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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/01/grumpy-old-men-milne/#comment-287180</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 05:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the Milne - Mayne stoush is still on. Lesson for today is if you are going to say something like &quot;He rarely, if ever, checks his facts. In fact, he&#039;s mostly wrong&quot; you better be in possession of the facts &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/crikey-theyre-still-at-it/2006/12/04/1165080861129.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;yourself&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the Milne &#8211; Mayne stoush is still on. Lesson for today is if you are going to say something like &#8220;He rarely, if ever, checks his facts. In fact, he&#8217;s mostly wrong&#8221; you better be in possession of the facts <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/crikey-theyre-still-at-it/2006/12/04/1165080861129.html" rel="nofollow">yourself</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehehe... yes FDB, I spend all my time online in the library.  Sure beats working ;-)

However, Jo &amp; Kim have established that bigotry is alive &amp; well amongst the commentariat on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehehe&#8230; yes FDB, I spend all my time online in the library.  Sure beats working <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However, Jo &amp; Kim have established that bigotry is alive &amp; well amongst the commentariat on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gather you&#039;re the exception that proves the rule, SATP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gather you&#8217;re the exception that proves the rule, SATP.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine lots of men want to bone Jessica Rowe.

Quick geography lesson Kim, there very few minerals in FNQ.

The high GDP of Yobsville is because the population roll up their sleeves and work, instead of talking all day about trivia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine lots of men want to bone Jessica Rowe.</p>
<p>Quick geography lesson Kim, there very few minerals in FNQ.</p>
<p>The high GDP of Yobsville is because the population roll up their sleeves and work, instead of talking all day about trivia.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yobsville FNQ would only have a high GDP because it happens to be built over minerals in the ground.

Anyway, steve, the Wikipedia entry on &quot;Edward Joseph &quot;Eddie&quot; McGuire AM&quot; tells the story:

&lt;blockquote&gt;McGuire&#039;s career as CEO has been marred by controversy. Before leaving for the costly Munich edition of The Footy Show, he announced the elimination of 100 jobs, most in news and current affairs. Despite a vigorous publicity campaign by the CEO, these cost-cutting measures severely damaged morale at the network. [1] On one program, McGuire&#039;s required job-cuts exceeded the actual number of employees, raising questions in both the media and within Channel 9 itself about the competence of Nine&#039;s executives. [2]

The troubles worsened when an affidavit written by a Channel Nine executive affected by the purges was leaked to the press, and Nine failed in its attempts to suppress it (download the Mark Llewellyn affidavit). It contained damaging allegations regarding McGuire&#039;s treatment of employees. The document&#039;s author, Mark Llewellyn (previous head of news and current affairs who has since defected to Channel 7), claimed that McGuire and his lieutenant had told him that he would be forced to &quot;eat a shit sandwich&quot; (accept a dramatic pay-cut). He also recalled conversations with McGuire where the CEO had spoken of wanting to &quot;bone&quot; (sack) Jessica Rowe, host of the network&#039;s Today show. Following these allegations, McGuire was forced to guarantee Rowe her position on the program.[3] McGuire has strongly denied the allegations.

Subsequent to the drama over Rowe, McGuire has been accused of &#039;white-anting&#039; one of the Nine Network&#039;s most high-profile journalists, Jana Wendt. It has been suggested that the CEO was behind leaks to the press that revealed Wendt&#039;s imminent replacement by another Nine employee. Channel Nine sources have revealed to the press that morale has further plummeted at the network as a result of the ongoing controversy.

On 1 September 2006, it was announced that Nine had lost Wendt, despite McGuire&#039;s earlier claims that he would ensure she stayed at the network, though not as presenter of Sunday. Wendt&#039;s move also contradicted reports in some media citing Nine sources who had suggested the high-profile journalist would return to 60 Minutes.

McGuire&#039;s decision to force Wendt off the Sunday program backfired with the relaunch of the show on 3 September 2006, as the Nine Network&#039;s switchboard was flooded with an unprecedented number of calls complaining about the show&#039;s new format and hosts. [4]

This episode was considered by many in the media as a failure by the &#039;P-plated CEO&#039; (a term coined by Sydney tabloids) to manage the network in a professional and ethical manner. It has also fuelled speculation as to his longevity in his position as CEO of Nine. [5] Moreover, his well-honed &#039;good guy&#039; image has been irretrievably tarnished, making a return to on-air duties unlikely.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is Ms Rowe.

She&#039;s the host of the Today Show.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.saxton.com.au/saxton_db_data/images/Rowe_Jessica.jpg&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yobsville FNQ would only have a high GDP because it happens to be built over minerals in the ground.</p>
<p>Anyway, steve, the Wikipedia entry on &#8220;Edward Joseph &#8220;Eddie&#8221; McGuire AM&#8221; tells the story:</p>
<blockquote><p>McGuire&#8217;s career as CEO has been marred by controversy. Before leaving for the costly Munich edition of The Footy Show, he announced the elimination of 100 jobs, most in news and current affairs. Despite a vigorous publicity campaign by the CEO, these cost-cutting measures severely damaged morale at the network. [1] On one program, McGuire&#8217;s required job-cuts exceeded the actual number of employees, raising questions in both the media and within Channel 9 itself about the competence of Nine&#8217;s executives. [2]</p>
<p>The troubles worsened when an affidavit written by a Channel Nine executive affected by the purges was leaked to the press, and Nine failed in its attempts to suppress it (download the Mark Llewellyn affidavit). It contained damaging allegations regarding McGuire&#8217;s treatment of employees. The document&#8217;s author, Mark Llewellyn (previous head of news and current affairs who has since defected to Channel 7), claimed that McGuire and his lieutenant had told him that he would be forced to &#8220;eat a shit sandwich&#8221; (accept a dramatic pay-cut). He also recalled conversations with McGuire where the CEO had spoken of wanting to &#8220;bone&#8221; (sack) Jessica Rowe, host of the network&#8217;s Today show. Following these allegations, McGuire was forced to guarantee Rowe her position on the program.[3] McGuire has strongly denied the allegations.</p>
<p>Subsequent to the drama over Rowe, McGuire has been accused of &#8216;white-anting&#8217; one of the Nine Network&#8217;s most high-profile journalists, Jana Wendt. It has been suggested that the CEO was behind leaks to the press that revealed Wendt&#8217;s imminent replacement by another Nine employee. Channel Nine sources have revealed to the press that morale has further plummeted at the network as a result of the ongoing controversy.</p>
<p>On 1 September 2006, it was announced that Nine had lost Wendt, despite McGuire&#8217;s earlier claims that he would ensure she stayed at the network, though not as presenter of Sunday. Wendt&#8217;s move also contradicted reports in some media citing Nine sources who had suggested the high-profile journalist would return to 60 Minutes.</p>
<p>McGuire&#8217;s decision to force Wendt off the Sunday program backfired with the relaunch of the show on 3 September 2006, as the Nine Network&#8217;s switchboard was flooded with an unprecedented number of calls complaining about the show&#8217;s new format and hosts. [4]</p>
<p>This episode was considered by many in the media as a failure by the &#8216;P-plated CEO&#8217; (a term coined by Sydney tabloids) to manage the network in a professional and ethical manner. It has also fuelled speculation as to his longevity in his position as CEO of Nine. [5] Moreover, his well-honed &#8216;good guy&#8217; image has been irretrievably tarnished, making a return to on-air duties unlikely.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is Ms Rowe.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s the host of the Today Show.</p>
<p>&lt;img src=&quot;<a href="http://www.saxton.com.au/saxton_db_data/images/Rowe_Jessica.jpg&#038;quot" rel="nofollow">http://www.saxton.com.au/saxton_db_data/images/Rowe_Jessica.jpg&#038;quot</a>;</p>
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		<title>By: zoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>zoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are people who NEVER pay attention to current affairs &amp; news, &amp; quite a lot of them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And most of them don&#039;t post comments here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are people who NEVER pay attention to current affairs &amp; news, &amp; quite a lot of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>And most of them don&#8217;t post comments here.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo, no need to apologise for being rude, you don&#039;t mean it (apology) and you aren&#039;t well rounded enough to appreciate diversity.

I don&#039;t mean to be rude, but I have never linked to crikey, or anything else from this site.  No offence, but how does it feel with your head stuck up there &amp; no batteries for the torch?

The population of Yobsville FNQ is less than one third of the suburb of Latteview, Melbourne, but the GDP of Yobsville is four times.  Hmmmm.....

Sydney Metro radio, is of course, completely unknown here.  One of the fringe benefits of living in Yobsville!

Richmond, I can&#039;t find that in the NRL table, perhaps they are a badminton team or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo, no need to apologise for being rude, you don&#8217;t mean it (apology) and you aren&#8217;t well rounded enough to appreciate diversity.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be rude, but I have never linked to crikey, or anything else from this site.  No offence, but how does it feel with your head stuck up there &amp; no batteries for the torch?</p>
<p>The population of Yobsville FNQ is less than one third of the suburb of Latteview, Melbourne, but the GDP of Yobsville is four times.  Hmmmm&#8230;..</p>
<p>Sydney Metro radio, is of course, completely unknown here.  One of the fringe benefits of living in Yobsville!</p>
<p>Richmond, I can&#8217;t find that in the NRL table, perhaps they are a badminton team or something?</p>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SATP, sorry for being rude, Steven Mayne set up crikey.com.au which no doubt you have linked to, from this site. He was a staffer for Kennett, who went public with the Quandong (or some fucking thing) share scandal, getting towards the end of Kennett years.

I think he ran against Jeff in his state seat (??) and started standing for board elections and doing lots of shareholder stuff around corporate governance etc and then set up crikey - which is another whole story.

he barracks for richmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SATP, sorry for being rude, Steven Mayne set up crikey.com.au which no doubt you have linked to, from this site. He was a staffer for Kennett, who went public with the Quandong (or some fucking thing) share scandal, getting towards the end of Kennett years.</p>
<p>I think he ran against Jeff in his state seat (??) and started standing for board elections and doing lots of shareholder stuff around corporate governance etc and then set up crikey &#8211; which is another whole story.</p>
<p>he barracks for richmond.</p>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SATP, Steven Mayne was joining Virginia Trioli on 702 ABC Radio (Sydney metro) after AM, every week until he declared himself a candidate in the Vic State elections. Their audience share for October 2006 as per the neilsen ratings is close to 700K

no offence, but the population of Yobsville, FNQ is what again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SATP, Steven Mayne was joining Virginia Trioli on 702 ABC Radio (Sydney metro) after AM, every week until he declared himself a candidate in the Vic State elections. Their audience share for October 2006 as per the neilsen ratings is close to 700K</p>
<p>no offence, but the population of Yobsville, FNQ is what again?</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A male boss said he wanted to &quot;bone&quot; a blonde female subordinate, and everybody thought he meant she was dismissed from employment?  No wonder there is severe community reservations about journalistic common sense......

Er.. thanks Mark, for the update on media trade jargon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A male boss said he wanted to &#8220;bone&#8221; a blonde female subordinate, and everybody thought he meant she was dismissed from employment?  No wonder there is severe community reservations about journalistic common sense&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Er.. thanks Mark, for the update on media trade jargon.</p>
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