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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/16/lessons-from-my-lai/#comment-198186</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Returning to the original post topic, can you imagine any MSM outlet now having the sheer bloody dirty provacative guts to do &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.georgelois.com/Esq.calley.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

Uggh! Yuck! Wild! Sick! Crazy! And if that was your response to the image, imagine your response to being in that village on that day. On either end of a M16.

And speaking of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHklGtW3rwU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Top Gun&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;d get on Kelly&#039;s tail anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Returning to the original post topic, can you imagine any MSM outlet now having the sheer bloody dirty provacative guts to do <a href="http://www.georgelois.com/Esq.calley.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<p>Uggh! Yuck! Wild! Sick! Crazy! And if that was your response to the image, imagine your response to being in that village on that day. On either end of a M16.</p>
<p>And speaking of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHklGtW3rwU" rel="nofollow">Top Gun</a>, I&#8217;d get on Kelly&#8217;s tail anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Halfweeg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/16/lessons-from-my-lai/#comment-198185</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Halfweeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hey, Brendan, your tautology is your problem. I’m switching to guns, too close for missiles.&lt;/i&gt;

If you need me to spell it out, I was making a glib reference to marxist-style language:

&#039;religion is the opiate of the masses&#039;

Although I&#039;m sure a person of your indepth knowledge needn&#039;t have such reference clarified.

Top Gun is a good popcorn movie though.  Apparently one of the US Navy&#039;s requirements before giving permission to use their equipment in the film was to make Kelly McGillis&#039;s character civilian rather than a commissioned officer, since fraternization between officers is against regulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hey, Brendan, your tautology is your problem. I’m switching to guns, too close for missiles.</i></p>
<p>If you need me to spell it out, I was making a glib reference to marxist-style language:</p>
<p>&#8216;religion is the opiate of the masses&#8217;</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m sure a person of your indepth knowledge needn&#8217;t have such reference clarified.</p>
<p>Top Gun is a good popcorn movie though.  Apparently one of the US Navy&#8217;s requirements before giving permission to use their equipment in the film was to make Kelly McGillis&#8217;s character civilian rather than a commissioned officer, since fraternization between officers is against regulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiasco da Gama</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/16/lessons-from-my-lai/#comment-198184</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiasco da Gama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Brendan, your tautology is your problem. I&#039;m switching to guns, too close for missiles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Brendan, your tautology is your problem. I&#8217;m switching to guns, too close for missiles.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Halfweeg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/16/lessons-from-my-lai/#comment-198183</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Halfweeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Um, Top Gun is Top Gun for the masses. Great movie.&lt;/i&gt;

Dolt.  I never thought of Top Gun as mass entertainment before, thanks for pointing out my mistake.  I guess my comparison of them as having propaganda value to certain stakeholders is completely invalid.  Top Gun surely didn&#039;t make life in the Navy look romantic and exciting, and The Motorcycle Diaries surely didn&#039;t paint the Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara as a romantic young idealogue.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Um, Top Gun is Top Gun for the masses. Great movie.</i></p>
<p>Dolt.  I never thought of Top Gun as mass entertainment before, thanks for pointing out my mistake.  I guess my comparison of them as having propaganda value to certain stakeholders is completely invalid.  Top Gun surely didn&#8217;t make life in the Navy look romantic and exciting, and The Motorcycle Diaries surely didn&#8217;t paint the Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara as a romantic young idealogue.</p>
<p>[/sarcasm off]</p>
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		<title>By: Fiasco da Gama</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/16/lessons-from-my-lai/#comment-198182</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiasco da Gama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, I share your regard for the quality of the training ADF personnel receive, and their reputation for professionalism. I don&#039;t think I said anything against them apart from pointing out that the whole function of military training is to break the otherwise fairly universal moral taboo against killing in cold blood.
Brendan H. and Katz, as for icons whose behaviour would be worth emulating as well as screen-printing, how about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4313282.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shopping bag man&lt;/a&gt;?
By the way, Brendan:
&lt;blockquote&gt;A Top Gun for the masses, if you wish.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Um, Top Gun is Top Gun for the masses. Great movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, I share your regard for the quality of the training ADF personnel receive, and their reputation for professionalism. I don&#8217;t think I said anything against them apart from pointing out that the whole function of military training is to break the otherwise fairly universal moral taboo against killing in cold blood.<br />
Brendan H. and Katz, as for icons whose behaviour would be worth emulating as well as screen-printing, how about the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4313282.stm" rel="nofollow">shopping bag man</a>?<br />
By the way, Brendan:</p>
<blockquote><p>A Top Gun for the masses, if you wish.</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, Top Gun is Top Gun for the masses. Great movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Pamela Bone: &quot;I want to make the world a better place. But TEH LEFT is stopping me from doing it.&quot;

Let&#039;s have a bit of perspective here Pamela.

1. What has TEH LEFT done to prevent the mission to take a Beacon of Light to the Middle East?

2. If TEH LEFT had shut up, would Bush&#039;s Folly have been less of a fiasco?

3. Are the Jihadists sitting in the Madrassas in Various Islamic Hell-Holes expostulating to each other: &quot;By the Prophet&#039;s Beard, those Infidel posters on Larvatus Prodeo have provided much assistance in bringing about the Caliphate!&quot;

Of course not. The very thought is utterly risible.

Therefore, Pamela, the source of your failure is not to be found in Lefty obstruction. The source of your failure is to be found in your own ignorance, arrogance and complacency.
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PS, Bonism seems to be catching. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/ahmadinejad-a-good-man-an-odd-world/2007/03/18/1174152875959.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Julie Szego &lt;/a&gt;in the Age commits the same special pleading</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Pamela Bone: &#8220;I want to make the world a better place. But TEH LEFT is stopping me from doing it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have a bit of perspective here Pamela.</p>
<p>1. What has TEH LEFT done to prevent the mission to take a Beacon of Light to the Middle East?</p>
<p>2. If TEH LEFT had shut up, would Bush&#8217;s Folly have been less of a fiasco?</p>
<p>3. Are the Jihadists sitting in the Madrassas in Various Islamic Hell-Holes expostulating to each other: &#8220;By the Prophet&#8217;s Beard, those Infidel posters on Larvatus Prodeo have provided much assistance in bringing about the Caliphate!&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course not. The very thought is utterly risible.</p>
<p>Therefore, Pamela, the source of your failure is not to be found in Lefty obstruction. The source of your failure is to be found in your own ignorance, arrogance and complacency.<br />
____________________-</p>
<p>PS, Bonism seems to be catching. <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/ahmadinejad-a-good-man-an-odd-world/2007/03/18/1174152875959.html" rel="nofollow">Julie Szego </a>in the Age commits the same special pleading</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Halfweeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan Halfweeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So you do perceive Che as something other than a terrorist (that’s a new one btw) and a mass murderer.

Case closed.&lt;/i&gt;

OK.  If you say so.  Good luck with using such an obvious tyrant as a poster boy.

Global Warming.  What would Che do?

Kill every m--- f--- who disagrees with him, that&#039;s what.  Bring the revolution home.  Peace, bro.

Che is an easy target that socialists and other left wing people would be best to excommunicate from the cause.  You don&#039;t have to be idealogical to hate his crimes against humanity.  Movies like The Motorcycle Diaries are good propaganda for the proletariat if you do want to claim his legacy though.  A Top Gun for the masses, if you wish.

Libertarians have the same issue with Pinochet, someone we should repudiate absolutely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So you do perceive Che as something other than a terrorist (that’s a new one btw) and a mass murderer.</p>
<p>Case closed.</i></p>
<p>OK.  If you say so.  Good luck with using such an obvious tyrant as a poster boy.</p>
<p>Global Warming.  What would Che do?</p>
<p>Kill every m&#8212; f&#8212; who disagrees with him, that&#8217;s what.  Bring the revolution home.  Peace, bro.</p>
<p>Che is an easy target that socialists and other left wing people would be best to excommunicate from the cause.  You don&#8217;t have to be idealogical to hate his crimes against humanity.  Movies like The Motorcycle Diaries are good propaganda for the proletariat if you do want to claim his legacy though.  A Top Gun for the masses, if you wish.</p>
<p>Libertarians have the same issue with Pinochet, someone we should repudiate absolutely.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m pretty sure the legacy of The Motorcycle Diares does not outweigh his legacy as a terrorist and murderer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So you do perceive Che as something other than a terrorist (that&#039;s a new one btw) and a mass murderer.

Case closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m pretty sure the legacy of The Motorcycle Diares does not outweigh his legacy as a terrorist and murderer.</p></blockquote>
<p>So you do perceive Che as something other than a terrorist (that&#8217;s a new one btw) and a mass murderer.</p>
<p>Case closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Halfweeg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/16/lessons-from-my-lai/#comment-198178</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Halfweeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I would suggest that even you perceive Che Guevara as something other than a murderous criminal, for example as the writer of an entertaining travel diary, perhaps.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m pretty sure the legacy of The Motorcycle Diares does not outweigh his legacy as a terrorist and murderer.  If he&#039;d written a series of travel diaries, he may not have had time to commit his more bloody deeds.

Those t-shirts in the market aren&#039;t about memorialising his efforts to document mid-twentieth century South American life as seen through the eyes of a idealogical young Argentinian.

Talk about making the wrong career choice, he could have been a travel writer for Lonely Planet (or it&#039;s equivalent back then), rather than a Marxist revolutionary guerilla.

I won&#039;t even mention another idealogically driven individual who wanted to be an artist but isn&#039;t remembered for his art.  Oops, I just did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I would suggest that even you perceive Che Guevara as something other than a murderous criminal, for example as the writer of an entertaining travel diary, perhaps.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure the legacy of The Motorcycle Diares does not outweigh his legacy as a terrorist and murderer.  If he&#8217;d written a series of travel diaries, he may not have had time to commit his more bloody deeds.</p>
<p>Those t-shirts in the market aren&#8217;t about memorialising his efforts to document mid-twentieth century South American life as seen through the eyes of a idealogical young Argentinian.</p>
<p>Talk about making the wrong career choice, he could have been a travel writer for Lonely Planet (or it&#8217;s equivalent back then), rather than a Marxist revolutionary guerilla.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even mention another idealogically driven individual who wanted to be an artist but isn&#8217;t remembered for his art.  Oops, I just did.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Invoking Che Guevara as anything other than a murderous criminal deflates socialist causes enormously.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perfervid rhetoric seldom convinces.

I would suggest that even you perceive Che Guevara as &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt; other than a murderous criminal, for example as the writer of an entertaining travel diary, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Invoking Che Guevara as anything other than a murderous criminal deflates socialist causes enormously.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perfervid rhetoric seldom convinces.</p>
<p>I would suggest that even you perceive Che Guevara as <em>something</em> other than a murderous criminal, for example as the writer of an entertaining travel diary, perhaps.</p>
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