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  1. Christine Keeler

    And by brushing it aside, Edwards treated it as the petty nuisance it is, rather than endowing it and them with unwarranted credibility.

    I’m pretty impressed by Greenwald’s analyses on all manner of things. This incident was nothing more than a playground spat that somehow (well specifically, coverage by reputable news sources that should have known better) managed to escape and spew forth its bile with the precious, life-affirming oxygen of ‘national debate’ for a few days.

    Edwards should have moved sooner. This sort of crap has to be smacked down early.

    It’s something that Labour should take note of, because it’s bound to happen here.

    And I think that’s a bit of a worry, because while the US hopefuls are pretty web savvy (Look at Hillary’s site http://www.hillaryclinton.com/ ), with a heavy reliance on webcasts and (somehow, when we figure it out) blogs, the ALP’s site is distinctly retro http://www.alp.org.au/, and not in A Hip Way.

    For instance, just look at Hillary’s ‘I’m in’ anouncment. It featured a well-produced but probably very cost effective webcast which received saturation coverage. Talk about bang for your buck.

    Unlike the US, Australian parties still amazingly treat the web as a bit of an afterthought, and not as an integral part of their campaign strategy.

    Fuck me, if the ALP think people are going to front up for the guilty pleasure of reading a bunch of media releases they’re nuts.

  2. Nabakov

    “…our public political discourse has been centrally driven by an ever-growing network of scandal-mongers and filth-peddling purveyors of baseless, petty innuendo”

    Oh the horror, the horror. An informed browse through politics over the past several thousand years should make it clear this kind of crap has going on like forever.

    Julius Ceaser was frequently accused by the local bloggers and pundits (ie: political graffiti artists) of fucking not only his own troops but their pack animals as well ( and if true, there’s no record of them complaining about) while at least one Veep shot a former SecState over accusations of incest.

    The only really difference between then and now is that the mass media which helps transmit this shit is no longer run by swashbuckling entreprenuers but by large, cautious and sluggish corporations so focused on selling eyeballs and ears to advertisers that they can’t really see anymore what their audience is really looking at or listening to anymore.

    This Edwards blogger move is a case in point. It’s all about mobilising an online base in an electorate where voting is not compulsory. Whipping up this pointless hooha about she said a bad word, yes she did, will make for good MSM copy but I doubt it will register anymore by the Dem primaries, not least because all sorts of other moral panics will be well whipped up by then. Like the rumour Obama’s not actually black, just very suntanned.

    And it’s not it really matters anyway. The uS is too big, rich, strange and diversified for any one Oval One to really run it now. And after the Dubya fiasco, would you really want any one person with that much power anymore anyway. Time for another American revolution I’d say. Give everyone some properly vested stock and rejig how the board of directors is appointed and their performnace pay assessed. And soon, before Google puts in a very competitive offer for the lower 48.

  3. tigtog

    The serious attention given to Donohue’s screeching about “anti-catholic bigotry” because of some satirical articles (including the dreaded swears oh noes) about Church public policies reminds me of a Teresa Neilsen Hayden post from a few years ago (looong comments thread):

    Cult vs. church: a proposed rule of thumb

    If, on appropriate occasions, the members tell, enjoy, trade, and/or devise transgressively funny jokes about their denomination, it’s a church.

    If such jokes reliably meet with stifling social disapproval, it’s a cult.

    Sure, transgressive jokes from outsiders rather than insiders can be a more hostile thing, but the principle still holds up reasonably well, IMO.

  4. tigtog

    Clarification: I’m referring to Donohue as my purported cultist, not the entire body of the Catholic Church.

  5. James Madison [princ. inter al.]: author, US Constitution (ret.)

    Nabakov: “And after the Dubya fiasco, would you really want any one person with that much power anymore anyway.”

    Well, finally! It’s about fucking time. After all, that’s ONLY what I’ve been saying for, oh, I don’t know, let me think now, maybe the last TWO HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS OR SO.

    Mr. Nabakov, would you kindly come visit DC and politely explain to the present, sitting crop of weevils that, yes, they ARE a crop of weevils, they always HAVE BEEN and ALWAYS WILL BE a crop of weevils, no matter who’s elected or who’s in charge, that nothing will ever change that basic fact, and that the whole reason for the entire bloody system existing the way I designed it is to safeguard the non-weevils back home from the inescapable fact that the weevils in charge can never be anything other than what they are. The whole point is to make them fight each other just enough so that they don’t have time left over to do anything radically stupid. I could have sworn I made that clear. Christ, we had this whole thing pegged in 1787. I dunno, did maybe too much exposure to sunlight make the ink fade on the goddamned paper? Or maybe instead of calling it a ‘constitution,’ I shoulda been more clear, and just called it ‘How to protect yourselves from ASSHOLES: a user’s manual’…

    Note to self: next time writing constitution, invest in UV-proof polarized glass… Oh, and remember to get “RTFM” engraved on the front of the Capitol…

  6. tigtog

    Dear Mr Madison, I have some more bad news.

    Why don’t you sit down? Cup of tea?

    Maybe brandy might be better.

    Cheney’s team is arguing that the Office of the Vice President doesn’t have to conform with some reporting requirements purportedly covering all executive arms of government.

    On what grounds, you may ask?

    His press secretary said: “it has been determined that reporting requirements do not apply to the Office of the Vice President, which has both legislative and executive functions.â€?

    Full report here.

    At the risk of sounding intemperate, this is insane.

    Cheney’s office seems to have declared itself some kind of fourth branch of the government. It’s legislative, it’s executive, it’s accountable to no one .. it’s the super branch.

    So much for those checks and balances.

  7. The Devil Drink

    President Madison, I think, would have enjoyed port or madeira over tea, eighteenth-century bloke’s bloke that he was. Perhaps a nip of rum, James, or would that remind you too closely of the slaves cultivating the sugar?
    Nabakov, I recall that the real stinging accusation made against the emperor Julius wasn’t that he fucked his troops, but that everyone knew he was fucked by them (well, Nicodemus, anyway), implying youth and lack of manliness, a reverse Clinton with a twist.

  8. GregM

    Almost correct, DD. It was Nicodemes of Bithynia.

    Nicodemus was a character in the New Testament.

  9. tigtog

    Yet at the same time that Julius Caesar was being defamed as a catcher and not a pitcher, he was notorious for his many mistresses, nearly all the wives of his political opponents. It was an attempt to swiftboat him with the voters, simple.

    My favourite soap opera moment in the later days of the Roman Republic is Cato the Younger snatching a letter from Caesar in the Senate, a letter that he thought would reveal Caesar as a traitor, only to find that it was in fact a love letter from his own sister Servilia.

  10. PeterTB

    “was an attempt to swiftboat him with the voters, simple”

    Ceasar’s military campaign experience was impressive though – wasn’t it?

  11. The Devil Drink

    Quite right, GregM, quite right: so many old books, so many men fucking their subordinates for money and power. I’m open to your suggestion for a penitential act to atone for my wrongness.

  12. GregM

    But the most minor of errors, DD. I would not even consider asking you to forgo a small glass of chablis for it.

  13. G. Valerius Catullus -- but just "Catullus" will do

    Ah, yes, Caesar. Quite a lad. Certainly got around. His first name, after all, was “Gaius” — just like mine (I did a little time in Bithynia too, if you know what I mean…).

    Greg M: “Nicodemus was a character in the New Testament.”

    I do take your point, but if you’ll permit me to be a bit of a stickler: Nicodemus was not a ‘character’ in the NT. Sancho Panza, for instance, is a ‘character.’ Nicodemus was a *person* who is discussed in the NT.

    But, that being said, Cheers all! Off to the library at Alexandria…

    Oh, wait… Shit.

  14. tigtog

    Ceasar’s military campaign experience was impressive though – wasn’t it?

    PeterTB, I was thinking of Caesar’s early runs for elected office (quaestor, praetor etc) before his Gallic campaigns that made his reputation as a general. The incident with Cato and the letter took place before Caesar had generalled any victories (pretty sure about that), although he’d performed well as a junior officer (and his celebrated capture and crucifixion of the pirates who’d captured him for ransom predated it). At this stage Caesar’s military achievements tended to be portrayed by his enemies as due to pure luck or to him taking credit for the work of more modest men.

    By the time Caesar had conquered Gaul his opponents were mostly interested in painting him as more bloodthirsty than Marius and Sulla combined rather than trying to convince people that he wasn’t militarily gifted.

  15. tigtog

    Back to bloggers on campaign: here’s a good story in the LA Times about the Edwards bloggers brouhaha (love that word).

    Expect this kind of nuttiness to continue until voters show that they care more about a candidate’s thoughts than those of the hired hands.

  16. Hypatia of Alexandria

    Catullus, you had it bloody easy. “Exhaustion” is a piker’s way to die untimely.

    P.S. You died well before my Library was destroyed, too.

  17. The Devil Drink

    Execution? Could be worse, at least you get out in the open air.
    …you could be stabbed.

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