Saturday Salon

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49 Responses to “Saturday Salon”


  1. 1 mickNo Gravatar

    1st!

  2. 2 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    2nd? 5th? 18th? I don’t know.

    I’m grumpy because I have just wasted several hours of my valuable time thanks to that stupid beat-up story in The Bulletin about Veterans’ Affarts Minister Billson being death-threatted by a cartoon and scared by ex-Diggers grumbling about political treachery in their emails. Look out! there’s crude art-work hiding behind those bushes and it might bite you on the bum! Punch-A-Pollie Club? Wonder if they give a discount for group membership? And is membership restricted to injured war vaterans or can anyone join? How can we get an exemption for Senator Andrew Bartlett? (then again, maybe he would like to join too).

    The worrying thing is that this farce could be part of a rather nasty flip-flop by the Howard government that has been emerging over the last several days …..

  3. 3 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    the link didn’t go through; trying again

    http://ungrateful-troublemaker.blogspot.com/2006/10/why-howard-will-ditch-war-veterans.html

    (Admin: link fixed)

  4. 4 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    damn! change “wull” to “will” . Goodnight.

  5. 5 steve mNo Gravatar

    Introducing the city of Curitiba in Brazil. If there is a Green mecca, and proof that Green style policies really do work, this place is it. http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/fellows/brazil1203/master-plan.html

    ps. does anyone know of a cure for insomnia?

  6. 6 mickNo Gravatar

    does anyone know of a cure for insomnia?

    Alcoholism?

  7. 7 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    steve m:
    Thanks for that link about Curitiba.

    Didn’t we have similar things in our town planning until councils and state governments caved-in to the greed of the White Shoe Brigade, crooks and polluters from the early ‘Sixties onwards?

  8. 8 The GuruNo Gravatar

    Recommended listening or reading transcript: Rudd and Abbot on Sat Nov 4 ABC Life Matters. Very interesting discussion about where each draws the line of religion and the state.

    Abbot believes in private charity and public sexual morality
    Rudd believes in public charity and private sexual morality.

  9. 9 ansteybranchopolousNo Gravatar

    and both are evidence that religion has always impeded the potential of humanity

  10. 10 LauraNo Gravatar

    Yes, and as far as I understood Rudd’s remark about “the sanctity of human life”, when Geraldine Doogue asked him about abortion and stem cell research, they both prefer witch doctoring to science.

    Abbott’s comment about how everyone is sinful made me smile.

  11. 11 agNo Gravatar

    I await Tony Abbott’s next thinkpiece in Quadrant: The sins of John Howard.

  12. 12 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    test

  13. 13 AustinNo Gravatar

    Seems to work.

  14. 14 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    Well it bloody wasn’t last night. All I got was some half-arsed comment about cowboys and posts that vanished into the ether.

  15. 15 KimNo Gravatar

    There was a problem with the host’s clock.

    Believe it or not!

  16. 16 observaNo Gravatar

    It’s saturday fatwa time again folks! Unfortunately it’s come to my attention a lot of you have been eying off pictures of your many dogs, wives and similar outlandish collectables. Perhaps you’ve been listening to shaky sheiks or shoofti muftis again, when as we all know the Imam knows best.
    http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=1796

  17. 17 KimNo Gravatar

    Obs, you’re weird, dude.

  18. 18 anthonyNo Gravatar

    Those, who like myself, were gutted when Wolfmother turned out to be such Jazz Rock disappointments might like to catch Japanese rock band Guitar Wolf when they come around on their tour. They are the real deal, right down to their studded ROCK N ROLL belts for their leather pants, handy markings on the back the neck to show where the appropriate barre chords are, and plug in and play amp set-up.
    They’ve been around for about two decades now, managed to record the loudest album evah and feature in their own movie Wild Zero
    While being obviously being very American Rock and Roll inspired they’ve integrated it with a uniquely Japanese identity – lead singer Seiji rides a Kawasaki ZII 750 (seen in Mad Max) and they’ve never had the desire to switch from the Katakana English of Jettoh Genarei-shonu and LOCK and LOLL.
    Last night’s Perth gig was appropriately shambolic, stage jumpers got a kick in the arse from the bassist and there was high comedy when the lead guitarist tried to in vain explain to the ‘guest guitarist’ from the audience that he should jump in the air for ‘rock’, walking on the audience, the windmill, backwards guitar playing, and SWEAT. The only regret was the small gig space meant there wasn’t much of an area for their music to fill.
    Sure it’s all make believe but it just makes me that much sadder when I think the face of Australian music is Bernard Fanning.
    A few pics I took of the gig are here. And isn’t it great how you can take cameras into concerts these days (in my day etc.)

  19. 19 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    Where was the gig?

  20. 20 anthonyNo Gravatar

    The Amplifier Bar.

    Nice spot, just a wee bit pokey for the gig space.

  21. 21 KateNo Gravatar

    Hey Spicedude, did you see Mach Pelican with ‘em?

  22. 22 anthonyNo Gravatar

    Yeah I did. They were pretty good in a late 90’s punk kinda way. Would make for fun festival starters.

  23. 23 RobertNo Gravatar

    Anthony: I wasn’t ignoring you yesterday. I got your message, but I couldn’t respond (longish story). As it happens, I was not in town anyway — I was at the movies, where I ran into the lovely Ms & Mr Kate and watched an awesome fillum.

  24. 24 Stuart FenechNo Gravatar

    What if a good religious grounding is the only thing separating many people from purely relying on animalistic instinct?

  25. 25 tigtogNo Gravatar

    How would you define a good religious grounding?

    I’ve often read the claim that studies consistently show that atheists are the least likely people in the population to be convicted for committing crimes of violence.

    I must sadly admit that I don’t know where these purported studies are published, if indeed they are, but assuming they exist and are methodologically sound, what does that datum mean for your question?

  26. 26 tigtogNo Gravatar

    Robert, it must be an LP meet-up day today – I ran into Liam during a brief break in herding 12-year-old girls around a shopping mall (a take-my-friends-to-the-movies birthday party for the tigling).

    Liam and I share a weakness for de-stressing in crowded malls by heading for the pet shop to check out the kittens.

  27. 27 LauraNo Gravatar

    The baby animals shop is the only part I like about going inside shopping centres.

  28. 28 tigtogNo Gravatar

    The kittens were white/tortoiseshell, and cream burmese. And frisky.

  29. 29 Frisky homeless puppyNo Gravatar

    Kittens. Always with the kittens.

  30. 30 tigtogNo Gravatar

    Acksually I’m pretty keen on the various varieties of black and tan puppies myself, especially the ones that also have spots.

    However, puppies romp, not frisk.

  31. 31 CristyNo Gravatar

    “Liam and I share a weakness for de-stressing in crowded malls by heading for the pet shop to check out the kittens.”

    Oh, I love doing this too – especially the puppies. However, I get so sad about leaving them there and not being able to take them all home that I wonder if it was worth it.

  32. 32 KimNo Gravatar

    It seems there’s a Lutheran version of C.L.

    Check it out:

    http://mildcolonialboy.wordpress.com/

  33. 33 Frisky homeless puppyNo Gravatar

    I’m sorry tigtog. I was born this way.

  34. 34 anthonyNo Gravatar

    Robert. No no that’s fine, more last minute planning, just hope you weren’t speeding when you ran into Kate and Mr Kate.

    Stuart, if you’re sugeesting that religion is the only thing between us and a massive outbreak of buttock sniffing, seasonal migration, and log dam building then thank God.

  35. 35 BrianNo Gravatar

    Steve M, I’ve had insomnia for over 40 years. My circadian rhythms got stuffed doing all-night sessions to finish assignments at uni.

    There are lots of techniques. One of the easiest is to just breathe steadily, relax, and listen to the sound of your own breathing. Resist the temptation to think about anything at all. And don’t worry about not sleeping. Just lying there and resting is 75% as good.

    Another is to close your eyes then flick your eyes in sequence between three positions – down, straight ahead, up, straight-ahead, down…

    Another is to go and see a hypnotherapist who might give you a visualisation and silent talking sequence that puts you off to sleep.

    Don’t take a nap on Saturday afternoons as it will stuff up your patterns.

    Then there’s all that stuff about sleep hygiene, being regular in sleeping and waking up times, not being over-stimulated in the bedroom etc! (They mean no TV set.)

    Yeah, and hot milk, vitamins and herbs etc. No coffee after 4pm and maybe none at all. Alcohol may put you off initially but down the track it acts as a stimulant, I’m told.

    Having said all that, it all works a bit for me, but not really. I’ve found a way, but I’m not giving it out on the internets.

    It’s got to be fixed. So see your doctor or the local relaxation or transcendental meditation centre. They have sleep laboratories and stuff. There’ll be plenty of people to help and take your money.

    Good luck!

  36. 36 YobboNo Gravatar

    I was arrested last night for failing to obey a move-on order. I am seeking legal advice from anyone willing to offer it. The details and description of the situation are on my blog: http://yobbo.wordpress.com/

  37. 37 PhllNo Gravatar

    Hey Yobbo, How does feel to be a victim of your own naivety?

    Yobbo breaking rocks that id loved to see.

    It’s probably the Labour governments fault he he he.

  38. 38 MarkNo Gravatar

    Well, it is actually, if they introduced these idiotic laws, which anyone concerned with civil liberties should oppose. My sympathies are wholly with Yobbo on this one.

  39. 39 PhillNo Gravatar

    Mark,give me a little credit here please,It’s a joke joyce.
    However I can’t believe the Police didn’t give him fair warning.The Police in Northbridge have no sense of humour, and if you see what they put up with ,well !!

  40. 40 Lefty ENo Gravatar
  41. 41 MarkNo Gravatar

    Ok, Phill.

  42. 42 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    But he was drinking at the Elephant and Wheelbarrow. He deserved to be arrested.

  43. 43 jcNo Gravatar

    LE
    You can’t stop proliferation as the cat is out of the bag. The only thin g we can do is buy into missile defense and at some stage think about getting a few nukes ourlseves.

    Ugly, but’s that’s about it fo the next 50 very ugly years or so.

    What do you teach buy the way.

  44. 44 jcNo Gravatar

    by the way…. yuk

  45. 45 Lefty ENo Gravatar

    Actually JC, I dont have terribly great concerns about civil nuclear technology, and cooperating with neighbours (well, to clarify, I do have concerns, but they are more environmental / regulatory; rather than strategic/ defence oriented).

    Im more concerned about the Papua situation. Mainly because it aligns us with TNI hardcases, rather than the the reformers (which actually include the President), and that wont help human rights there.

    Im in a non-teaching role at present; so young minds are largely safe from my pernicious influence for now.

  46. 46 MarkNo Gravatar

    I’m teaching young international students Entrepreneurship and Risk Management over summer btw. Won’t be a very leftie-influenced course I hasten to add! Can’t say I ever ran across too many leftie courses when I was doing my postgrad Business and Commerce degrees myself…

  47. 47 jcNo Gravatar

    I’m sorry but I haven’t followed the NG stuff. I keep hearing that they are angry at us for some reason but that’s about it.

  48. 48 jcNo Gravatar

    Good to hear Mark.
    You’re really a very energetic guy by the sounds of things.

  49. 49 KimNo Gravatar

    Yep, he’s an energetic boy! Not sure where he finds the time to blog!

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