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	<description>Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas</description>
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		<title>By: The Devil Drink</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278078</link>
		<dc:creator>The Devil Drink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleven in the ay emm: time for a cold can and a break from work, comblogriotas. Anticipating tomorrow&#039;s Saturday Salon, here&#039;s the most exceedingly awesome photography I&#039;ve had a look at in ages, and I find myself righteously displeased that it&#039;s been around so long and I&#039;ve never seen it before. Brisbanians might find the photographer&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jinxmagazine.com/golden_bridge.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;old work&lt;/a&gt; interesting. Anyway, look up your city, and have a look at it from the underside.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleven in the ay emm: time for a cold can and a break from work, comblogriotas. Anticipating tomorrow&#8217;s Saturday Salon, here&#8217;s the most exceedingly awesome photography I&#8217;ve had a look at in ages, and I find myself righteously displeased that it&#8217;s been around so long and I&#8217;ve never seen it before. Brisbanians might find the photographer&#8217;s <a href="http://www.jinxmagazine.com/golden_bridge.html" rel="nofollow">old work</a> interesting. Anyway, look up your city, and have a look at it from the underside.<br />
<a href="http://sleepycity.net/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://sleepycity.net/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278077</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I bet you were shooting at the brave sailors on the Battleship Potemkin too, Comrade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I bet you were shooting at the brave sailors on the Battleship Potemkin too, Comrade!</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Keeler</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278076</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. And you&#039;re under arrest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. And you&#8217;re under arrest.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Keeler</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278075</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen mate, having just read Beevor&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Teh Battle For Spain&lt;/i&gt; I can pick your lot a mile off. Typical Trotskyite-Fascist-Fifth-Coulmnist-Counterrevolutionary-Treasonous-Activities.

You can try and pass this off as a trifling difference of opinion, but we all know you&#039;re in league with various class enemies. Your demand for &#039;proof&#039; is a ridiculous bourgeois concept.

Free Hicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen mate, having just read Beevor&#8217;s <i>Teh Battle For Spain</i> I can pick your lot a mile off. Typical Trotskyite-Fascist-Fifth-Coulmnist-Counterrevolutionary-Treasonous-Activities.</p>
<p>You can try and pass this off as a trifling difference of opinion, but we all know you&#8217;re in league with various class enemies. Your demand for &#8216;proof&#8217; is a ridiculous bourgeois concept.</p>
<p>Free Hicks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278074</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda like it as it is!

But Comrade Keeler, your analysis omits the central fact that Venezuela is a swamp that must be drained! The false deviationist and splittist Chavez (trying to deceive the working class through having a hispanic name like Che!) fails to understand the true and historically materialistically confirmed mission of TEH LAST SUPERPOWER! When Halliburton take over the re-education contracts, he&#039;ll be first up against the wall!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda like it as it is!</p>
<p>But Comrade Keeler, your analysis omits the central fact that Venezuela is a swamp that must be drained! The false deviationist and splittist Chavez (trying to deceive the working class through having a hispanic name like Che!) fails to understand the true and historically materialistically confirmed mission of TEH LAST SUPERPOWER! When Halliburton take over the re-education contracts, he&#8217;ll be first up against the wall!</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Keeler</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278073</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Mark. Those supposedly clever long word strings don&#039;t come up so good, do they? Edit as necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Mark. Those supposedly clever long word strings don&#8217;t come up so good, do they? Edit as necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Keeler</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278072</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news everybody! Socialism lives!

I must say that I&#039;ve been a bit disappointed at the lack of comment on LP (Bourgeois Left), Leftwrites (Revolutionary Somethingorotherhatethepolicebuyjeffsparrowsbook) http://www.leftwrites.net/ and Lastsuperpower (Theonlyrealgenuineleftandalltherestofyouareapackofcounterrevolutionaryfascistcuntysoftcockswhodeservedtobehauledbeforearevolutionarypeoplestribunalandshot)  about the great Venezuelan Project. http://www.lastsuperpower.net/docs/alcultrevdef

Well in case nobody has heard, president Hugo Chavez has just been appointed dictator. The Venezuelan National Assembly approved an enabling act granting ChÃ¡vez the power to rule by decree for 18 months. According to Green Left Weekly&#039;s twisted logic:


&lt;blockquote&gt;Chavez has already begun to replace liberal democracy with a participatory democracy that is responsive to peopleâs needs, not to the interests of capitalist elites. It is this, together with Chavezâs economic program and anti-imperialist foreign policy, that has led the US and the corporate media to portray him as a dictator in the making. However, the people who are directly experiencing this transformation take the opposite view. A 2005 opinion poll by Latinobarometro found that more people in Venezuela consider their country âtotally democraticâ? than any other nation in Latin America.

In order to understand what is meant by participatory democracy, it is necessary to explain that the existing state structures inherited from the ancien regime were riddled with corruption, remote and unresponsive to peopleâs needs, and in many cases staffed by government opponents who used their positions to undermine service delivery and resist reform. As a consequence, a parallel state structure began to emerge. The hugely popular social misiones, which are based in the barrios and provide everything from free health care to subsidised food markets, are run at armâs length from government ministries. Critically, they are also subject to direct community involvement and control.&lt;/blockquote&gt; http://www.greenleft.org.au/2007/697/36215

So in case no one gets it, the future of the &#039;socialist project&#039; is more dictatorship.

Talk about your false gods. Absolutely pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news everybody! Socialism lives!</p>
<p>I must say that I&#8217;ve been a bit disappointed at the lack of comment on LP (Bourgeois Left), Leftwrites (Revolutionary Somethingorotherhatethepolicebuyjeffsparrowsbook) <a href="http://www.leftwrites.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.leftwrites.net/</a> and Lastsuperpower (Theonlyrealgenuineleftandalltherestofyouareapackofcounterrevolutionaryfascistcuntysoftcockswhodeservedtobehauledbeforearevolutionarypeoplestribunalandshot)  about the great Venezuelan Project. <a href="http://www.lastsuperpower.net/docs/alcultrevdef" rel="nofollow">http://www.lastsuperpower.net/docs/alcultrevdef</a></p>
<p>Well in case nobody has heard, president Hugo Chavez has just been appointed dictator. The Venezuelan National Assembly approved an enabling act granting ChÃ¡vez the power to rule by decree for 18 months. According to Green Left Weekly&#8217;s twisted logic:</p>
<blockquote><p>Chavez has already begun to replace liberal democracy with a participatory democracy that is responsive to peopleâs needs, not to the interests of capitalist elites. It is this, together with Chavezâs economic program and anti-imperialist foreign policy, that has led the US and the corporate media to portray him as a dictator in the making. However, the people who are directly experiencing this transformation take the opposite view. A 2005 opinion poll by Latinobarometro found that more people in Venezuela consider their country âtotally democraticâ? than any other nation in Latin America.</p>
<p>In order to understand what is meant by participatory democracy, it is necessary to explain that the existing state structures inherited from the ancien regime were riddled with corruption, remote and unresponsive to peopleâs needs, and in many cases staffed by government opponents who used their positions to undermine service delivery and resist reform. As a consequence, a parallel state structure began to emerge. The hugely popular social misiones, which are based in the barrios and provide everything from free health care to subsidised food markets, are run at armâs length from government ministries. Critically, they are also subject to direct community involvement and control.</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http://www.greenleft.org.au/2007/697/36215" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenleft.org.au/2007/697/36215</a></p>
<p>So in case no one gets it, the future of the &#8216;socialist project&#8217; is more dictatorship.</p>
<p>Talk about your false gods. Absolutely pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278071</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 04:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If David wants an argument, I&#039;m sure Tim Lambert would oblige :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If David wants an argument, I&#8217;m sure Tim Lambert would oblige <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Christine Keeler</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278070</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Mark. I&#039;m leaving it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Mark. I&#8217;m leaving it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/03/saturday-salon-87/#comment-278069</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t start a discussion of the Lancet study on this thread. These debates tend to be the most annoying and tedious I&#039;ve ever read on the blogosphere. The issues have been thoroughly thrashed out. It&#039;s unproductive to do it all over again as I&#039;m sure exactly the same arguments will be made on both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t start a discussion of the Lancet study on this thread. These debates tend to be the most annoying and tedious I&#8217;ve ever read on the blogosphere. The issues have been thoroughly thrashed out. It&#8217;s unproductive to do it all over again as I&#8217;m sure exactly the same arguments will be made on both sides.</p>
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