Comments on: The new op/edders? http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:16:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290126 Mark Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:19:02 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290126 I've often wondered if The Australian really had much of a market among those who agree with its insane campaigns and extreme perspectives. But I suspect its influence lies much more in the degree to which its perspectives feed back into politicians' ideas and statements than its readership. Just as with aspects of the Packer empire, it would be interesting to see whether post Rupert, News Corp wants to keep running with what one imagines as time goes by will be less and less of a commercial proposition. I’ve often wondered if The Australian really had much of a market among those who agree with its insane campaigns and extreme perspectives. But I suspect its influence lies much more in the degree to which its perspectives feed back into politicians’ ideas and statements than its readership. Just as with aspects of the Packer empire, it would be interesting to see whether post Rupert, News Corp wants to keep running with what one imagines as time goes by will be less and less of a commercial proposition.

]]> By: SJ http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290125 SJ Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:55:41 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290125 Also, something that's been bugging me for some time. According to the survey, 2% of people turn first to blogs for news. Amonst the Australian blogs that I read, quite a lot of bandwidth is spent on refuting the latest stupid editorial in "The Australian". But only 0.67% of Australians buy "The Australian". A lot of people who buy the Australian only do so on Tuesdays for the job ads, and I wouldn't be surprised if half of the rest only bought copies so they could find fodder for blog posts. Also, something that’s been bugging me for some time.

According to the survey, 2% of people turn first to blogs for news. Amonst the Australian blogs that I read, quite a lot of bandwidth is spent on refuting the latest stupid editorial in “The Australian”. But only 0.67% of Australians buy “The Australian”.

A lot of people who buy the Australian only do so on Tuesdays for the job ads, and I wouldn’t be surprised if half of the rest only bought copies so they could find fodder for blog posts.

]]> By: Shaun http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290124 Shaun Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:46:23 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290124 <a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/armour_of_mateship_to_protect_our_nation/#commentsmore" rel="nofollow">Piers Akerman</a> was born for blogging. He loves the stoush. Here are a few <a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/armour_of_mateship_to_protect_our_nation/#commentsmore" rel="nofollow">responses of his</a> to comments: <blockquote> Crap. There are examples of cultures globally that show no compassion for the weak. Try the largest population on earth. </blockquote> <blockquote>Get real, numbskull, this has been in the works since Rudd was wearing shorts. Oops, longer than last year.</blockquote> <blockquote>I don’t have to waste a minute demonising idiots like you. I just make sure your words are presented as they are written and readers can make their own minds up.</blockquote> <blockquote>Hicks was alienated from his family and he wanted to murder people he had never met - if they weren’t Muslims. What he could teach anyone about mateship is beyond me. Spare me your stupidity.</blockquote> <blockquote>Listen up, dopey - I’m merely quoting what he said. You don’t think you he should be taken at his word? You’re telling me Hicks is a liar? He is untrustworthy? Why are you so eager to brand him as such? I’m just taking him as HE presents HIMSELF. That’s what we do in the free world. </blockquote> Piers Akerman was born for blogging. He loves the stoush. Here are a few responses of his to comments:

Crap. There are examples of cultures globally that show no compassion for the weak. Try the largest population on earth.

Get real, numbskull, this has been in the works since Rudd was wearing shorts. Oops, longer than last year.

I don’t have to waste a minute demonising idiots like you. I just make sure your words are presented as they are written and readers can make their own minds up.

Hicks was alienated from his family and he wanted to murder people he had never met – if they weren’t Muslims. What he could teach anyone about mateship is beyond me. Spare me your stupidity.

Listen up, dopey – I’m merely quoting what he said. You don’t think you he should be taken at his word? You’re telling me Hicks is a liar? He is untrustworthy? Why are you so eager to brand him as such? I’m just taking him as HE presents HIMSELF. That’s what we do in the free world.

]]> By: adam pearson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290123 adam pearson Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:25:46 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290123 "<em>I think what blogs do at their best .... is provide informed and intelligent views political commentary.</em>.." Exactly. That is why I read blogs, to seek out some genuine insight into what is going on rather than rely in what is served up to me. “I think what blogs do at their best …. is provide informed and intelligent views political commentary...”

Exactly. That is why I read blogs, to seek out some genuine insight into what is going on rather than rely in what is served up to me.

]]> By: SJ http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290122 SJ Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:05:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290122 “government sourcesâ€? <b>or</b> “sources within the oppositionâ€?. “government sourcesâ€? or “sources within the oppositionâ€?.

]]> By: SJ http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290121 SJ Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:02:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/12/18/the-new-opedders/#comment-290121 Mark, you've got a broken link: <i>As suz suggested in her post on the MSM</i>. The link refers back to this (your) entry. The blogs are becoming a real alternative to the established print media. What do the SMH, Daily Telegraph, Australian, Courier Mail, etc. mostly run? Exactly the same stories sourced from AP or AAP. Add in to that a bit of "OpEd" stuff from people with known biases, and you've got your basic blog capability. All that the big papers have left is a bit of muckraking capability, in that they can get whispers from "government sources" of "sources within the opposition". And of course, in the economics, science and technology areas, blogs have it all over the newspapers - better qualified people who don't have to fit the stories into a framework that some editor thinks Murdoch might be more comfortable with. <em>Link fixed - AW</em> Mark, you’ve got a broken link: As suz suggested in her post on the MSM. The link refers back to this (your) entry.

The blogs are becoming a real alternative to the established print media.

What do the SMH, Daily Telegraph, Australian, Courier Mail, etc. mostly run? Exactly the same stories sourced from AP or AAP. Add in to that a bit of “OpEd” stuff from people with known biases, and you’ve got your basic blog capability.

All that the big papers have left is a bit of muckraking capability, in that they can get whispers from “government sources” of “sources within the opposition”.

And of course, in the economics, science and technology areas, blogs have it all over the newspapers – better qualified people who don’t have to fit the stories into a framework that some editor thinks Murdoch might be more comfortable with.

Link fixed – AW

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