Comments on: Uncle Joe http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:33:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Andrew E http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-282003 Andrew E Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:59:29 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-282003 Following this theme of 1930s nostalgia, I note that Hockey's given names are the same as those of Chifley. Following this theme of 1930s nostalgia, I note that Hockey’s given names are the same as those of Chifley.

]]> By: FDB http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-282002 FDB Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:54:03 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-282002 OT request. Could someone investigate whether I've been inadvertently blacklisted by the spaminator? Or if advertently, let me know why? Every comment I make gets stuck, and I assume someone keeps having to fish them out. Or maybe I don't know wordpress as well as I pretend. Thanks. OT request.

Could someone investigate whether I’ve been inadvertently blacklisted by the spaminator? Or if advertently, let me know why?

Every comment I make gets stuck, and I assume someone keeps having to fish them out. Or maybe I don’t know wordpress as well as I pretend.

Thanks.

]]> By: Ken_L http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-282001 Ken_L Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:50:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-282001 I suspect the problem with WorkChoices for journalists is that its impact is felt in so many different areas. Is it about unfair dismissals? Yes. Is it about removing minimum standards? Yes. Is it about transferring power from the states to the commonwealth? Yes. Does it remove that comfortable old standby 'the award'? Again yes, but not immediately and in ways that will differ according to individual circumstances. And so on. Being so many different things in so many unrelated situations makes it hard to write nice concise lines about exactly what WorkChoices 'is' or 'does'. A Tristar a month should, however, keep up a general level of public awareness and resentment and Julia Gillard should be able to do something with the stats Mark mentioned. A link between WorkChoices and wages is a lot more plausible than the dodgy link the government tries to make with unemployment. I suspect the problem with WorkChoices for journalists is that its impact is felt in so many different areas. Is it about unfair dismissals? Yes. Is it about removing minimum standards? Yes. Is it about transferring power from the states to the commonwealth? Yes. Does it remove that comfortable old standby ‘the award’? Again yes, but not immediately and in ways that will differ according to individual circumstances. And so on. Being so many different things in so many unrelated situations makes it hard to write nice concise lines about exactly what WorkChoices ‘is’ or ‘does’.

A Tristar a month should, however, keep up a general level of public awareness and resentment and Julia Gillard should be able to do something with the stats Mark mentioned. A link between WorkChoices and wages is a lot more plausible than the dodgy link the government tries to make with unemployment.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-282000 Mark Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:10:11 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-282000 Tim Dunlop on where various wage indices are going - backwards: http://blogs.news.com.au/news/blogocracy/index.php/news/comments/watching_wage_and_workchoices/ Tim Dunlop on where various wage indices are going – backwards:

http://blogs.news.com.au/news/blogocracy/index.php/news/comments/watching_wage_and_workchoices/

]]> By: zoot http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-281999 zoot Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:23:44 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-281999 Too true, Amused. But I shudder to think that the people who <em>do</em> count are Paris Hilton, Anna Nicole Smith etc etc etc. Too true, Amused. But I shudder to think that the people who do count are Paris Hilton, Anna Nicole Smith etc etc etc.

]]> By: amused http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-281998 amused Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:36:38 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-281998 The fundamentals of the legislation are quite straightforward, and if journalists have trouble understanding them, they can go to any number of labour law experts to fill them in. The fact they couldn't be bothered, the fact that they think it is a third order issue, speaks volumes about their views on their role. It is not that they are too lazy to find out. It is not that they can't read or understand the impact it is having, it is because fundamentally, in their view, these matters are things that happen to people who don't count in the universe in which they operate. This tells us a lot about the role that journalists now undertake, and it makes a mockery, if any more were needed, of their pose as 'tribunes of the little people'. Nothing illustrates their fundamental elitism more, than their willingness to permit frank lies and endless obfuscation, when the subject under discussion, is the rights and entitlements of people who, in their scheme of things, simply don't count. The fundamentals of the legislation are quite straightforward, and if journalists have trouble understanding them, they can go to any number of labour law experts to fill them in. The fact they couldn’t be bothered, the fact that they think it is a third order issue, speaks volumes about their views on their role. It is not that they are too lazy to find out. It is not that they can’t read or understand the impact it is having, it is because fundamentally, in their view, these matters are things that happen to people who don’t count in the universe in which they operate.

This tells us a lot about the role that journalists now undertake, and it makes a mockery, if any more were needed, of their pose as ‘tribunes of the little people’. Nothing illustrates their fundamental elitism more, than their willingness to permit frank lies and endless obfuscation, when the subject under discussion, is the rights and entitlements of people who, in their scheme of things, simply don’t count.

]]> By: Minotaur http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-281997 Minotaur Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:45:34 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/22/uncle-joe/#comment-281997 I must beg to differ, Kim - he's been <a href="http://modiaminotaur.blogspot.com/2007/02/uncle-joe-vs-aunt-julia.html" rel="nofollow">Uncle Joe to me</a> since stoushing began! I'm liking that mo idea though. I must beg to differ, Kim – he’s been Uncle Joe to me since stoushing began!

I’m liking that mo idea though.

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