Comments on: Winning the war with Powerpoint http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:30:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Graham Bell http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281697 Graham Bell Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:56:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281697 Mark: Lack of an avalanch of comments here probably does not mean a lack of interest Stunned silence perhaps? Mark:
Lack of an avalanch of comments here probably does not mean a lack of interest Stunned silence perhaps?

]]> By: Graham Bell http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281696 Graham Bell Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:47:18 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281696 Mark: Didn't T.E.Lawrence say something about people leaving The Enemy out of their plans? But what would he know? After all, he was a chap who "went native" and hung aroung with a bunch of wogs, sand-Arabs and camel-jockeys ..... [nowadays we would just call them G-d m-f towel-heads and hit them with plenty of shock-and-awe] ..... Katz: What gives you the idea that the Lib-Labs on the Opposition benches actually wanted to frame precise questions? They knew very well what they were doing ..... they are hoping to be in government themselves one day. Mark:

Didn’t T.E.Lawrence say something about people leaving The Enemy out of their plans? But what would he know? After all, he was a chap who “went native” and hung aroung with a bunch of wogs, sand-Arabs and camel-jockeys ….. [nowadays we would just call them G-d m-f towel-heads and hit them with plenty of shock-and-awe] …..

Katz:
What gives you the idea that the Lib-Labs on the Opposition benches actually wanted to frame precise questions? They knew very well what they were doing ….. they are hoping to be in government themselves one day.

]]> By: Katz http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281695 Katz Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:29:29 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281695 I think you'll find that all questions in Parliament in 2002 from the ALP on this point were quite clumsily worded, along the lines of: "Has the government resolved to fight a war against Iraq?" Howard, Downer, Hill, et al. easily batted these away with a "no decision has yet been made" answer. The more precise question would have been: "Which Australian units have been offered and are being considered as part of any allied war plan against Iraq?" A negative answer to this would have triggered a misleading of Parliament charge when Robert's SAS info eventually comes out. Perhaps the ALP could learn to frame precise questions. I think you’ll find that all questions in Parliament in 2002 from the ALP on this point were quite clumsily worded, along the lines of: “Has the government resolved to fight a war against Iraq?”

Howard, Downer, Hill, et al. easily batted these away with a “no decision has yet been made” answer.

The more precise question would have been: “Which Australian units have been offered and are being considered as part of any allied war plan against Iraq?”

A negative answer to this would have triggered a misleading of Parliament charge when Robert’s SAS info eventually comes out.

Perhaps the ALP could learn to frame precise questions.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281694 Mark Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:07:38 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281694 Interesting! Interesting!

]]> By: Robert Merkel http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281693 Robert Merkel Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:08:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281693 By the way, if you look at page 1 of document "K" <a HREF="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB214/index.htm" rel="nofollow">of the slides</a>, there's a very interesting tidbit: The full list of coalition forces is presented. Guess what, the Australian SAS task group in Jordan is listed. So we were part of the official plan back in August 2002. You know, back when we had in no way committed to going into Iraq according to Honest John. Somebody else already noticed this, by the way, but I'm not sure who it was. By the way, if you look at page 1 of document “K” of the slides, there’s a very interesting tidbit:

The full list of coalition forces is presented. Guess what, the Australian SAS task group in Jordan is listed. So we were part of the official plan back in August 2002. You know, back when we had in no way committed to going into Iraq according to Honest John.

Somebody else already noticed this, by the way, but I’m not sure who it was.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281692 Mark Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:40:34 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281692 Thanks. Fixed. Thanks. Fixed.

]]> By: Andrew http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281691 Andrew Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:39:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/21/winning-the-war-with-powerpoint/#comment-281691 Hilzoy is female. Hilzoy is female.

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