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34 responses to “On Not Blogging the NSW Election”

  1. Evan

    It’s hardly an inspiring election. A choice between a bunch of self-serving Bovver Boys in power and another bunch of ideologically-driven Neo-Con loonies seeking it.

    And none of them worth spit.

    Ho hum. I think most people have just tuned-out.

    Labour will prolly romp back in, but frankly, they’ve little to be proud of.

    Bring back Jack Lang.

  2. Modia Minotaur

    Heh … I’m saving up all my good Jack Lang stuff for the 75th anniversary of the Harbour Bridge opening.

    There’s plenty.

  3. leftist sock puppet

    It’s the most boring election ever, except that if Peter Debnam wins it will be the worst election result ever, so onwards and upwards. Hust! Hust! (that being the verb of hustings, you see).

    more to do but

  4. mal

    Mino,

    I love your work, but I think it’s a trifle unfair to describe Debbers as bland. He’s an established party leader who’s blundered along, furiously lobbing grenades at himself and his party while trying to hit his opponents. You could use many words to describe his leadership (comical, ludicrous, farcical, catastrophic come to mind) but never bland. Honestly, he’s been the Basil Fawlty of political leaders.

    On the other hand, I don’t really get this desire to resuscitate Brogden. I always thought he was the embodiment of preppy blandness. About the only thing I can remember of his leadership is his demise. Sure, compared to Debnam he’s Pericles, but then Lady Macquarie’s Chair would be a better leader than Debnam. At least people would know the name.

  5. tigtog

    I gave the media stick on Monday about the total non-story of Speedogate, but on reflection I can understand them giving in to the glee of it. There’s been fuck-all else to engage with this election.

  6. Mark

    Nice post, MM.

    And look forward to Jack Lang reading!

    Re – Brogden. Isn’t he CEO of an interest group or something similar now? Surely a cushier and better paid job with less hassles than being leader of the NSW Libs?

  7. Evan

    Tried to get onto the ALP website to get that “In the Navy” video, but like most things to do with Sussex Street, it isn’t working.

    Anyone got a link?

    By the way, noticed Kim cracked it and shut-sown posting on her “Right Wing Blow Back Thread”, evidently because she didn’t like what people were saying about Ann Coulter.

    That gurl’s really gotta chill a bit. One Tocquemada was quite enough, thank you.

  8. Mark

    Evan, please stay on topic and avoid metacommentary on other threads.

    Saw the “in the navy” vid on the 7 30 report – looked like a scream.

  9. Evan

    “the Basil Fawlty” of Australian politics.

    Very accurate, mal.

    Hopefully when he loses, he’ll be off to see Mr O’Reilly (Howard), taking the garden Gnome along with him.

    Now that I’d pay to see.

  10. Mark

    What is it with all these Liberal opposition leaders and their dick togs, though? Desparate search for media space? Meant to depict them as fit, strong and ready to steer the ship of state? Mind you, Debnam arguably looked siller in board shorts.

  11. Evan

    Mark,

    Either that or he’s seriously courting the gay vote.

    Given that its former Leiutenant Debnam (RAN), it’s probably an each-way bet.

  12. Mark

    What was Imre Saluzinsky on about with the comments about Debnam coming from a “typical” lower middle-class background? Surely that’s not the case for most Liberal pollies. And Debbers certainly has the accent appropriate to a Member for Vaucluse.

  13. Christine Keeler

    Slightly OT, but I’ve just found out that Kate Lundy has a (radio) blog of sorts http://katelundy.blogspot.com/index.html

    I make no judgement on the content, but good to see someone having a go outside the turgid party rubbish

  14. Evan

    Dunno about his family background, but as a graduate of the RAN Academy and an officer and gentleman, he is certainly someone who has more in common with the occupants of the officers ward-room that those of the stoker’s mess.

    He’s probably representing Vaucluse cause they couldn’t get him elected in Bankstown.

  15. Mark

    Kate Lundy’s shown more smarts about the intertubes for many a long year than most pollies, Christine.

  16. Frank Calabrese

    In The Liberals Ad is here
    http://www.debnamrecord.com/radiotv.php#tv

  17. Evan

    Thanks Frank

  18. Mark

    Yep, thanks, Frank. That’s a bloody funny and clever ad, if just a teensy bit nasty!

  19. Frank Calabrese

    No Probs, pity the downloadable version link isn’t working – it’s very well made and WAY better than the crappy liberal web ad they made of Rudd.

    I just wonder how much the ALP paid for the rights to adapt In The Navy – and of course there is the well known story on how the US Navy went and made a TV ad based on the song to recruit future sailors, which was hastily dropped once it was explained to the Navy bosses the exact demographic the Village People were marketed at. :-)

  20. Bernice

    but but but but but but – hands up who thinks Iemma might just be kennetted? ALP pollng in 10 marginals has things a great deal closer than Newspoll would suggest. & if Debs is rolled post-loss, goes Pru get the job? The coconut would be so happy…
    Otherwise, it just keeps rolling on, the bagmen are still circling Mrs Macquarie’s chair in their black beamers waiting for drop-off time

  21. leftist sock puppet

    This is a whole new dimension on Speedogate

    Methinks it’s worth putting it up on teh main page.

  22. Christine Keeler

    I think you’ll find that story came from ‘internal party polling’ Bernice. Beattie did the same thing in QLD. Helps frighten the troops.

  23. Sacha

    The state election has rarely been at the top of the news here in Sydney. This isn’t good for the opposition.

    State election – what state election?

  24. vee

    I hope neither side get enough to form government and that they have to painstakingly put everything through the balance of power representatives. After all Labor has stuffed up too often and the Coalition does not offer an appealing alternative in the Sydney election.

  25. Steve Edney

    I think the hung parliament is the only “fair” result that could come about. Probably not a good result for the state, but its pretty much what both these lack luster candidates deserve.

  26. Minotaur

    I don’t think the prospect of a Kennetting can be ruled out – Mark Arbib has a point when he suggests that volatility in individual seats makes the usual electoral pendulum pretty useless this time around (though he is using this theory very strategically) – but nor can the equally extraordinary possibility that the government will be returned with an increased majority. This seems inconceivable if you compare the government’s popularity now to the commanding lead it had in 2003.

    I will have to find more expansive language than `bland’. True blandness, such as demonstrated by Peter Debnam, incorporates a myriad of related conditions – primarily, an inability to disrupt the status quo, be it on policy, within factions, or just standing up to a dissident (or alternatively, hearing them out). I, like George Bernard Shaw, see this as a precondition for good leadership, so long as the right fights are picked.

    (Oh, and the Debnam Village People thing is available on Video Sendups.)

  27. Minotaur

    Vee and Steve – surely you jest! Parliament held to ransom by a few self-interested individuals? Don’t forget Australia was the only country to kick up a fuss about Adrian Lyne’s version of `Lolita’, and it was all to curry favour with Brian Harradine.

    Wouldn’t look forward to it myself.

  28. Sacha

    Minotaur, that just demonstrates that it’s the ideas of the individuals on the cross-bench that are important in a hung parliament.

    If it had been Clover Moore instead of Brian Harradine holding a vital Senate vote, some laws might well have been different.

  29. Martin B

    The truth is, the NSW Election would have to rate as one of the most uninspiring in years.

    It has to be better than the last Vic election, surely :-)

    If only the DLP had been an issue before the count it might have been more interesting. :-)

  30. Steve Edney

    Only held to ransom by these individuals so long as both major parties let them.

    As I said not a good result for the state, but Iemma has been seriously pissweak backing away from any important decision in the hope for holding out for another term and I have no confidence in him being able to do any better next term. Debnam on the other hand has been absolutely dreadful as well. So while I long for the ALP to be booted for being incompetent goons, I cannot in good conscience want a Debnam liberal government. A hung parliament to give the ALP a kick up the arse seems like the only alternative.

  31. mal

    Fair point Minotaur. Debnam definitely lacks that certain something that would allow him to cut through and be heard. To be fair, I think a lot of his mistakes stem from excessive and over zealous attempts to do just that. In some ways, I actually feel quite sorry for him. There’s no doubt that he’s worked his arse off trying to his name and face (and budgie-smugglers) out in front of the public. He hasn’t done it effectively, but cutting through the thick smear of public indifference as an opposition leader must be a bloody hard slog. I think that it was just last week that the SMH was reporting that only about half of the state’s voters actually have a clue who he is.

    My major hope from the election is that Iemma will actually start behaving like a premier once he has an election victory under his belt to validate his authority. At the moment he still acts like someone who’s woken up one morning and discovered he’s become premier. Meanwhile Sartor and Tripodi etc. continue to run around being obnoxious without being told to pull their heads in.

  32. Andrew E

    Times like these call for the bards from Monty Python: it’s four more years of silly government, regardless of the result. Labor might win outright or they’ll govern with a hung parliament like the Coalition did in 1991-95. If you think Iemma is risk-averse now (and he didn’t get where he is today by being bold), wait till you see

    The real action, I suspect, will occur after the election.

    Surest proof of this was when the Roads Minister announced that new roads would be built, but refused to disclose where. In one forgotten incident lies the campaign, if not the state, in microcosm: arrogance, transport, enough urban planning to turn a beautiful setting ugly, and big big bucks.

    I don’t think the prospect of a Kennetting can be ruled out

    If Carl Scully had been elected I’d have bet the rent on it. However, Arbib is simply what is known as “lying” when he says Labor is in any sort of trouble in this election, and neither Arbib or Iemma are damn-the-torpedo Kennett types.

    Oh, and mal: no sensible person need care who Debnam is because he hasn’t made the case that he’d be better. Slightly different emphasis on a few details, but not better. Brogden had the ability to convince people that things would be better if he became Premier, and Baillieu may have that ability next time. Losing Opposition Leaders can only offer slight differences – some, like Latham or Doyle, have what it takes to convince voters that things would be so much worse if they were in government.

  33. Andrew E

    If you think Iemma is risk-averse now (and he didn’t get where he is today by being bold), wait till you see wat he’d be like under a hung parliament.

  34. Benjamin Solah

    Basically, Iemma’s campaign motto is, “We’re shit, but at least we’re trying,’ and Debnam’s is, “I love police, I love police, I love police, workers and Muslims are evil, I love police.’

    I’ll think I’ll go Greens. See what ‘democracy’ under capitalism offers you.

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