to admire people with something like a moral compass spinning in their head. Or one who knows a decent martini when they've had 7 or 8 “I also happen to dig the way his genius with the cricket ball has shut-up the Tut-Tut brigade that patrols his private life. Go Warney!” Really? still finishing off that second case of VB then CS?

Its a strange ability possessed by most Australians to support a BLOKE, “yeah sure he’s a bit of a boffhead, but jeez can he bowl……..”

Repeat after me - he is a foolish , sexually maraudering, manipulative, egocentric dickhead. & i do like the kiddies to admire people with something like a moral compass spinning in their head. Or one who knows a decent martini when they’ve had 7 or 8

]]> By: cs http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46187 cs Tue, 10 Jan 2006 04:17:12 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46187 Yes, I also found Dorothy right on the money. There is nothing in sport I find more absorbing more than watching Warney bowl (except perhaps watching Bernie Larkham dance on the rugby field). Contra to most everyone else, I also happen to dig the way his genius with the cricket ball has shut-up the Tut-Tut brigade that patrols his private life. Go Warney! Yes, I also found Dorothy right on the money. There is nothing in sport I find more absorbing more than watching Warney bowl (except perhaps watching Bernie Larkham dance on the rugby field). Contra to most everyone else, I also happen to dig the way his genius with the cricket ball has shut-up the Tut-Tut brigade that patrols his private life. Go Warney!

]]> By: Georg http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46164 Georg Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:20:24 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46164 Dorothy Parker and Warney. Yes, what a thought. The article was great. I want to print it out and keep it so I can give it to everyone who questions my devotion to the Shane Warne of the field, as opposed to the Shane Warne of the mobile phone... Dorothy Parker and Warney. Yes, what a thought.

The article was great. I want to print it out and keep it so I can give it to everyone who questions my devotion to the Shane Warne of the field, as opposed to the Shane Warne of the mobile phone…

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46159 Mark Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:14:52 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46159 I read Dorothy Parker as well first off (though unlike Homer I know who Dorothy Porter is) and was wondering what an encounter between her and Warney would have been like! I read Dorothy Parker as well first off (though unlike Homer I know who Dorothy Porter is) and was wondering what an encounter between her and Warney would have been like!

]]> By: Zoe http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46158 Zoe Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:07:47 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46158 No excuses needed for cricket posting. And wasn't that Dorothy Porter article a cracker? I didn't watch the 20/20. I try to avoid junk food. No excuses needed for cricket posting. And wasn’t that Dorothy Porter article a cracker?

I didn’t watch the 20/20. I try to avoid junk food.

]]> By: Bernice Balconey http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46157 Bernice Balconey Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:57:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/01/10/2020-vision/#comment-46157 Which i misread as Dorothy Parker - communcaitions from the very departed. Oh it was awful - how the hell are you meant to get through a case of VB? perhaps with some SMS breaks. & the grey? cricket mourning dress for Kessa. No the whole thing is a travesty best assigned to winter solstice celebrations at Mawson (but me mobile dont work....) Which i misread as Dorothy Parker - communcaitions from the very departed.
Oh it was awful - how the hell are you meant to get through a case of VB? perhaps with some SMS breaks. & the grey? cricket mourning dress for Kessa.
No the whole thing is a travesty best assigned to winter solstice celebrations at Mawson (but me mobile dont work….)

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