Comments on: Time to shoot down the bomber http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:46:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Gummo Trotsky http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287642 Gummo Trotsky Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:17:55 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287642 Time to close this thread. I suggest any further comments on the byzantine workings of ALP internal politics be posted <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/04/its-rudd-gillard/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Time to close this thread.

I suggest any further comments on the byzantine workings of ALP internal politics be posted here.

]]> By: David Jackmanson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287641 David Jackmanson Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:11:29 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287641 Zoe, I heard Byrne say Thursday live on NewsRadio...the media <i>did</i> report over the weekend that postponing the spill till tomorrow was the original plan. I guess the Australian assumed that if Rudd won, the Tues option would be followed, and did not wait to hear what Byrne said. Presumably most of the article you linked to was pre-written. I have saved a screenhot of the article in case they change it later without admitting it :) Zoe, I heard Byrne say Thursday live on NewsRadio…the media did report over the weekend that postponing the spill till tomorrow was the original plan.

I guess the Australian assumed that if Rudd won, the Tues option would be followed, and did not wait to hear what Byrne said. Presumably most of the article you linked to was pre-written.

I have saved a screenhot of the article in case they change it later without admitting it :)

]]> By: Theodric http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287640 Theodric Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:03:55 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287640 KEVIN Rudd is Labor's new leader, after winning a caucus vote by 10 votes. He beat Kim Beazley by 49 votes to 39. The result was confirmed after a party room meeting this morning. Julia Gillard has been elected deputy unopposed. Hours before the ballot, Mr Rudd declared he was happy to leave his future in his colleagues' hands as he strode into Parliament. Mr Rudd and running mate Julia Gillard spent the weekend working the phones to secure the crucial 45 caucus votes needed to snatch victory from incumbent leader Kim Beazley and his deputy Jenny Macklin. "Today is called a reality check and we are more than happy to put our future in our colleagues' hands," a croaky voiced Mr Rudd told reporters this morning, before the vote Asked about his voice, Mr Rudd said: "If you spend the last three days on the telephone non-stop, that's what happens to your voice." The ambitious Ms Gillard, who has taken a very determined back seat to Mr Rudd this weekend, only said: "I'm feeling good thank you". KEVIN Rudd is Labor’s new leader, after winning a caucus vote by 10 votes. He beat Kim Beazley by 49 votes to 39. The result was confirmed after a party room meeting this morning.

Julia Gillard has been elected deputy unopposed.

Hours before the ballot, Mr Rudd declared he was happy to leave his future in his colleagues’ hands as he strode into Parliament.

Mr Rudd and running mate Julia Gillard spent the weekend working the phones to secure the crucial 45 caucus votes needed to snatch victory from incumbent leader Kim Beazley and his deputy Jenny Macklin.

“Today is called a reality check and we are more than happy to put our future in our colleagues’ hands,” a croaky voiced Mr Rudd told reporters this morning, before the vote

Asked about his voice, Mr Rudd said: “If you spend the last three days on the telephone non-stop, that’s what happens to your voice.”

The ambitious Ms Gillard, who has taken a very determined back seat to Mr Rudd this weekend, only said: “I’m feeling good thank you”.

]]> By: Zoe http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287639 Zoe Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:59:16 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287639 Or perhaps not - <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20867185-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">Australian</a> now saying front bench will be decided at tomorrow's (ordinary) caucus meeting. Or perhaps not – Australian now saying front bench will be decided at tomorrow’s (ordinary) caucus meeting.

]]> By: Zoe http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287638 Zoe Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:57:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287638 David, perhaps some explanation in <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20864881-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">Milne's column</a> this morning. David, perhaps some explanation in Milne’s column this morning.

]]> By: David Jackmanson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287637 David Jackmanson Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:57:01 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287637 Anthony Byrne, Caucus returning officer, via News Radio: Rudd 49 d Beazley 39 Gillard only nomination for Deputy. Frontbench spill on Thursday, current frontbench to remain till then. Unsure what happens to Beazley between now and then - does he get to keep frontbench status? We'll know by Question Time at the latest. Senate: Evans unopposed for leader Conroy unopposed for deputy leader Anthony Byrne, Caucus returning officer, via News Radio:

Rudd 49 d Beazley 39

Gillard only nomination for Deputy.

Frontbench spill on Thursday, current frontbench to remain till then. Unsure what happens to Beazley between now and then – does he get to keep frontbench status? We’ll know by Question Time at the latest.

Senate:

Evans unopposed for leader
Conroy unopposed for deputy leader

]]> By: David Jackmanson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287636 David Jackmanson Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:52:17 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287636 ABC reporter Brissenden pointing out that 50 minutes is a long time, especially if the vote is indeed 49-39. Perhaps a lot of procedural manouevering in the first 20-25 minutes? ABC reporter Brissenden pointing out that 50 minutes is a long time, especially if the vote is indeed 49-39. Perhaps a lot of procedural manouevering in the first 20-25 minutes?

]]> By: David Jackmanson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287635 David Jackmanson Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:49:46 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287635 NewsRadio is also reporting an 'unofficial' result: a Rudd victory without numbers Hang on, someone just cut in with the 49-39 figure. Of interest: result for Deputy? Same margin or different? What about Senate leader and deputy? Will Rudd's forces unite to postpone the frontbench ballot till tomorrow? NewsRadio is also reporting an ‘unofficial’ result: a Rudd victory without numbers

Hang on, someone just cut in with the 49-39 figure.

Of interest:

result for Deputy? Same margin or different? What about Senate leader and deputy?

Will Rudd’s forces unite to postpone the frontbench ballot till tomorrow?

]]> By: Mungo Amanda http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287634 Mungo Amanda Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:42:19 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287634 Sky says its Rudd 49-39 Sky says its Rudd 49-39

]]> By: Gummo Trotsky http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287633 Gummo Trotsky Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:41:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/03/time-to-shoot-down-the-bomber/#comment-287633 Trenton, Why assume that Rudd/Gillard is taking primary votes only from the Greens? That's a silly assumption, based on a set of equally silly assumptions (and maybe attitudes) - like that the left of the ALP is going Green and good riddance to them. One place where first preferences are going to count a lot, in the next election, is the Senate. A higher primary vote for Labor there translates into more quotas filled on first preferences, hence more seats. And maybe next time round, the twonks who put Steve Fielding into the Senate on Labor preferences they couldn't bear to see go to the Greens will get it right, so the Senate actually functions as a House of Review again. Trenton,

Why assume that Rudd/Gillard is taking primary votes only from the Greens? That’s a silly assumption, based on a set of equally silly assumptions (and maybe attitudes) – like that the left of the ALP is going Green and good riddance to them.

One place where first preferences are going to count a lot, in the next election, is the Senate. A higher primary vote for Labor there translates into more quotas filled on first preferences, hence more seats. And maybe next time round, the twonks who put Steve Fielding into the Senate on Labor preferences they couldn’t bear to see go to the Greens will get it right, so the Senate actually functions as a House of Review again.

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