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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/09/08/propangada-dressed-up-as-infotainment/#comment-299068</link>
		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 03:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9/11 and the heroin connection:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Just three weeks after Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi arrived on July 3, 2000 to attend the flight school at Huffman Aviation in Venice, FL., the owner of the flight school, Wallace J. Hilliard, had his Learjet surrounded by DEA agents with submachine guns on the runway of Orlando Executive Airport.  

Agents found 43 pounds of heroin, arrested everyone onboard, and confiscated the plane.

Any honest prosecutor in the country would have instantly linked the huge heroin haul discovered on the flight school ownerâs plane to Mohamed Attaâs arrival at his flight school, and understood that he was looking into the heart of a continuing criminal conspiracy. 

Before 9/11, someone with big clout in the Bush Administration was buying heroin from Osama bin Laden.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.madcowprod.com/

See also http://www.madcowprod.com/04182006.html for more dirt.

Out of 200 flight schools in Florida, why did the terrorists choose to attend a drug trafficking school?

For the record, Hopsicker vehemently disagrees with the thermite-brought-down-the-twin-towers theory.

&lt;blockquote&gt;... Brigham Young University physicist Steven Jones ... said he believes an incendiary substance called Thermite, bolstered by sulfur ... to generate exceptionally hot fires at the World Trade Center, [caused] the structural steel to fail and the buildings to collapse.

In addition to his research in scientific areas, Jones is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and has also published papers like âBehold My Hands: Evidence for Christ&#039;s Visit in Ancient America,â? on archeological clues he has found supporting the belief that Jesus Christ visited Latin America after his resurrection, as chronicled in the Book of Mormon.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9/11 and the heroin connection:</p>
<blockquote><p>Just three weeks after Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi arrived on July 3, 2000 to attend the flight school at Huffman Aviation in Venice, FL., the owner of the flight school, Wallace J. Hilliard, had his Learjet surrounded by DEA agents with submachine guns on the runway of Orlando Executive Airport.  </p>
<p>Agents found 43 pounds of heroin, arrested everyone onboard, and confiscated the plane.</p>
<p>Any honest prosecutor in the country would have instantly linked the huge heroin haul discovered on the flight school ownerâs plane to Mohamed Attaâs arrival at his flight school, and understood that he was looking into the heart of a continuing criminal conspiracy. </p>
<p>Before 9/11, someone with big clout in the Bush Administration was buying heroin from Osama bin Laden.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.madcowprod.com/</a></p>
<p>See also <a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/04182006.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.madcowprod.com/04182006.html</a> for more dirt.</p>
<p>Out of 200 flight schools in Florida, why did the terrorists choose to attend a drug trafficking school?</p>
<p>For the record, Hopsicker vehemently disagrees with the thermite-brought-down-the-twin-towers theory.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; Brigham Young University physicist Steven Jones &#8230; said he believes an incendiary substance called Thermite, bolstered by sulfur &#8230; to generate exceptionally hot fires at the World Trade Center, [caused] the structural steel to fail and the buildings to collapse.</p>
<p>In addition to his research in scientific areas, Jones is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and has also published papers like âBehold My Hands: Evidence for Christ&#8217;s Visit in Ancient America,â? on archeological clues he has found supporting the belief that Jesus Christ visited Latin America after his resurrection, as chronicled in the Book of Mormon.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if scenes have been conflated then that destroys the idea that it is 100% factually true. Depending on what has been change, reviews of of those who have seen the preview copies indicate at least two incidents (conflated or not) simply did not happen. 

They don&#039;t call it the Wing Nut Daily for nothing Rob. 

I&#039;m with boredinHK. It is just a TV show and I expect the commercial networks couldn&#039;t give a fig about whether the 911 movies are factually based or not and if they accurately portray events. It is all about cashing in via ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if scenes have been conflated then that destroys the idea that it is 100% factually true. Depending on what has been change, reviews of of those who have seen the preview copies indicate at least two incidents (conflated or not) simply did not happen. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t call it the Wing Nut Daily for nothing Rob. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with boredinHK. It is just a TV show and I expect the commercial networks couldn&#8217;t give a fig about whether the 911 movies are factually based or not and if they accurately portray events. It is all about cashing in via ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Wacky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Wacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 17:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Silkworm, I&#039;m in Perth and I&#039;m watching it right now. It is of course total and utter nonsense from top to bottom, in a way that The Path to 9/11 could never hope to match. After &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.911inplanesite.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reading all about it here&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;m sure LP-ers of sound mind and good conscience will:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Do your democratic duty and ring Channel Ten, point out that you are a great supporter of the prime minister’s views on accurate historical information, and that you therefore request them not to show the film until such time that producers fix the well-documented errors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Their phone number is Ph: (02) 9650 1010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Silkworm, I&#8217;m in Perth and I&#8217;m watching it right now. It is of course total and utter nonsense from top to bottom, in a way that The Path to 9/11 could never hope to match. After <a href="http://www.911inplanesite.com/" rel="nofollow">reading all about it here</a>, I&#8217;m sure LP-ers of sound mind and good conscience will:</p>
<blockquote><p>Do your democratic duty and ring Channel Ten, point out that you are a great supporter of the prime minister’s views on accurate historical information, and that you therefore request them not to show the film until such time that producers fix the well-documented errors.</p></blockquote>
<p>Their phone number is Ph: (02) 9650 1010.</p>
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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Channel Ten advertised &lt;em&gt;World Poker Tour&lt;/em&gt; at 11 p.m. last night. I tuned in to watch it, but they changed it without warning to &lt;em&gt;In Plane Sight&lt;/em&gt;, one of the better conspiracy documentaries on 9/11. Did anyone else get to see it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Channel Ten advertised <em>World Poker Tour</em> at 11 p.m. last night. I tuned in to watch it, but they changed it without warning to <em>In Plane Sight</em>, one of the better conspiracy documentaries on 9/11. Did anyone else get to see it?</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Patterson said may very well be true Rob:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Patterson told WND he recognizes the television production conflates several events, but, in terms of conveying how the Clinton administration handled its opportunities to get bin Laden, it&#039;s &quot;100 percent factually correct,&quot; he said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But what version of the show did he view?

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An ABC executive who requested anonymity told the Washington Post &lt;strong&gt;the network has made &quot;adjustments and refinements&quot; to the drama&lt;/strong&gt; that are &quot;intended to make clearer that it was general indecisiveness&quot; by federal officials that left the U.S. vulnerable to attack, and &quot;not any one individual.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

[Both quotes from Rob&#039;s source cited above.]

PS, I agree wholeheartedly with Frank Zappa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Patterson said may very well be true Rob:</p>
<blockquote><p>Patterson told WND he recognizes the television production conflates several events, but, in terms of conveying how the Clinton administration handled its opportunities to get bin Laden, it&#8217;s &#8220;100 percent factually correct,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>But what version of the show did he view?</p>
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An ABC executive who requested anonymity told the Washington Post <strong>the network has made &#8220;adjustments and refinements&#8221; to the drama</strong> that are &#8220;intended to make clearer that it was general indecisiveness&#8221; by federal officials that left the U.S. vulnerable to attack, and &#8220;not any one individual.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>[Both quotes from Rob's source cited above.]</p>
<p>PS, I agree wholeheartedly with Frank Zappa.</p>
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		<title>By: boredinHK</title>
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		<dc:creator>boredinHK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;just like the model of the post-modern corporation.&quot;
Crap - now corporations are post thingumy jig ?
On this whole issue please all take a deep breath and remember it is a TV show.How much truth is there on the tube ?
As Frank Zappa said - &quot;I&#039;m the slime oozing out from your TV set&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;just like the model of the post-modern corporation.&#8221;<br />
Crap &#8211; now corporations are post thingumy jig ?<br />
On this whole issue please all take a deep breath and remember it is a TV show.How much truth is there on the tube ?<br />
As Frank Zappa said &#8211; &#8220;I&#8217;m the slime oozing out from your TV set&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: seriously</title>
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		<dc:creator>seriously</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the bottom of Rob&#039;s Worldnetdaily link is an ad for &quot;NukAlert 24/7 Radiation Monitor &amp; Alarm! Compact Keychain!&quot; And if wingnuts have taught us anything, it&#039;s that the standard response to people like Patterson is to note that he has a book to sell, thus nothing he says can be taken seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the bottom of Rob&#8217;s Worldnetdaily link is an ad for &#8220;NukAlert 24/7 Radiation Monitor &amp; Alarm! Compact Keychain!&#8221; And if wingnuts have taught us anything, it&#8217;s that the standard response to people like Patterson is to note that he has a book to sell, thus nothing he says can be taken seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A former Clinton aide reportedly says the mini-series conflates various incidents but is &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51898&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;100% factually correct&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A former Clinton aide reportedly says the mini-series conflates various incidents but is &#8220;<a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51898" rel="nofollow">100% factually correct</a>&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But by the same token the whole scenario of 9/11 was so radically different from anything experienced before, it’s not hard to see why so many people failed to imagine the worst.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Important point and it does explain a lot of the governmental and intelligence failures leading up to the attacks. It was an audacious plan. It will never likely happen again but prior to 911 was not something that, for good reasons, was ever considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But by the same token the whole scenario of 9/11 was so radically different from anything experienced before, it’s not hard to see why so many people failed to imagine the worst.</p></blockquote>
<p>Important point and it does explain a lot of the governmental and intelligence failures leading up to the attacks. It was an audacious plan. It will never likely happen again but prior to 911 was not something that, for good reasons, was ever considered.</p>
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		<title>By: sublime cowgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>sublime cowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 04:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about the War on Terror, i&#039;ve just done my gothic makeover of Saddam over at poligoths.

Fidel Catro will be next i think, but still musing as to who i should morph him into.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poligoths.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about the War on Terror, i&#8217;ve just done my gothic makeover of Saddam over at poligoths.</p>
<p>Fidel Catro will be next i think, but still musing as to who i should morph him into.<br />
<a href="http://www.poligoths.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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