Lamberts objections are idiocy. There is nothing wrong with the petition. Literally thousands of names.

The panic is not driven by climate scientists. Its largely a non-climate-science driven panic.

And Lambert features very strongly in this panic. All over the world you will find people quoting this know-nothing non-scientist.

What is wrong with you? It could not be a more mindless suggestion.

What I’m telling people here is just so well known to science.

What would another study do?

Now have you read the Oregon petition?

It tells you what I’ve been trying to tell you people all this time. By the way as soon as someone mentions OREGON PETITION anywhere in the world then anti-scientist Lambert will show up and lie about it.

“A “bogus suggestionâ€?? So let’s see – you have an idea that challenges the scientific concensus on the effects of atmospheric CO2 emissions, which may, if true, demonstrably change our understanding of the impact of emitting CO2.â€?

No Sacha. No No NO NO NO NO NO.

I haven’t challenged science at all. Science is on my side.

You see you are not THINKING you are not READING and you are unwilling to LISTEN.

You have shut your mind off right from the start. And it was this dumb suggestion of yours that allowed you to shut your mind off all this time.

Now just remember. You are NOT a climate-scientist. You are a mathematician. And you should be listening to people who know more about this sort of stuff then you.

“I cannot understand why you would be so damn silly as to keep repeating such a bogus suggestion. It just goes to reinforce my predjudices about science-workers when you think about it.”

A “bogus suggestion”? So let’s see – you have an idea that challenges the scientific concensus on the effects of atmospheric CO2 emissions, which may, if true, demonstrably change our understanding of the impact of emitting CO2. You keep on talking about it here, and referring to how “stupid science workers” can’t see what you can see, presumeably because their training leads them to not see things that outsiders can see.

This is all plausible. What you need to do is to test your ideas. To do this, either work at them yourself, which might necessitate learning all the relevant material, or ask people who know something about it to evaluate your ideas. To do this, you need to not abuse them, or there’s every chance they won’t take you seriously.

After you test your ideas and think that they, or some descendent of them, might have a hint of truth, the next question is how do you make them to have an impact? You could write to people who currently work in the area and see what they say, or send them to a journal.

Writing about them here will convince no-one. It seems to me that in your view of the world it is impossible for your ideas to gain any currency regardless of their merit – the science world is irretrievably biased against your ideas because it’s filled with “stupid science workers”. Thus no real progress is possible.

Do you think this is a fair reflection of reality?

(Nabs don’t be daft. The links are there for you to see. Its not clear who is to blame for the shabby reasoning so I would tend to blame the journalists AND the science-workers.)

Here is some information on scientists. Perhaps as horrified as me by science workers gone wild. They’ve signed this massive petition to reject Kyoto.

Its most important that any of you qualified PHD’s out there put your signature on this one too.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/pproject.htm#357

observes the divide between the scientific consensus on global warming – of over 9,000 scientific studies into the issue, every last one concludes global warming is real, man-made and bad – and media reporting of the issue, in which over 50% of reports suggest the science is uncertain.

The correct figures are 928 studies and 53% of reports in MSM.

“Science! I don’t need no stinkin’ science to prove I’m right about science stuff”

Now your suggestion was always a stupid one. It was a stupid one when you first came up with it. And its even more stupid each time you repeat it.

This panic is not been driven by science and is not to be overcome by science. Nor am I qualified to do original research work. Nor could I get money for such a project.

I cannot understand why you would be so damn silly as to keep repeating such a bogus suggestion. It just goes to reinforce my predjudices about science-workers when you think about it.

A good life!

Kelvin Thomson’s letter is appalling!