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		<title>By: Funktastic</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/02/23/are-lava-lamps-banned-too/#comment-282249</link>
		<dc:creator>Funktastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;market competition and consumer power are all that is required to bring the cost of these products down.&quot;

Yeah, that&#039;s what he&#039;s saying. Currently the only thing they have to compete with IS incandescant bulbs; if flourescent bulbs are mandated, there won&#039;t be any competition and Flourescents will have a monopoly on the market. Well, except for Halogens, but the point is that where competition goes down, supply goes down. Demand is not going to change significantly. Therefore prices will rise.

I agree with this guy;
&quot;Just put a price on carbon, run some education campaigns on various technologies and people will naturally respond by doing things like installing CFLs, and using renewable energy source because they’re cheaper.&quot;

I&#039;d suggest you read Atlas Shrugged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;market competition and consumer power are all that is required to bring the cost of these products down.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what he&#8217;s saying. Currently the only thing they have to compete with IS incandescant bulbs; if flourescent bulbs are mandated, there won&#8217;t be any competition and Flourescents will have a monopoly on the market. Well, except for Halogens, but the point is that where competition goes down, supply goes down. Demand is not going to change significantly. Therefore prices will rise.</p>
<p>I agree with this guy;<br />
&#8220;Just put a price on carbon, run some education campaigns on various technologies and people will naturally respond by doing things like installing CFLs, and using renewable energy source because they’re cheaper.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest you read Atlas Shrugged.</p>
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		<title>By: Jace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just letting you all know that Spiral Shaped bulbs are not good at all. The ones that came out in 80s and used in 90s were much better, plus the magnetic did much better on long life.....the ones with microchips inside and the tube is not removeable (which means either the bulb or the chip goes bad means whole thing in trash) I have tested a lot of dead Compact Fluorescent lights and some were dead because the internal parts were dead while others were the bulb.....so the ones that had dead electronic parts, the bulb that has mercury inside will be thrown away.....wasting more mercury.

Here&#039;s a Fact....the more mercury in a fluorescent light lasts longer than the ones with low mercury!

Another thing why Spiral shaped ones are not good is if you look carefully at the bottom part of the tube when the light is lit...you&#039;ll see really thick coating of phosphor preventing from light in the bottom area which means it won&#039;t be efficient  enough becausee putting it in the table lamp, not much light to go down and more goes up while this spiral lamp will do much better on recessed fixtures because base is up and letting light go down because the thick coating area is not needed and is inside the fixture.


Below is relating to streetlights lightbulbs...

You know also for the fact in the Philips web page is that Metal Halide lights (used for parking lots and newer than Mercury Vapor) have a LOT more mercury dose in it than Mercury Vapor and I hear about Mercury Vapor being banned because it is an easy target to ban just because of the word &quot;Mercury&quot; also Metal Halide bulbs do not last as long as Mercury Vapor lamps meaning more mercury is being thrown away! Plus High Pressure Sodium were recently put to have lower mercury meaning a LOT SHORTER life High Pressure bulbs being thrown away and even more mercury is disposed because little by little faster  (if a Alto HPS lasted 2 years and a Regular more mercury HPS lasted 10 years that means maybe if 1/4 dose of the full dose of mercury in one HPS 2 years so 1/4 times ten years is 2 1/2 of mercury while a regular has full dose lasts 10 years) then you only dispose 1 dose for one light in 10 years instead of 2 1/4 doses in 10 years....Does this make sense?


I am just letting you know my knowledges of facts....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just letting you all know that Spiral Shaped bulbs are not good at all. The ones that came out in 80s and used in 90s were much better, plus the magnetic did much better on long life&#8230;..the ones with microchips inside and the tube is not removeable (which means either the bulb or the chip goes bad means whole thing in trash) I have tested a lot of dead Compact Fluorescent lights and some were dead because the internal parts were dead while others were the bulb&#8230;..so the ones that had dead electronic parts, the bulb that has mercury inside will be thrown away&#8230;..wasting more mercury.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Fact&#8230;.the more mercury in a fluorescent light lasts longer than the ones with low mercury!</p>
<p>Another thing why Spiral shaped ones are not good is if you look carefully at the bottom part of the tube when the light is lit&#8230;you&#8217;ll see really thick coating of phosphor preventing from light in the bottom area which means it won&#8217;t be efficient  enough becausee putting it in the table lamp, not much light to go down and more goes up while this spiral lamp will do much better on recessed fixtures because base is up and letting light go down because the thick coating area is not needed and is inside the fixture.</p>
<p>Below is relating to streetlights lightbulbs&#8230;</p>
<p>You know also for the fact in the Philips web page is that Metal Halide lights (used for parking lots and newer than Mercury Vapor) have a LOT more mercury dose in it than Mercury Vapor and I hear about Mercury Vapor being banned because it is an easy target to ban just because of the word &#8220;Mercury&#8221; also Metal Halide bulbs do not last as long as Mercury Vapor lamps meaning more mercury is being thrown away! Plus High Pressure Sodium were recently put to have lower mercury meaning a LOT SHORTER life High Pressure bulbs being thrown away and even more mercury is disposed because little by little faster  (if a Alto HPS lasted 2 years and a Regular more mercury HPS lasted 10 years that means maybe if 1/4 dose of the full dose of mercury in one HPS 2 years so 1/4 times ten years is 2 1/2 of mercury while a regular has full dose lasts 10 years) then you only dispose 1 dose for one light in 10 years instead of 2 1/4 doses in 10 years&#8230;.Does this make sense?</p>
<p>I am just letting you know my knowledges of facts&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Merkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wbb: two points:

From a technical perspective, power can be pumped into the national grid with acceptably low energy losses (the Queensland to Darwin proposed electricity line would have worked just fine).  Whether it&#039;s financially viable to do so is the real question, and depends on how much people are going to be prepared to pay for carbon-neutral electricity.

Geodynamics&#039; business plan for a commercial-scale plant includes a connection to the national grid.

The Australian&#039;s grasp of engineering issues is probably right up there with Greg Sheridan&#039;s grasp of the Middle East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wbb: two points:</p>
<p>From a technical perspective, power can be pumped into the national grid with acceptably low energy losses (the Queensland to Darwin proposed electricity line would have worked just fine).  Whether it&#8217;s financially viable to do so is the real question, and depends on how much people are going to be prepared to pay for carbon-neutral electricity.</p>
<p>Geodynamics&#8217; business plan for a commercial-scale plant includes a connection to the national grid.</p>
<p>The Australian&#8217;s grasp of engineering issues is probably right up there with Greg Sheridan&#8217;s grasp of the Middle East.</p>
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		<title>By: wbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>wbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead right, Brian.

My first question for Merkel then, is why does today&#039;s editorial in The Australian say:

&lt;blockquote&gt;So-called hot rocks may work in some areas of the country, but the resulting power cannot be pumped across the national grid.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I understand that he is not licenced to provide share-market advice, but if The Australian knows something I don&#039;t, then I&#039;m wondering why Merkel is a GDY shareholder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead right, Brian.</p>
<p>My first question for Merkel then, is why does today&#8217;s editorial in The Australian say:</p>
<blockquote><p>So-called hot rocks may work in some areas of the country, but the resulting power cannot be pumped across the national grid.</p></blockquote>
<p>I understand that he is not licenced to provide share-market advice, but if The Australian knows something I don&#8217;t, then I&#8217;m wondering why Merkel is a GDY shareholder?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merkel&#039;s the one, wbb. He has the practical focus for the job. If he errs, I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll set him straight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merkel&#8217;s the one, wbb. He has the practical focus for the job. If he errs, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll set him straight!</p>
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		<title>By: wbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>wbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian - you&#039;ve brought this issue into the light in the blogosphere. You&#039;ve seen of GMB. So now it seems to me it&#039;s your job to finish what you&#039;ve started. Don&#039;t look to Merkel. He&#039;s too busy burying his halogens in the backyard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211; you&#8217;ve brought this issue into the light in the blogosphere. You&#8217;ve seen of GMB. So now it seems to me it&#8217;s your job to finish what you&#8217;ve started. Don&#8217;t look to Merkel. He&#8217;s too busy burying his halogens in the backyard.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear! I&#039;ve just checked and we&#039;re using about 29 khw per day. There are 3 people here, plus a dog, a cat and a swimming pool. In addition, we have a gas hot water system. I think I&#039;ll have to check to see whether the neighbours are running a cord under the fence!

Our roof is oriented the wrong way and we&#039;d never get enough panels up there to do the job.

Yes please on a âwhat can I do personally to reduce my carbon emissionsâ? thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear! I&#8217;ve just checked and we&#8217;re using about 29 khw per day. There are 3 people here, plus a dog, a cat and a swimming pool. In addition, we have a gas hot water system. I think I&#8217;ll have to check to see whether the neighbours are running a cord under the fence!</p>
<p>Our roof is oriented the wrong way and we&#8217;d never get enough panels up there to do the job.</p>
<p>Yes please on a âwhat can I do personally to reduce my carbon emissionsâ? thread.</p>
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		<title>By: wbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>wbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also with the ppl&#039;s republik. But didn&#039;t know they were shutting down. But take that as a good sign - volume and consumer awareness making their initiative redundant.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenelectricitywatch.org.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;greenelectricitywatch&lt;/a&gt; gives ratings for the various providers, too. Amazing how shonky some of the retailers are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also with the ppl&#8217;s republik. But didn&#8217;t know they were shutting down. But take that as a good sign &#8211; volume and consumer awareness making their initiative redundant.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greenelectricitywatch.org.au/" rel="nofollow">greenelectricitywatch</a> gives ratings for the various providers, too. Amazing how shonky some of the retailers are.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Merkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGL.  I signed up through a scheme organized by the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.moreland.vic.gov.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;People&#039;s Republic of Moreland&lt;/a&gt; called Community Power, but that scheme is about to be shut down and isn&#039;t taking new customers.

I&#039;m going to have to find a new Green Power provider soon.  The &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.greenpower.gov.au&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Green Power website&lt;/a&gt; has a list &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.greenpower.gov.au/pages/Home-Who-Sells.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

We should probably do a &quot;what can I do personally to reduce my carbon emissions&quot; thread...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGL.  I signed up through a scheme organized by the <a HREF="http://www.moreland.vic.gov.au/" rel="nofollow">People&#8217;s Republic of Moreland</a> called Community Power, but that scheme is about to be shut down and isn&#8217;t taking new customers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to have to find a new Green Power provider soon.  The <a HREF="http://www.greenpower.gov.au" rel="nofollow">Green Power website</a> has a list <a HREF="http://www.greenpower.gov.au/pages/Home-Who-Sells.php" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>We should probably do a &#8220;what can I do personally to reduce my carbon emissions&#8221; thread&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>wbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - who is your retailer out of interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211; who is your retailer out of interest?</p>
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