Comments on: Indifference 2007: Decision Day

By: Bernice

Bernice — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:18:10 +0000

Thanks Poll Bludge ( & thanks for your posts last night too) – in that case, Pru puts her nose in front…though ALP workers were saying that pre-poll sentiment was much the same as at the booths yesterday. Annoyance at the parachute act, annoyance at the silly plan to pipe water from Queanbeyan to Goulburn (did Mr O’Farrell come up with that one?) and a lot of anti-Howard hostility, even from CDP & Liberal Party workers.

By: The Poll Bludger

The Poll Bludger — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:04:02 +0000

Alas Bernice, it is normal for 3000-4000 voters in any given seat to neglect to perform their civic duty. There should be about 7000 pre-polls, postals and absentees, which is fairly typical.

By: David Jackmanson

David Jackmanson — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:56:37 +0000

Sacha Blumen is absolutely correct.

Jo’s original comment http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/24/indifference-2007-decision-day/#comment-356443 was insulting: “the party endorsed some bimbo newsreader”.

Assuming that jo is correct in describing the newsreader as:

a candidate who didnt belong to the party, who was parachuted into the position by sussex st, someone who had been talking with the liberals about joining their party, FFS! and has no ideas, or track record

(and these are good arguments against the suitability of a candidate) it’s still a long step from there to call someone a degrading term like ‘bimbo’.

You don’t have to have respect for a person to display respectful, non-insulting behaviour towards them. was insulting: “the party endorsed some bimbo newsreader”.

Assuming that jo is correct in describing the newsreader as:

a candidate who didn’t belong to the party, who was parachuted into the position by Sussex St, someone who had been talking with the Liberals about joining their party, FFS! and has no ideas, or track record

(and these are good arguments against the suitability of a candidate) it’s still a long step from there to call someone a degrading term like ‘bimbo’.

You don’t have to have respect for a person to display respectful, non-insulting behaviour towards them.

By: Bernice

Bernice — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:43:40 +0000

Trifle confused though re Goulburn – the count stopped last night at about 36 000, with all booths posting votes. But the total roll is for 47 000 – 11 000 postal & absentee?!! Or are there a lot of contested slips? The scrutineers I came across didnt seem the hanging chad types…
Can’t get any sense out of Electoral Commission website. Anyone…?
On the basis of last night’s figures Pru aint lookin’ too sure at all. & before all the Libs (except Mr O’Farrell) squwarkkkk about the unfairness of an independent gaining the seat with only 25% of the primary, Pru may muster 40%, but the combined non-Liberal primary vote looks like Ind 25%, ALP 22% and Greens 6% = 53% of votes so far counted. And the Greens placed Stephenson the Ind. second & ALP third on their htvs. Prudence a distant fourth.

By: steve

steve — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 00:40:00 +0000

Sorry Sacha, have to agree with Jo on this one. Respect can not be imposed on anybody. Either earn it or don’t have it. Brave people have been executed for refusing to show respect for people who are undeserving of respect and it will ever be so.
Your writings here at LP have earned you respect from me. This argument here does not add to it because it just does not ring true.

By: Guy

Guy — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:35:15 +0000

I had an interesting conversation with a guy from Bangladesh who was handing out for the Democrats. Apparently he lives in a campervan and is winding his way around Australia, after doing something similar abroad. He was handing out as a favour for a friend and didn’t really seem to have any specific allegiance to the Dems.

The lower house results were for the most part predictable. Labor will take particular heart from the results seats like Penrith and Monaro, where Karyn Paluzzano and Steve Whan recorded swings to them, against the statewide trend.

The upper house results will be interesting. The Goulburn stoush with Pru Goward should be interesting and will be very important for the Liberal Party.

By: Sacha Blumen

Sacha Blumen — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:20:34 +0000

WTF??? – you earn respect. you don’t demand respect.

No Jo, every person demands respect as of right.

If you choose to not respect someone because they don’t live up to what you see as appropriate standards for an ALP election candidate, well, of course you need not respect them. If you call them “some bimbo newsreader”, you should not be surprised if, in the future, someone labelled you so similarly nastily.

Everyone deserves personal respect.

By: Mr T

Mr T — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:10:21 +0000

There seem to be a lot of Brisbane people here – you have Pete and Anna – oh well. We in NSW now have Morris and his band of boofy blokes for another 4 years. Pete and his girl seem remarkably benign actually, especially Anna – from an AO6 in DEVETIR to Queen Cheese. Mighty Morris is off for a few beers after his “win” tonight – god help us! Thank heavens I have a few more bottles of my friend Dom to help me through the night! – and to think, I actually voted Labor today……

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:34:50 +0000

Chris Sheil looks at the federal implications at Troppo:

http://www.clubtroppo.com.au/2007/03/24/two-decades-of-nsw-labor/

I agree with him about the Work Choices effect – certainly both the prominence of the advertising and the distribution of swings would suggest it may well have been there.

There was also the contrast of Rudd lending support to Iemma’s campaign and Howard being used to increase Debnam’s negatives.

By: jo

jo — Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:32:48 +0000

get a grip sacha…..

i have alot of disrespect for a candidate who didnt belong to the party, who was parachuted into the position by sussex st, someone who had been talking with the liberals about joining their party, FFS! and has no ideas, or track record – (compared to star recruits like Garrett)

Osborne (the Greens candidate) was commenting on the claim by the October 28 Newcastle Herald that the first media release issued by the endorsed ALP candidate for the seat, former NBN TV newsreader Jodi McKay, was a â??doughnutâ?? â?? a generic media release originating from NSW Laborâ??s Sydney head office.

Reading scripts from Sussex St….no wonder they picked her for the job….

And as for her “blank moment” when couldn’t remember Beattie’s name – “I could see his face – but I just couldn’t remember his name” again – all a bit harder without the autocue….

As for your risible

Do you demand that others give you respect? If so, then you should respect others.

WTF??? – you earn respect. you don’t demand respect.