Comments on: Waiting for the accountability moment http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:23:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: derrida derider http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284420 derrida derider Mon, 15 Jan 2007 06:37:09 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284420 <i>Rudd will not go for the cheap shot. And IMHO, nor should he.</i> - wpd Wrong, wrong, wrong - Rudd and his followers have to realise he is Opposition Leader, not an Ambassador or Departmental Secretary. A good opposition leader doesn't miss the chance of a telling shot, cheap or otherwise. Can you imagine the use Keating would have made of all this? Or Gough? Or Costello? Even Latham, with the advantage of being dead right both publicly and privately (unlike Beazley and Rudd) on the issue from the start, would have landed blows. And the government's performance on this issue really has been material for a cruel lampooning. It's something that doesn't come easy for Rudd the natural bureaucrat, but if he wants to become PM he should learn how to - fast. It's a weakness of democracy that the best natural PMs aren't the best natural opposition leaders and vice versa. The former requires the attributes of a judge, the latter of a barrister. Rudd will not go for the cheap shot. And IMHO, nor should he. – wpd

Wrong, wrong, wrong – Rudd and his followers have to realise he is Opposition Leader, not an Ambassador or Departmental Secretary. A good opposition leader doesn’t miss the chance of a telling shot, cheap or otherwise. Can you imagine the use Keating would have made of all this? Or Gough? Or Costello? Even Latham, with the advantage of being dead right both publicly and privately (unlike Beazley and Rudd) on the issue from the start, would have landed blows.

And the government’s performance on this issue really has been material for a cruel lampooning. It’s something that doesn’t come easy for Rudd the natural bureaucrat, but if he wants to become PM he should learn how to – fast.

It’s a weakness of democracy that the best natural PMs aren’t the best natural opposition leaders and vice versa. The former requires the attributes of a judge, the latter of a barrister.

]]> By: Pavlov's Cat http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284419 Pavlov's Cat Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:56:50 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284419 Good going, Nabs -- flushed out a completely different (and much more endearing) breed of bird, and with a throwaway aside, too. A more entertaining (and much more coherent) exchange ensued than anything you would have got out of Teh Bird, but why has no-one mentioned <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Gadd" rel="nofollow">Steve Gadd</a>? Obs: I think you need to look up the word 'axis'. Good going, Nabs — flushed out a completely different (and much more endearing) breed of bird, and with a throwaway aside, too. A more entertaining (and much more coherent) exchange ensued than anything you would have got out of Teh Bird, but why has no-one mentioned Steve Gadd?

Obs: I think you need to look up the word ‘axis’.

]]> By: Bernice http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284418 Bernice Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:50:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284418 But what continues to astonish is Downer's blithering about the Dem ascendancy keeping its fingers out of Iraq planning - has the fool failed to notice that these people will be chairing every House Committee that will be deciding US policies for at least the next six years? That Bush is being deserted by his own rats in a swarm of self-preserving terror? The accountability the Aust electorate can correctly call Howard & Co for is their stubborn, stupid refusal to shut up and quietly, diplomatically sit on the sidelines, until such time as the political landscape is clear - but instead, their continued playground buddy routine with Bush renders them ridiculous in the international community, and ensures that Aust relations with the US, certainly post Bush, will be difficult, and given to a certain vindictiveness. Just watch what the Ag House Committee does with the AWB. & I suspect Aust car exports to the US are suddenly going to have some compliance issues, say in the emissions area that haven't applied before. If Rudd was looking for anything to hang his Iraqi creds on - taking a neutral, thoughtful non-aligned possie over US foreign policy would be a bloody good start. Howard & Downer have left themselves very very vulnerable. But what continues to astonish is Downer’s blithering about the Dem ascendancy keeping its fingers out of Iraq planning – has the fool failed to notice that these people will be chairing every House Committee that will be deciding US policies for at least the next six years? That Bush is being deserted by his own rats in a swarm of self-preserving terror? The accountability the Aust electorate can correctly call Howard & Co for is their stubborn, stupid refusal to shut up and quietly, diplomatically sit on the sidelines, until such time as the political landscape is clear – but instead, their continued playground buddy routine with Bush renders them ridiculous in the international community, and ensures that Aust relations with the US, certainly post Bush, will be difficult, and given to a certain vindictiveness. Just watch what the Ag House Committee does with the AWB. & I suspect Aust car exports to the US are suddenly going to have some compliance issues, say in the emissions area that haven’t applied before.
If Rudd was looking for anything to hang his Iraqi creds on – taking a neutral, thoughtful non-aligned possie over US foreign policy would be a bloody good start. Howard & Downer have left themselves very very vulnerable.

]]> By: jo http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284417 jo Sat, 13 Jan 2007 04:12:33 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284417 Is it tomorrow, or just the end of time? 'Scuse me, while I kiss the lambsbreath mon, with my man, mitch. hello!! sly & robbie, like a stepping razor, they're dangerous. Is it tomorrow, or just the end of time?
‘Scuse me, while I kiss the lambsbreath mon, with my man, mitch. hello!!
sly & robbie, like a stepping razor, they’re dangerous.

]]> By: Nabakov http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284416 Nabakov Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:12:32 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284416 Just go jpz to first link I proffered above and download Sly and Robbie's version of "We Are Family" and listen to that utterly crisp yet funky drumbeat. Kinda like Charlie Watts if he was black on the outside too. Or alternately play "Pull Up To The Bumper" LOUD! That's Robbie's brillant bass solo in the middle eight, nailed down by Sly's crispy funky sticks. Just go jpz to first link I proffered above and download Sly and Robbie’s version of “We Are Family” and listen to that utterly crisp yet funky drumbeat. Kinda like Charlie Watts if he was black on the outside too.

Or alternately play “Pull Up To The Bumper” LOUD! That’s Robbie’s brillant bass solo in the middle eight, nailed down by Sly’s crispy funky sticks.

]]> By: nabakov http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284415 nabakov Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:52:23 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284415 "You are speaking, I presume, of Mister Aynsley?" Fuck no - Sly ain't no caspar. Talking 'bout him a half of the riddim twins. http://slyrob.3va.net/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sly_Dunbar You may recall Miss Grace Jones pulling up to the bumper in her long black limousine. Sly and Robbie were the engine and gearbox for that one - as they were for the several Grace Jones waxings they found the time to work on in between Bob Marley and Bob Dylan. And then they fuckin all dat wid their own shit going 2. Some of which does not settle well on my own palate but there's not doubting mon that Sly and Robbie are simply an A1 shit hot motherfucking rhythm cruise crew for all time. “You are speaking, I presume, of Mister Aynsley?”

Fuck no – Sly ain’t no caspar.

Talking ’bout him a half of the riddim twins.
http://slyrob.3va.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sly_Dunbar

You may recall Miss Grace Jones pulling up to the bumper in her long black limousine. Sly and Robbie were the engine and gearbox for that one – as they were for the several Grace Jones waxings they found the time to work on in between Bob Marley and Bob Dylan.

And then they fuckin all dat wid their own shit going 2. Some of which does not settle well on my own palate but there’s not doubting mon that Sly and Robbie are simply an A1 shit hot motherfucking rhythm cruise crew for all time.

]]> By: j_p_z http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284414 j_p_z Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:00:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284414 Nabakov -- that's quite a prose-poem in praise of Mo. Robert Creeley and Su Tung-p'o would be green with envy. "Sly Dunbar belongs in another conversation altogther." You are speaking, I presume, of Mister Aynsley? FLO & EDDIE: Some men say he could DANCE! ZAPPA: They said he could dance, And of course, they were right. Ladies and gentlemen, This is it: The Studebaker Hoch Dancing Lesson And Cosmic Prayer for Guidance, Featuring Mr. Aynsley Dunbar. Hit it! (And, of course, they hit it.) Nabakov — that’s quite a prose-poem in praise of Mo. Robert Creeley and Su Tung-p’o would be green with envy.

“Sly Dunbar belongs in another conversation altogther.”

You are speaking, I presume, of Mister Aynsley?

FLO & EDDIE: Some men say he could DANCE!
ZAPPA: They said he could dance,
And of course, they were right.
Ladies and gentlemen,
This is it: The Studebaker Hoch Dancing Lesson
And Cosmic Prayer for Guidance,
Featuring Mr. Aynsley Dunbar. Hit it!

(And, of course, they hit it.)

]]> By: nabakov http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284413 nabakov Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:35:50 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284413 And hey Mo Tucker played drums like a Galveston tug boat pilot - thoughtful, precise, and with one eye always on the money, the other on the shore. And standing up as the song docked. And hey Mo Tucker played drums like a Galveston tug boat pilot – thoughtful, precise, and with one eye always on the money, the other on the shore. And standing up as the song docked.

]]> By: nabakov http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284412 nabakov Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:20:17 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284412 Hey Keith Moon was crazed, brillantly majestic and touched by the Gods (mainly by Hephaestus for a tenner, a couple of fags and that hot chick's phone number), Bill Bruford basically invented the late 20th century funk rock jazz art drum chair and Tony Williams is of course only and never anyone else but Tony Williams. But Watts and Bonham consistantly and relentessly played to a brillant peak as the engine rooms of the two bands that defined white boy rock. They weren't virtuosos (well yes they were), they were essential to epoch shivering sounds. Sly Dunbar belongs in another conversation altogther. Fuck me sychonristy at work again my itunes just threw up Sly and Robbie doing the Pete Gunn theme. Scuse me while I kiss the Lambsbreath, mon. Hey Keith Moon was crazed, brillantly majestic and touched by the Gods (mainly by Hephaestus for a tenner, a couple of fags and that hot chick’s phone number), Bill Bruford basically invented the late 20th century funk rock jazz art drum chair and Tony Williams is of course only and never anyone else but Tony Williams.

But Watts and Bonham consistantly and relentessly played to a brillant peak as the engine rooms of the two bands that defined white boy rock. They weren’t virtuosos (well yes they were), they were essential to epoch shivering sounds.

Sly Dunbar belongs in another conversation altogther.

Fuck me sychonristy at work again my itunes just threw up Sly and Robbie doing the Pete Gunn theme. Scuse me while I kiss the Lambsbreath, mon.

]]> By: jo http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284411 jo Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:44:57 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/01/11/waiting-for-the-accountability-moment/#comment-284411 nabs - surely mitch mitchell would feature in yr great white brit drummer lineup..... nabs – surely mitch mitchell would feature in yr great white brit drummer lineup…..

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