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Vlado is progressively announcing the winners of the Australian Blog Awards tonight.
The winner of the Best Australian Collaborative Blog is … LP!.
It’s a pity Catallaxy and Troppo weren’t nominated, because I’m sure that their general excellence would have given us a run for our money, but I’m chuffed anyway by the support shown by blog readers for our site.
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Beaten, Mark, and by a joke candidate!
The fact that Catallaxy and Troppo weren’t nominated makes the whole exercise pretty suspect. In fact looking at the nominations it wasn’t much of a field anyway. I wouldn’t be thumping my chest too loudly at this doubtful achievement (sic) if I were you. It’s probably the only one that any voters had heard of.
Yet you still post here, whyisitso. Doesn’t say much for you now does it?
It’s just a bit of fun, guys.
Best New Blog, Best Humorous Blog - this Samuel Gordon-Stewart bloke is obviously a talent to watch. As for me, I’m resisting the desire to resort to wailing and gnashing of teeth. The wailing is unbecoming and the gnashing might bring on more dentistry. I am not a dentistry victim I am a dentistry survivor.
Bugger me, I won something. And I kicked Liam’s arse in the process.
Yeah, that was a pretty impressive flogging.
Congratulations!
It’s quite hard to design a model everyone agrees with. I do like the fact that Vlado’s awards aren’t commercially sponsored, or judged by “expert panels” or US based such that Tim Blair always wins, because he has a big US readership and the sheer weight of the US blogosphere and its readership swamps blogs with mainly Australian readerships.
whyisitso, you could have nominated Troppo and Catallaxy.
I’m sure that if Blair had won something (he pulled himself out of the race by declining the nomination), righties would be lauding it as a just reward for his fame and excellence.
It’s best not to take a partisan approach to these things - we can recognise and debate the limitations of these awards, but to write them off entirely out of spite is well, spiteful and silly.
I note that we also won Best Queensland Blog.
Oh, and whysitso - hello? Spin Starts Here is a long established Oz blog with many fans, Ausculture is Jess fabulousness and probably has a larger readership than any political blog, Stoush.net is a great site which is now graced with the presence of EP and Fyodor… etc.
Congrats Mark, and the LP collective…
This is a good thing - just what I needed. A sense of which blogs are considered good by many. I really cant arsed plodding through them speculatively.
Might peek at Stoush.net right away!
Good idea Lefty, have a look at the second best NSW blog.
Stoush.net is fabulous, Lefty E, though Flutey is of course a worthy winner!
Yikes, we cleaned up, though, didn’t we? Best Australian Political Blog as well!
And whyisitso’s quibbles about nominations don’t apply to the Best Political Blog category - where the nominees were as follows:
* A Western Heart
* A Yobbo’s View
* Adventures of Queer Penguin
* AnonymousLefty
* antallergy.org
* Backpages
* FightDemBack!
* John Quiggin
* Larvatus Prodeo
* Machine Gune Keyboard: MGK
* Not The West
* Paul & Carls daily diatribe
* Red Rag
* Suki has an opinion
* The Bartlett Diaries
* The Currency Lad
* The Road to Surfdom
* Tim Blair
* Tim Lambert
“Yet you still post here, whyisitso”
David, I’ve never posted on this site or any other. Mark barely tolerates me even commenting, having already made some noises hinting I’m on the verge of the EP and CL treatment.
whyisitso, I’ve known Mark for over a decade, and he’s a pretty reasonable and tolerant guy.
I agree that it’s a shame that Catallaxy wasn’t nominated - the posts and discussion on that blog are usually quite interesting.
But the real question is 56.4% of how many votes ?
because with out a total vote count a percentage is meaningless. :o)
“he’s a pretty reasonable and tolerant guy.”
Provided you agree with view of the world.
whyisitso: I don’t know about that - I’ve seen him get on quite well with people whose political views he disagrees with.
Well I can’t argue about your personal experiences, Sach. I can only use Mark’s behaviour as moderator of this blog as evidence.
I fail to see why you would be surprised if a moderator gets concerned when you enter a discussion by referring to everyone here as “you bastards”, whyisitso.
What Iain said. I would have liked full details of each blog’s primary vote, percentage and tally.
And for Antony Green Election Analyst to have made an appearance with his laptop, correcting Eric Abetz, trying not to listen to Richo and interrupting Kerry O’Brien.
Congratulations on winning an award created, stacked and voted by your own readers. You are truly great.
P.S. Mohammed was a paedophile.
I’ve approved your comment, Yobbo, just so fair minded readers can get an idea of the actual motives behind C.L.’s claims about hypocrisy.
And, Vlado’s awards have been around for years. They weren’t created by any LP readers.
The link to C.L.’s post is here. There’s a page image of the comment that he complains was “censored” here.
Mark’s response is here.
Read on along that thread, and make your own mind up about who’s being hypocritical, or deliberately provocative.
People might also want to keep in mind that the commenter known as “smellydeadjesus” was around before that particular thread, and has commented elsewhere, which is not the same as people changing their names in an attempt to be deliberately provocative.
Kim, your heroic preoccupation is beginning to look like protesting too much. The nic I used to make a point was removed because it was anti-Islamic. There is no other reason. There’s no use arguing anything else because no-one believes you.
CL - Abu Nidal of Thread Hijackers par excellence …
Well played, Mark - even with your shameless constant reminders about voting (and Yobbo’s reservations about provenance) it’s a worthy recognition.
But how new do you have to be to be “Best new blog”?
There are non-Islamic hijackers you could have used for your analogy, Jason. Your default recourse to a prejudiced Muslim stereotype is appalling.
hey C.L. I voted for you in the blog awards even though you are a grumpy old bugger at times.
/LP EquivalenceGenerator™
Currency, if you want ™ you’re looking for ™
Tony - I assume best “new blog” is since the last blog awards in January 2005.
Oh, and Liam, I agree it would have been helpful to have information about no. of votes, primaries and preference distributions etc.
Shorter C.L.: My intention was to be a troll to prove a point, so I could write a post accusing THE LEFT of hypocrisy.
Just for once, C.L., you might like to modify your position in response to arguments, and even have the good grace to acknowledge it when someone says they’re human and make mistakes and was wrong.
But, no, the RWDB never backs down, never apologises, blah blah.
Yawn.
Yawn away, Kim. I’m not the one going on about it.
I apologise if that was a bit aggro, C.L.
But you’re quite right that you’re not going on about it. Your silence in responding to the substance of the points made arising out of your post is telling.
Kim, my relative silence on the substantive matter at hand derives from what remains of my good will for Mark and LP. The point I made speaks for itself and you know it.
It seems you want to draw me into a renewed debate about the same subjects. When I bite, you accuse me of trolling. When I leave off, you say I’m capitulating.
Nobody’s buying your theatrics.
Are they for sale? Markets in everything these days!
It’s been less than a year! Wowsers - feels like you’ve been around for ever.
In the best possible way, of course.
Cheers, Tony. It does seem like forever!
C.L. hasn’t recovered from this http://www.haloscan.com/comments/tcl/113808731989433167/?a=46588#157371 in this punter’s humble opinion.
Hardly. Kim’s implication that the “Prophet” may have consumated his “marriage” to Aisha while she was pre-pubescent - according to some erstwhile custom then extant - would be offensive to Muslims.
That’s what happens when you uncritically crank stuff out of the LP EquivalenceGenerator.
I thought the point Kim was trying to make, and quite eloquently did in fact make, C.L., was that applying the term pedophile to someone who lived in the 7th century is anachronistic. For the benefit of people who haven’t followed the link, she pointed out that up until the 16th or 17th century, it was quite usual in the Christian West for girls to be betrothed to much older men when they were pre-pubescent and the marriage itself often took place when girls were around 12. In the upper classes, the marriage night was a ritual affair with hangers on and relatives crowding around the bed to watch the deflowering.
We would regard such events as barbaric and unacceptable, but social mores in the 21st century are very different from pre-modern social mores.
As somewhat of a relevant aside, here’s an excerpt from today’s Crikey email on Howard’s “teach the kids dates” thing:
Anyway, I really must take myself off to bed as I have to be up before 7am to get on a plane to Sydney.
LP’s EquivalenceGenerator cranks out another standard. To wit: today’s Muslims are no worse than the eleventh century’s Crusaders. Yay! In the year 2906 they may be civilised. Honestly, I think Islamic readers - if you have any - would prefer you and Kim to desist from any further defences of their religion.
The “Prophet” also appropriated his son-in-law’s wife - having bullied the fellow out of the way to do so. Pretty much zero sexual or marital rules applied to the big man himself.
Strange how Allah always let the “Prophet” bed anyone he wanted - any circumstance, any age. As with all cults, special sexual rules for the founder alone are prima facie evidence of egomaniacal perversion.
Sound like a man with whom you’d entrust a six year old?
No.
Centuries before, the founder of another religion was counselling his chief disciple to put his sword away. Sound like the same God at work?
No.
Mark, why have you deleted ANOTHER of my comments?
I didn’t C.L. I was asleep.
It was in moderation. It’s there now.
My comments always appear straight away. Why are CL’s in moderation? He’s a regular commenter. Perhaps you could explain what the moderation process is, Mark.
Incidentally immediately after I post a comment there appears a bracket [edit], which on clicking leads me to a login for which I don’t have recognition, and there’s no method explained on how to register. If there really is an edit facility it would be handy sometimes as spelling etc errors sometimes do get through.
whyisitso, the login/edit is for site authors only, as far as I know. I know how exasperating it is to type up a comment and submit it only then to notice a typo - if you want a comment of your own edited just ask and if there’s a site author around it will be attended to.
Mark
“that applying the term pedophile to someone who lived in the 7th century is anachronistic”
Ah, with due respect, but this is nonsense. Sure they married at much younger ages in the old days. However….
The “prophet” had his eye on this young girl when she was the ripe old age of SIX. He was a spritely 53!!!!
Now, as I said they used to get married at much earlier ages in those, but this is a horrendous story.
Not even in the animal world are very the very young attacked for sexual satisfaction.
This is a pretty shocking thing to hang your hat on and say the old prophet was a decent “Jesus” like figure.
whyisitso, I think I remember Rob saying that the “edit” button that appeared for those who weren’t registered authors was a bug in the code.
May I suggest you take advantage of the comment preview function to read over your comment before you post it? That way you can check for any typos etc.
As to your question to Mark, he’s in Sydney this weekend and I doubt that he’ll be logging in. You should be aware that the moderation filter picks up words that could be spam and that could well be the reason why C.L.’s comment was held in moderation. None of his others seem to have been.