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	<title>Comments on: This Is A Disgrace</title>
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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284178</link>
		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 07:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such is the nature of Catholic &quot;morality&quot; that it involves advocating the breaking of state and federal laws. This is treasonous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such is the nature of Catholic &#8220;morality&#8221; that it involves advocating the breaking of state and federal laws. This is treasonous.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284177</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s a bit late to just declare the Catholic Church immoral Silkworm because all sorts of other churches and their offshoots have also been nobbled,quietened and corrupted by truckloads of money from various Governments over many years.

On the basis that the one who pays the piper calls the tune then by choosing to do the Government&#039;s dirty work which either the Government itself could be doing or independent community groups, the Church groups  show that Mammon is greater than their God.

Here in Brisbane there have been a series of thirty odd sexual assualts on the North side of Brisbane and not a single arrest, the anti PC brigade must be proud of what their rollback is producing.  Immorality has spread way past the Catholic Church and society is seemingly unable to cope with the fallout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s a bit late to just declare the Catholic Church immoral Silkworm because all sorts of other churches and their offshoots have also been nobbled,quietened and corrupted by truckloads of money from various Governments over many years.</p>
<p>On the basis that the one who pays the piper calls the tune then by choosing to do the Government&#8217;s dirty work which either the Government itself could be doing or independent community groups, the Church groups  show that Mammon is greater than their God.</p>
<p>Here in Brisbane there have been a series of thirty odd sexual assualts on the North side of Brisbane and not a single arrest, the anti PC brigade must be proud of what their rollback is producing.  Immorality has spread way past the Catholic Church and society is seemingly unable to cope with the fallout.</p>
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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284176</link>
		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Catholic Church is an immoral institution. I call on all Catholics to renounce their faith here as a sign of protest.</description>
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		<title>By: noncatholicdr</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284175</link>
		<dc:creator>noncatholicdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, I missed cowgirl - my apologies to the sublime one.

I&#039;ll be quite upfront, I just don&#039;t want to comment on the &quot;Ashley Treatment&quot;. The whole thing would be one big rant against everyone, which is just angry and boring.

I didn&#039;t even know there were Catholic public hospitals on t&#039;other side. That sounds like a ripe opportunity for a bit of civil disobedience and some test cases, to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, I missed cowgirl &#8211; my apologies to the sublime one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be quite upfront, I just don&#8217;t want to comment on the &#8220;Ashley Treatment&#8221;. The whole thing would be one big rant against everyone, which is just angry and boring.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even know there were Catholic public hospitals on t&#8217;other side. That sounds like a ripe opportunity for a bit of civil disobedience and some test cases, to me.</p>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284174</link>
		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>noncatholicdr - most thanks to the gracious AND sublime cowgirl (her post @ 5.20pm)

but i&#039;ll third the suggestion to hang around and provide a medico perspective (and all your non-medico perspectives..)

in respect of ashley x - i&#039;d be interested to read what you have thought about the case - the thread in case you missed it:
http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/05/discussion-post/

and also some more about this topic  - i&#039;m still getting my head around that catholic public hospitals wont be referring patients to state public hospitals....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>noncatholicdr &#8211; most thanks to the gracious AND sublime cowgirl (her post @ 5.20pm)</p>
<p>but i&#8217;ll third the suggestion to hang around and provide a medico perspective (and all your non-medico perspectives..)</p>
<p>in respect of ashley x &#8211; i&#8217;d be interested to read what you have thought about the case &#8211; the thread in case you missed it:<br />
<a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/05/discussion-post/" rel="nofollow">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/05/discussion-post/</a></p>
<p>and also some more about this topic  &#8211; i&#8217;m still getting my head around that catholic public hospitals wont be referring patients to state public hospitals&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: professor rat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284173</link>
		<dc:creator>professor rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is whats wrong with appeasment - the Alternative Liberal Party gave it all up on state aid and now they&#039;re over the fucking barrel. And with the present pious, preachy and more holier-than-thou Saint Kevin in charge youse better be prepared to take it up the rectory indefinitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is whats wrong with appeasment &#8211; the Alternative Liberal Party gave it all up on state aid and now they&#8217;re over the fucking barrel. And with the present pious, preachy and more holier-than-thou Saint Kevin in charge youse better be prepared to take it up the rectory indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: noncatholicdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>noncatholicdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the welcome, Mark and jo. I&#039;ve been reading here for a while, having been referred by my imaginary friend tigtog. I might join in more, but choose a new moniker (I don&#039;t usually do the &quot;dr&quot; thing, it was just relevant in this particular case).

The Ashley thing? As a feminist and a person with a disability, and as a Dr? Ha. Every side of the debate that I&#039;ve read has been problematic. The language, the victim-blaming, the appalling lack of support and aids, the blithe assumptions all round - gah. I wouldn&#039;t know where to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the welcome, Mark and jo. I&#8217;ve been reading here for a while, having been referred by my imaginary friend tigtog. I might join in more, but choose a new moniker (I don&#8217;t usually do the &#8220;dr&#8221; thing, it was just relevant in this particular case).</p>
<p>The Ashley thing? As a feminist and a person with a disability, and as a Dr? Ha. Every side of the debate that I&#8217;ve read has been problematic. The language, the victim-blaming, the appalling lack of support and aids, the blithe assumptions all round &#8211; gah. I wouldn&#8217;t know where to start.</p>
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		<title>By: crankynick</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284171</link>
		<dc:creator>crankynick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d concur. Catholics tend to reserve their reservations for the uses of science more than pointless denial of the theories and evidence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, I think the Galileo thing was such a monumental cock-up that they&#039;ve stayed away from arguing about meat and veg of the scientific evidence since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’d concur. Catholics tend to reserve their reservations for the uses of science more than pointless denial of the theories and evidence.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I think the Galileo thing was such a monumental cock-up that they&#8217;ve stayed away from arguing about meat and veg of the scientific evidence since then.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284170</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, let me know when the child infestation subsides, sg, though I wouldn&#039;t wish Madonna on them, but if Angelina sees sense and gets divorced :)

Suggestion to Noncatholicdr seconded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, let me know when the child infestation subsides, sg, though I wouldn&#8217;t wish Madonna on them, but if Angelina sees sense and gets divorced <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Suggestion to Noncatholicdr seconded.</p>
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		<title>By: sublime cowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/this-is-a-disgrace/#comment-284169</link>
		<dc:creator>sublime cowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 07:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>k..there&#039;s no petrol in the can so no whipper-snipping for me today, but mark, do come over for a swim and a drink soon - though i caution against the next day or two as there appears to be a rather serious child infestation at present.

(The majority of them will be humanely captured and re-homed shortly, i&#039;ll keep the two cutest ones, and any left overs can go to Madonna or Angelina).

Noncatholicdr do stick around a bit more, we need more informed medical perspective esp around threads such as the Discussion Post one earlier this week (Ashley X).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k..there&#8217;s no petrol in the can so no whipper-snipping for me today, but mark, do come over for a swim and a drink soon &#8211; though i caution against the next day or two as there appears to be a rather serious child infestation at present.</p>
<p>(The majority of them will be humanely captured and re-homed shortly, i&#8217;ll keep the two cutest ones, and any left overs can go to Madonna or Angelina).</p>
<p>Noncatholicdr do stick around a bit more, we need more informed medical perspective esp around threads such as the Discussion Post one earlier this week (Ashley X).</p>
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