Comments on: Those unsophisticated Westies …. http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: brownie http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-60042 brownie Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:42:45 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-60042 Annie Praeioulx's story BBM is not the first film about it's theme. Decades ago an English film The Family Way (John Mills, Hayley Mills, Hywel Bennett), as I recall from my own memory of seeing it, was about JMills getting married and taking his best mate on the honeymoon, and despite spawning the pretty Mr Bennetts son-character, Mills loved his best mate all his life. The story was that this fact seemed to prevent the son character from consumating his own marriage to Hayley Mills character. It was very sad and dramatic and Very Sixties (now I will go to imbd it and see how inaccurate I might have been) although nobody served up a tennis ball. Annie Praeioulx’s story BBM is not the first film about it’s theme.
Decades ago an English film The Family Way (John Mills, Hayley Mills, Hywel Bennett), as I recall from my own memory of seeing it, was about JMills getting married and taking his best mate on the honeymoon, and despite spawning the pretty Mr Bennetts son-character, Mills loved his best mate all his life.
The story was that this fact seemed to prevent the son character from consumating his own marriage to Hayley Mills character.
It was very sad and dramatic and Very Sixties
(now I will go to imbd it and see how inaccurate I might have been)
although nobody served up a tennis ball.

]]> By: Leinad http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50476 Leinad Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:11:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50476 Seconding the Aristocrats, saw it with Gran, we both nearly died laughing. From what I'm hearing about BBM it sounds tame as hell in comparison. When it comes to Profanity, Lewdness and other Unclean and Immoral acts Aristocrats beats the crap out of it live on stage with a bucket of RU486'd fetuses. Moralists can be so <i>selective</i>... Seconding the Aristocrats, saw it with Gran, we both nearly died laughing. From what I’m hearing about BBM it sounds tame as hell in comparison. When it comes to Profanity, Lewdness and other Unclean and Immoral acts Aristocrats beats the crap out of it live on stage with a bucket of RU486′d fetuses. Moralists can be so selective…

]]> By: via collins http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50475 via collins Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:49:17 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50475 Just scanned box office and screens internationally Ron, and the pattern is consistent everywhere. Less screens than the average middle-ranking feature, huge per screen averages. $41,000,000 in US pales next to a Potter, but it would feed a lot of sheep. I would guess that if it blitzes Oscar, it will go wide, but until then, it's cooking at the perfect heat. Just scanned box office and screens internationally Ron, and the pattern is consistent everywhere. Less screens than the average middle-ranking feature, huge per screen averages. $41,000,000 in US pales next to a Potter, but it would feed a lot of sheep.

I would guess that if it blitzes Oscar, it will go wide, but until then, it’s cooking at the perfect heat.

]]> By: boynton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50447 boynton Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:24:31 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50447 Nabs: (that'd be) Ace... Nabs: (that’d be) Ace…

]]> By: wbb http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50441 wbb Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:01:08 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50441 Laura, The Aristocrats is very funny. It's a smorgasbord of about a hundred yank comedians doing some decent downtime schtick. (Not for children however. Nor the family pet, really.) Laura, The Aristocrats is very funny. It’s a smorgasbord of about a hundred yank comedians doing some decent downtime schtick. (Not for children however. Nor the family pet, really.)

]]> By: Nabakov http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50435 Nabakov Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:22:48 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50435 "’I'd like to hear your theory on why you can’t make a good tennis movie, Nabs." Well, it's all about balls. Seriously. Any decent actor can look convincing teeing up on a golf ball or flexing their baseball bat while eyeing the pitcher. But unless you can actually serve a tennis ball in real life, you can't fake it on screen. Actually, since yer going light on the blogging for the moment, how about I cough up a short essay on the subject as a guest post for Boynton? And you can choose the piccies and court surface. “’I’d like to hear your theory on why you can’t make a good tennis movie, Nabs.”

Well, it’s all about balls. Seriously. Any decent actor can look convincing teeing up on a golf ball or flexing their baseball bat while eyeing the pitcher. But unless you can actually serve a tennis ball in real life, you can’t fake it on screen.

Actually, since yer going light on the blogging for the moment, how about I cough up a short essay on the subject as a guest post for Boynton? And you can choose the piccies and court surface.

]]> By: rog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50417 rog Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:49:01 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50417 Andy Warhol also did a kissy cowboy film called 'Lonesome Cowboys', all the cattle must have gone bush as they spent a lot of time talking about their hair and stuff. I'm not sure that the actors knew they were actors or if there was even a plot let alone a script, it was more like a footie player bonding session. Andy Warhol also did a kissy cowboy film called ‘Lonesome Cowboys’, all the cattle must have gone bush as they spent a lot of time talking about their hair and stuff. I’m not sure that the actors knew they were actors or if there was even a plot let alone a script, it was more like a footie player bonding session.

]]> By: Tony.T http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50414 Tony.T Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:18:24 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50414 Nabs, your great Strayan tennis fillum could be called <i>Love Actually</i>. Or <i>Ployers</i>. Nabs, your great Strayan tennis fillum could be called Love Actually. Or Ployers.

]]> By: boynton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50413 boynton Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:13:13 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50413 I'd like to hear your theory on why you can't make a good tennis movie, Nabs. I think there was a play in Melb about 20 years ago <i>set</i> on a tennis court. (I didn't write it - although Table-tennis did feature in an early one) I’d like to hear your theory on why you can’t make a good tennis movie, Nabs.

I think there was a play in Melb about 20 years ago set on a tennis court.

(I didn’t write it - although Table-tennis did feature in an early one)

]]> By: Ron http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50407 Ron Wed, 08 Feb 2006 06:52:33 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50407 Just saw an ad for the movie during the CH10 news (Sydney) so perhaps it's getting closer to a wider release. Just saw an ad for the movie during the CH10 news (Sydney) so perhaps it’s getting closer to a wider release.

]]> By: Kate http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50325 Kate Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:22:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50325 Would 'Gallipoli' be your favourite Aussie film then Patrick? No gays, only a token blackfella, a bit of sport, and stick-it-to-the-Poms patriotism we can all get behind. I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain yet (going on the weekend I daresay) but I can fully get behind a movie with two hot young cowboys kissing. In their hot cowboy get-up. Phew. Is it warm in here or what? I also like heart-rending and moving stories of forbidden love and repression, so it's going to be right up my alley. Would ‘Gallipoli’ be your favourite Aussie film then Patrick? No gays, only a token blackfella, a bit of sport, and stick-it-to-the-Poms patriotism we can all get behind.

I haven’t seen Brokeback Mountain yet (going on the weekend I daresay) but I can fully get behind a movie with two hot young cowboys kissing. In their hot cowboy get-up. Phew. Is it warm in here or what?

I also like heart-rending and moving stories of forbidden love and repression, so it’s going to be right up my alley.

]]> By: Laura http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50318 Laura Wed, 08 Feb 2006 01:07:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50318 How's The Aristocrats, wbb? I hadn't realised it had opened in Melbz. I could do with a laugh. How’s The Aristocrats, wbb? I hadn’t realised it had opened in Melbz.

I could do with a laugh.

]]> By: anthony http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50264 anthony Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:52:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50264 Actually the cricket scene was the crappest bit of the Crying Game. Actually the cricket scene was the crappest bit of the Crying Game.

]]> By: wbb http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50260 wbb Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:27:08 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50260 I ain't seen it, but when I popped up to The Nova the other night to chuckle my way thru The Aristocrats, the cheap night queue for BBM was the longest conga line of film goers I've ever seen in Lygon Street. It must be doing something right. I ain’t seen it, but when I popped up to The Nova the other night to chuckle my way thru The Aristocrats, the cheap night queue for BBM was the longest conga line of film goers I’ve ever seen in Lygon Street. It must be doing something right.

]]> By: R.H. http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50256 R.H. Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:13:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50256 I walk around with my eyes open. That's travel. My own show. I walk around with my eyes open.

That’s travel. My own show.

]]> By: via collins http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50247 via collins Tue, 07 Feb 2006 12:43:48 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50247 R.H., speaking on behalf of the yuppies, it's comforting to know that when we are enjoying a piece of corporate confection designed to separate us from our hard-earned, that you are possibly outside the cinema. And when you have observed us, you will judge us. And you will report to us. Not a day goes by when these internets don't truly amaze me. R.H., speaking on behalf of the yuppies, it’s comforting to know that when we are enjoying a piece of corporate confection designed to separate us from our hard-earned, that you are possibly outside the cinema. And when you have observed us, you will judge us.

And you will report to us. Not a day goes by when these internets don’t truly amaze me.

]]> By: Nabakov http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50246 Nabakov Tue, 07 Feb 2006 12:39:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50246 "Maybe a sporting movie, yeah." Why bother. There's a very good reason the Aus film industy doesn't attempt sports movies much. And even then, pretty much as period drama. TV news, sport and gossip delivers all that would be unfolded by such movies for us everyday. The ups and downs of Warnie or Lleyton and Bec, on and off the field is the plot at first hand and in real time. There's also another reason why we don't get many sports movies here. Unlike gridiron, baseball or golf, the iconic Aus sports like AFL, cricket, tennis, swimming or farnarkling are hard to make visually believable without onscreen talent that can actually play the sport at a decent level. If I wasn't about to put on "Cherry Bomb" and dance around in my unmentionables , I'd bore you all shitless with my theory about why you can't make a good tennis movie, despite all the apparent dramatic potential of the sport. “Maybe a sporting movie, yeah.”

Why bother. There’s a very good reason the Aus film industy doesn’t attempt sports movies much. And even then, pretty much as period drama. TV news, sport and gossip delivers all that would be unfolded by such movies for us everyday. The ups and downs of Warnie or Lleyton and Bec, on and off the field is the plot at first hand and in real time.

There’s also another reason why we don’t get many sports movies here. Unlike gridiron, baseball or golf, the iconic Aus sports like AFL, cricket, tennis, swimming or farnarkling are hard to make visually believable without onscreen talent that can actually play the sport at a decent level.

If I wasn’t about to put on “Cherry Bomb” and dance around in my unmentionables , I’d bore you all shitless with my theory about why you can’t make a good tennis movie, despite all the apparent dramatic potential of the sport.

]]> By: R.H. http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50236 R.H. Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:41:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50236 Wake up daddy. What are you doing on threads about politics? To talk about it, right? To say it's no good. It might suit you if other people shut up. Well golly me, you poor thing. Wake up daddy. What are you doing on threads about politics?

To talk about it, right? To say it’s no good.
It might suit you if other people shut up.
Well golly me, you poor thing.

]]> By: patrick http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50234 patrick Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:33:07 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50234 We need a proper Aussie movie that is not about gays or aborigines, both vocal minorities, and is about normal Australians. Maybe a sporting movie, yeah. Screw this silly crap, let us get a proper movie made apart from one about a serial killer. We need a proper Aussie movie that is not about gays or aborigines, both vocal minorities, and is about normal Australians. Maybe a sporting movie, yeah.

Screw this silly crap, let us get a proper movie made apart from one about a serial killer.

]]> By: Zoe http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50231 Zoe Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:18:55 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/02/05/those-unsophisticated-westies/#comment-50231 Unlike your blogging, RH, which enlivens us all. Unlike your blogging, RH, which enlivens us all.

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