Comments on: Not happy, Abbott http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:50:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jade http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282603 Jade Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:41:01 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282603 Although abortion provides complicated issues, I think there is a more difficult issue that society rarely discusses. The IVF programme is technologically driven, without proper concern for the social implications for the child and the families, and friends, involved. The donation of an egg to an otherwise infertile mother has ramifications at a social level for all involved. There may be some success stories, but they would surely be in the minority, if there are any successes at all. The ones I have encountered are major disasters. Although abortion provides complicated issues, I think there is a more difficult issue that society rarely discusses.

The IVF programme is technologically driven, without proper concern for the social implications for the child and the families, and friends, involved. The donation of an egg to an otherwise infertile mother has ramifications at a social level for all involved. There may be some success stories, but they would surely be in the minority, if there are any successes at all. The ones I have encountered are major disasters.

]]> By: Jade http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282602 Jade Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:16:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282602 That may be true, but it does not follow that life begins at conception. egg sperm - human being simply does not mean anything. Fertilized single cell is simply not a human anymore that a sperm or an egg is a human. And it is certainly possible to produce a human from the egg only. Life does not begin at conception. Now you may be for abortion, you may be against it - there are very good arguments on both sides But you statement does not mean anything. That may be true, but it does not follow that life begins at conception.

egg sperm – human being simply does not mean anything.

Fertilized single cell is simply not a human anymore that a sperm or an egg is a human. And it is certainly possible to produce a human from the egg only.

Life does not begin at conception.

Now you may be for abortion, you may be against it – there are very good arguments on both sides

But you statement does not mean anything.

]]> By: ausblog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282601 ausblog Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:10:17 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282601 egg plus sperm = human being egg plus sperm = human being

]]> By: ausblog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282600 ausblog Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:08:09 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282600 egg sperm =human being egg sperm =human being

]]> By: ausblog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282599 ausblog Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:06:27 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282599 Mary, all the "what if's" are irrelevant, facts are you were conceived,your mother carried you and you were born, aren't you glad of that? Jade, egg sperm = human being. Mary,
all the “what if’s” are irrelevant, facts are you were conceived,your mother carried you and you were born,
aren’t you glad of that?

Jade,
egg sperm = human being.

]]> By: Jade http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282598 Jade Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:53:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282598 I understand that up until recently it was assault in NSW. However, I recall (and I may be mistaken) that the Law was changed as a result of a dangerous driving charge in which a women lost he unborn child. I understand that up until recently it was assault in NSW. However, I recall (and I may be mistaken) that the Law was changed as a result of a dangerous driving charge in which a women lost he unborn child.

]]> By: ausblog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282597 ausblog Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:49:11 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282597 Last question - What does the law say in relation to a man that assults his partner by repetedly punching her in the abdomen,causing a miscariage because she wouldn't have an abortion? Surely more than just a common assult on the said partner. Last question -

What does the law say in relation to a man that assults his partner by repetedly punching her in the abdomen,causing a miscariage because she wouldn’t have an abortion?
Surely more than just a common assult on the said partner.

]]> By: Jade http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282596 Jade Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:47:02 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282596 I think she has an onus to discuss it with him, and if there is disagreement seek a mediator. But in the end, it is the woman's choice. I think she has an onus to discuss it with him, and if there is disagreement seek a mediator. But in the end, it is the woman’s choice.

]]> By: ausblog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282595 ausblog Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:37:52 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282595 Question, should a woman be able to have an abortion when her partner doesn't want her to. Question,
should a woman be able to have an abortion when her partner doesn’t want her to.

]]> By: Jade http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282594 Jade Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:03:41 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/02/not-happy-abbott/#comment-282594 I would have thought that those who argue that life begins at conception have a major logical problem on their hands. Are not both the sperm and the egg alive! I would have thought that those who argue that life begins at conception have a major logical problem on their hands. Are not both the sperm and the egg alive!

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