If it is not the clothes we wear, the books we read, the places we attend, the God(s) we pray to, the life we lead its now “art” that causes grievous offence placing westerners in mortal danger.

Is any freedom worth dieing for?

That old cartoon? It’s been done. And lets face it: Jesus is the Son of God. Mohammed - peace be upon him - isn’t even related. He’s the prophet.

A vast array of sexualised Jesus caricatures and cartoons have been published in a host of media - the “Jesus is Cuming” T enjoyed a mercifully brief vogue a while back. Christianity is pilloried and lampooned on a continuing basis; priests caricatured, beliefs and practices turned into comedy. Christians complain to TV stations, to newspapers, to lawmakers etc, usually - thankfully - to no avail. Who would want to pass up the rich satirical motherlode available from the actions of a demented religious nutjob judge in Alabama dragging an illicit one tonne block of marble carved with the Ten Commandments into his courthouse? Who would want to have to be “respectful” towards Scientology? Or forgo the opportunity for bearded poofs to dress up as nuns?

I’ve been listening to a representative of the Lebanese Journo’s Union advise Fran Kelly that she “believes in freedom of speech but there’s such a thing as ethics and good taste.” Unfortunately, Fran passed up the opportunity to test that frequently asserted proposition with Salman Rushdie rather than an undistinguished tabloid cartoon but there you go.

Heck I would.

I note there is in a JesusLovesPorn website with a downloadable file of a masturbating Jesus. As far as I am aware there hasn’t caused nuns and priests to go about rioting.

What are you guys doing up, anyway? It must be 4 am in the civilised states. I have an excuse. Can’t go to bed for hours yet as I’m on nights from tomorrow.

So, no initials. No more discussion. Apologies, but I trust you’ll cope, easily.

“And as for the appeasement theme, GB, no idea what you’re on about. Im sorry you’re feeling intimidated by a small minority of loonies, far away.”

Well done LE, Could only be written by someone who has never lived in a muslim dominated community…

No correspondence will be entered into regarding such decisions.

The CIA is constantly leaking to Walter Pincus and others to undermine the President. If not the nation entire. They seem to have run the Wilson conspiracy to mislead the public and go after the administration. Wilson kicked off his campaign of lies around the leftist circuit and over on Democracy.now. And then there is the idea that young radical leftists might quite naturally seek these careers out.

Actor Anjasmara and model Isabella were reported to the Jakarta Police on Thursday for allegedly posing nude in a photograph depicting Adam and Eve displayed since Sept. 17 2005 at the Bank Indonesia Museum in Central Jakarta.
FPI member Jafar Sidik alleged that the three 9includes photographer) had insulted Islam by portraying Adam and Eve in the nude. Adam is believed to be a holy prophet by Muslims, which accounts for around 85 percent of Indonesia’s 220 million people.

Music band Dewa was reported to police because FPI thought the group had insulted Islam by using Allah’s name on the cover of its album. Dewa and FPI agreed to settle the case out of court.

FPI also reported Miss Indonesia and Miss Transvestite Indonesia because they deemed them to be an insult to Muslims in Indonesia. Those cases are still being investigated.

Jakarta Post - September 21, 2005

Yuli Tri Suwarni, Bandung — Hundreds of people in West Java vandalized on Monday night houses, mosques and cars belonging to members of the Indonesian Ahmadiyah Congregation (JAI), a Muslim group whose teachings differ from the central tenets of Islam.

In July 05, thousands of people attacked the Ahmadiyah compound in Parung, Bogor, West Java, in a protest against the group’s teachings.

The attack was condemned by Muslim organizations and leaders, who said that faith differences must not be resolved with violence. However, nobody was arrested for the Parung violence

and on and on and on……………………………

I’m stuck for words. Perhaps it needs none.

If someone were to produce a cartoon suggesting that Jesus was sexually abused at a Catholic boarding school - just to show the world that we don’t self-censor in Australia of course - would all the pro-cartoonists come out and publish it as far and wide as possible to show how modern we are?

The organisation defending churches you refer to is Muhammadiyah (at least I assume thats the one).

May I suggest you do a bit more research on that mob, the moderates lost the battle for that group over three years ago. As for defending churches..its a local joke, they are also ardent supporters of the current regulation which allows the closure of any religious building that does not have a permit approved by the local community (in reality, impossible in muslim dominated area).

As for the church defenders themselves…”its called walking the gaunlet”

“Yes, I seem to recall one Alexander Downer carrying on about “appeasementâ€? of Iraq when the “Old Europeâ€? refused to endorse military action against Iraq and its Wheat (sorry, Weapons) of Mass Destruction, preferring sanctions etc. Boy he carried on with that one, like it was clever or something.”

How is that an argument in favour of appeasement? The Europeans were trading blood for oil. And may have been trying to delay the war in order to hide the weapons they’d helped Saddam with. Do you HAVE an argument in favour of appeasement or not?

Lefty Elitist sez:

“For a minute there I thought you were talking about cluster-bombing of civilians in Iraq…..”

But that never happened. As stated before you are a complete lunatic.

“….. or the systematic policy of civilian disposession and destruction of homes undertaken by Israeli tanks under the guise of “self-defenceâ€?….”

GUISE!!!!! Get help lefty. You shouldn’t be allowed outside.

Fellahs its a pretty established practice of Mullahs to rev these guys up on Friday night prayers. No need to run away from that one.
Steve Munn sez:

“JC, you need to grow up.”

No Steve you do.

Kim sez:

“JC could always relocate himself to Denmark and join the Danish People’s Party which advocates forced repatriation.”

He could. But he didn’t. Nor is there any indication that he might. A very strange comment.

Steve Munn says:

“You are wrong Rob. JC has called for his own version of final solution:”

No Steve you are lying about this.

Kim. The US State Department acted appallingly as usual. They are chock-full of leftists just like the CIA. The unrepresentative lifers in Washington most always manage to muck things up and shift the blame to the out of towners. That is to say the administration.

“Geoff Honnor, Rob, let’s be honest all with ourselves. Liberal democracy is by definition non-placatory, and gleefully encouraging of so-called crises of religion.”

No that’s nonsense. Its true that liberal democracies are constantly involved in war with non-liberal democracies. But that’s more to do with (ironically) their passive nature that presents difficulties with deterrence. As well their apparent legitimacy is a mortal threat to regimes who do not have it. So that therefore the dictatorships, when not scared witless, are in a constant war to undermine democracies.

Otherwise, can’t help with the comprehension. Best of luck.