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	<title>Comments on: Turkey slap collateral damage II</title>
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		<title>By: Ken Lovell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/09/turkey-slap-collateral-damage-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-353137</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that governments everywhere, or maybe that should be &#039;ruling classes&#039;, are waking up to the threat that the internet poses to the establishment. I&#039;m not suggesting that there&#039;s a deep conspiracy, just an instinctive uneasiness at the prospect of people being able to publish opinions and information in a format that can&#039;t be supervised and controlled if need be by either the executive government or the judiciary.

Maybe the biggest concern is the half-sensed prospect of genuine citizen participation in government. Enough to send shivers down the spine of any politician or bureaucrat.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Home.asp?zPage=Systems&amp;System=PressR&amp;Press=Show&amp;Lang=E&amp;ID=6567&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Egypt&lt;/a&gt; is the latest country to feel the censorship urge.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It seems that Judge Abdel Fattah Morad, head of Alexandria Appeal Court, has started a lawsuit against the government in Egypt’s Administrative Courts in order to block a number of Egyptian websites. The list, 21-websites-long, includes the blogs and sites that took part in the discussion around the book the Judge has written, and the wide plagiarism evident in the book copying HRInfo’s report on Internet Freedoms in the Arab World, and a how-to-blog guide written by blogger Bent Masreya.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Expect a growing muttering from governments everywhere about the need to regulate the net to fix ill-defined problems to do with intellectual property, public decency, privacy, and most of all, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;national security&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (those damn terrurists done sent emails to each other, you know).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that governments everywhere, or maybe that should be &#8216;ruling classes&#8217;, are waking up to the threat that the internet poses to the establishment. I&#8217;m not suggesting that there&#8217;s a deep conspiracy, just an instinctive uneasiness at the prospect of people being able to publish opinions and information in a format that can&#8217;t be supervised and controlled if need be by either the executive government or the judiciary.</p>
<p>Maybe the biggest concern is the half-sensed prospect of genuine citizen participation in government. Enough to send shivers down the spine of any politician or bureaucrat.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Home.asp?zPage=Systems&amp;System=PressR&amp;Press=Show&amp;Lang=E&amp;ID=6567" rel="nofollow">Egypt</a> is the latest country to feel the censorship urge.</p>
<blockquote><p>It seems that Judge Abdel Fattah Morad, head of Alexandria Appeal Court, has started a lawsuit against the government in Egypt’s Administrative Courts in order to block a number of Egyptian websites. The list, 21-websites-long, includes the blogs and sites that took part in the discussion around the book the Judge has written, and the wide plagiarism evident in the book copying HRInfo’s report on Internet Freedoms in the Arab World, and a how-to-blog guide written by blogger Bent Masreya.</p></blockquote>
<p>Expect a growing muttering from governments everywhere about the need to regulate the net to fix ill-defined problems to do with intellectual property, public decency, privacy, and most of all, <strong><em>national security</em></strong> (those damn terrurists done sent emails to each other, you know).</p>
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		<title>By: professor rat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/09/turkey-slap-collateral-damage-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-352923</link>
		<dc:creator>professor rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only social contract I ever signed said FUCK ALL GOVERNMENTS. 
(pardon my French)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only social contract I ever signed said FUCK ALL GOVERNMENTS.<br />
(pardon my French)</p>
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		<title>By: David Jackmanson</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/09/turkey-slap-collateral-damage-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-352864</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jackmanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Its about time, I say!

I clearly remember when Don Finlayson told Abigail that he was homosexual. Right then and there I said there ought to be a law about that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_claim_my_five_pounds&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You are Fred Nile, and I claim my five pounds.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Its about time, I say!</p>
<p>I clearly remember when Don Finlayson told Abigail that he was homosexual. Right then and there I said there ought to be a law about that.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_claim_my_five_pounds" rel="nofollow">You are Fred Nile, and I claim my five pounds.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brendon</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/09/turkey-slap-collateral-damage-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-352861</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its about time, I say!

I clearly remember when Don Finlayson told Abigail that he was homosexual. Right then and there I said there ought to be a law about that.

This country has been going to the dogs ever since. Freedom of speech is all very well if you have something sensible to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its about time, I say!</p>
<p>I clearly remember when Don Finlayson told Abigail that he was homosexual. Right then and there I said there ought to be a law about that.</p>
<p>This country has been going to the dogs ever since. Freedom of speech is all very well if you have something sensible to say.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bath</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/09/turkey-slap-collateral-damage-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-352792</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d recommend bloggers &lt;strong&gt;use a government-sponsored blog with guaranteed readership by politicians&lt;/strong&gt; to protest (and parliamentary privilege) : make a submission when it gets to committee after the first reading. Here at  deadroo we&#039;ve started to keep track of bills accepting submissions and encouraging people to get involved - even a couple of paras helps.  I even appeared to have a win.

See http://www.deadroo.com/index.php/participation/ and subsequent  posts (with the tag Democracy) for details - then maybe do something similar within your own discussion groups.

Spending 5% of your normal blogging time reading and commenting to the &quot;official parliamentary blog&quot; would make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend bloggers <strong>use a government-sponsored blog with guaranteed readership by politicians</strong> to protest (and parliamentary privilege) : make a submission when it gets to committee after the first reading. Here at  deadroo we&#8217;ve started to keep track of bills accepting submissions and encouraging people to get involved &#8211; even a couple of paras helps.  I even appeared to have a win.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.deadroo.com/index.php/participation/" rel="nofollow">http://www.deadroo.com/index.php/participation/</a> and subsequent  posts (with the tag Democracy) for details &#8211; then maybe do something similar within your own discussion groups.</p>
<p>Spending 5% of your normal blogging time reading and commenting to the &#8220;official parliamentary blog&#8221; would make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/09/turkey-slap-collateral-damage-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-352791</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21352114-601,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;writing references &lt;/a&gt;is about to be slapped too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21352114-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">writing references </a>is about to be slapped too!</p>
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		<title>By: wbb</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/09/turkey-slap-collateral-damage-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-352775</link>
		<dc:creator>wbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of which - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2377770,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Turkey has slapped a ban on youtube&lt;/a&gt;  today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of which &#8211; <a href="http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2377770,00.html" rel="nofollow">Turkey has slapped a ban on youtube</a>  today.</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/09/turkey-slap-collateral-damage-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-352770</link>
		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate this government

my blog is definitely rated MA15 , but only because infantile minds like Coonan&#039;s would not want to understand half of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate this government</p>
<p>my blog is definitely rated MA15 , but only because infantile minds like Coonan&#8217;s would not want to understand half of it.</p>
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