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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/26/rats-sinking-ship-etc-iii-2/#comment-199746</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a heavyduty,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/pyne-review-clears-santoro/2007/03/27/1174761453201.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tough investigation &lt;/a&gt;it was! Neither Santo or Egan got interviewed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a heavyduty,<a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/pyne-review-clears-santoro/2007/03/27/1174761453201.html" rel="nofollow">tough investigation </a>it was! Neither Santo or Egan got interviewed!</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make it two issues cleared up Obby but it still fits into any definition of coruption to have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21455980-1702,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Caesar investigating and clearing Caesar.&lt;/a&gt; Open,honest, accountable government would be a nice change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make it two issues cleared up Obby but it still fits into any definition of coruption to have <a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21455980-1702,00.html" rel="nofollow">Caesar investigating and clearing Caesar.</a> Open,honest, accountable government would be a nice change.</p>
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		<title>By: via collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>via collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s encouraging that you see the Hicks plea as a victory for the Howard govt Obby, as sure a sign as any that it&#039;ll backfire.

While you &amp; a smattering of small tim acolytes still bang the bully drum, the punters have moved on Obby, all pumped on all justice &amp; a fair go. Stick your head out into the smoko room. It&#039;s 2007, Guantanamo may have been a good idea for a year or two, but it&#039;s been as out-dated as a Howard Vision of the Future for a while now.

When the Herald Sun letters page is regularly choked with letters demanding Hicks gets a fair go, there&#039;s been a crossover Obby old chap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s encouraging that you see the Hicks plea as a victory for the Howard govt Obby, as sure a sign as any that it&#8217;ll backfire.</p>
<p>While you &amp; a smattering of small tim acolytes still bang the bully drum, the punters have moved on Obby, all pumped on all justice &amp; a fair go. Stick your head out into the smoko room. It&#8217;s 2007, Guantanamo may have been a good idea for a year or two, but it&#8217;s been as out-dated as a Howard Vision of the Future for a while now.</p>
<p>When the Herald Sun letters page is regularly choked with letters demanding Hicks gets a fair go, there&#8217;s been a crossover Obby old chap.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/03/26/rats-sinking-ship-etc-iii-2/#comment-199743</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The US military commission prosecutors and Hicks&#039; defence lawyers now have to thrash out a plea agreement, with the judge setting a deadline of 6am (AEST) on Tuesday, which is expected to spell out what sentence he will serve.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From Obby&#039;s link above.

I&#039;m amazed if Hicks has indeed pled guilty before knowing the tariff he&#039;s going to cop.

BTW Obby, you&#039;re still weird.

1. Not so long ago Hicks was facing a charge of attempted murder. What was the truth value of that charge, hmmm? Should Hicks have pled guilty to that charge?

2. Maybe Hicks could have been induced to pleading guilty to shooting from the Grassy Knoll. This would have cleared up a very perplexing mystery very neatly for the US authorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The US military commission prosecutors and Hicks&#8217; defence lawyers now have to thrash out a plea agreement, with the judge setting a deadline of 6am (AEST) on Tuesday, which is expected to spell out what sentence he will serve.</p></blockquote>
<p>From Obby&#8217;s link above.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed if Hicks has indeed pled guilty before knowing the tariff he&#8217;s going to cop.</p>
<p>BTW Obby, you&#8217;re still weird.</p>
<p>1. Not so long ago Hicks was facing a charge of attempted murder. What was the truth value of that charge, hmmm? Should Hicks have pled guilty to that charge?</p>
<p>2. Maybe Hicks could have been induced to pleading guilty to shooting from the Grassy Knoll. This would have cleared up a very perplexing mystery very neatly for the US authorities.</p>
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		<title>By: observa</title>
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		<dc:creator>observa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 03:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it would appear that govt has cleared up one issue that was supposed to be a real hot election issue steve
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=95654
Could have saved all the usual suspects heaps of handwringing and hair pulling years ago, if he&#039;d only told the truth then.
We&#039;ll have to pay to keep the terrorist mongrel in Yatala now, when the Yanks were doing a perfectly good job of paying to keep him at Gitmo. Overfeeding him by the sounds of it too, in between the torture sessions of course.

A week&#039;s a long time in politics as they say eh steve?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it would appear that govt has cleared up one issue that was supposed to be a real hot election issue steve<br />
<a href="http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=95654" rel="nofollow">http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=95654</a><br />
Could have saved all the usual suspects heaps of handwringing and hair pulling years ago, if he&#8217;d only told the truth then.<br />
We&#8217;ll have to pay to keep the terrorist mongrel in Yatala now, when the Yanks were doing a perfectly good job of paying to keep him at Gitmo. Overfeeding him by the sounds of it too, in between the torture sessions of course.</p>
<p>A week&#8217;s a long time in politics as they say eh steve?.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obby, I&#039;m predicting more of the same rubbish we&#039;ve had for the past eleven years until the voters turn on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obby, I&#8217;m predicting more of the same rubbish we&#8217;ve had for the past eleven years until the voters turn on them.</p>
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		<title>By: observa</title>
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		<dc:creator>observa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steve, I&#039;m predicting the govt hangs on by a seat or two but Howard loses Bennelong and smirky has to try extra hard to wipe the smirk off as he announces its a dark day for the Libs and he&#039;s taken onboard the voter&#039;s message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve, I&#8217;m predicting the govt hangs on by a seat or two but Howard loses Bennelong and smirky has to try extra hard to wipe the smirk off as he announces its a dark day for the Libs and he&#8217;s taken onboard the voter&#8217;s message.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obby, the Libs at this stage are not in the race and are going backwards on a daily basis. Yesterday, in question time Hockey could not answer even the most fundamental questions about workchoices and Howard had to answer for him to cover his backside.

Incompetence showing up at this level is not a good look. Howard had the chance to hand over to Costello last year but couldn&#039;t.  He had another chance this year when he had the first reshuffle and  bkinked again. Now it is too late and he will go down in history as a failure who was too greeedy to quit while he was ahead.  Eleven squandered years will be his legacy to Australia.

Workchoices is just an ideological obsession of Howard&#039;s which is over the top and everybody knows it. Interest rates have mainly come about from inflationary pressure due to the higher oil prices flowing from the Iraq fiasco and poorly targeted tax cuts in successive budgets.

The drought has also had an impact and so far the Federal Government have done very little to help pay for fixing the dwindling water supply to Brisbane.

Housing affordability expressed as increasing rental costs and worsening home ownership affordability have also not been addressed by this government.

So there is much to be done and probably not enough time for them to do much aboout their intractable problems.  Open warfare has broken out in the Queensland Liberal factions and it is getting sillier every day.

Voters will not  tolerate this level of disunity and while I encourage them to fight at every opportunity, each day means their chances of reelection diminish and this is a good thing. If they can&#039;t govern themselves then they can&#039;t govern Australia and do not desrve to either.

Now we have got a higher Australian dollar and the Current Account figures will be blowing out even more. We are importiing heaps; exporting little. Good economic manager they are not, fools? -  definately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obby, the Libs at this stage are not in the race and are going backwards on a daily basis. Yesterday, in question time Hockey could not answer even the most fundamental questions about workchoices and Howard had to answer for him to cover his backside.</p>
<p>Incompetence showing up at this level is not a good look. Howard had the chance to hand over to Costello last year but couldn&#8217;t.  He had another chance this year when he had the first reshuffle and  bkinked again. Now it is too late and he will go down in history as a failure who was too greeedy to quit while he was ahead.  Eleven squandered years will be his legacy to Australia.</p>
<p>Workchoices is just an ideological obsession of Howard&#8217;s which is over the top and everybody knows it. Interest rates have mainly come about from inflationary pressure due to the higher oil prices flowing from the Iraq fiasco and poorly targeted tax cuts in successive budgets.</p>
<p>The drought has also had an impact and so far the Federal Government have done very little to help pay for fixing the dwindling water supply to Brisbane.</p>
<p>Housing affordability expressed as increasing rental costs and worsening home ownership affordability have also not been addressed by this government.</p>
<p>So there is much to be done and probably not enough time for them to do much aboout their intractable problems.  Open warfare has broken out in the Queensland Liberal factions and it is getting sillier every day.</p>
<p>Voters will not  tolerate this level of disunity and while I encourage them to fight at every opportunity, each day means their chances of reelection diminish and this is a good thing. If they can&#8217;t govern themselves then they can&#8217;t govern Australia and do not desrve to either.</p>
<p>Now we have got a higher Australian dollar and the Current Account figures will be blowing out even more. We are importiing heaps; exporting little. Good economic manager they are not, fools? &#8211;  definately.</p>
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		<title>By: observa</title>
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		<dc:creator>observa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And imagine if Labor lose? From what I hear about NSW, that will be a referendum on Workchoices once and for all now won&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And imagine if Labor lose? From what I hear about NSW, that will be a referendum on Workchoices once and for all now won&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: observa</title>
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		<dc:creator>observa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know about miracles steve. Tampa was an opportunity to say enough is enough and it was electorally popular as it transpired. There was still a huge international chess game that went on and Howard held his nerve and offshoring began as neighbours stepped in to break a deadlock. Howard stared them all down as you might recall. He clearly thinks he can do it again with iraq and Workchoices and I&#039;m not so sure he can&#039;t. He went to the polls with a GST remember? If diehard Labor supporters were really honest, they&#039;d wish their Party was in the Govt&#039;s position and that&#039;s not just because the have their bums on the seats. There are still 14 seats?? to win back and as candidate slip ups like Tony Zappia&#039;s in Makin has shown, not every marginal seat may succumb to the current polls. I&#039;d put it like this. I&#039;m a Power supporter and like our chances with some fresh talent strutting its stuff pre-season. I&#039;m quietly guffawing at the problems of the WC Eagles right now, but if I were honest, I still like their chances for the flag again over my team. They may win another flag before Howard goes to the polls too remember. That&#039;s because the season proper hasn&#039;t begun yet. We&#039;ll see, but as Brisbane found, it gets harder over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know about miracles steve. Tampa was an opportunity to say enough is enough and it was electorally popular as it transpired. There was still a huge international chess game that went on and Howard held his nerve and offshoring began as neighbours stepped in to break a deadlock. Howard stared them all down as you might recall. He clearly thinks he can do it again with iraq and Workchoices and I&#8217;m not so sure he can&#8217;t. He went to the polls with a GST remember? If diehard Labor supporters were really honest, they&#8217;d wish their Party was in the Govt&#8217;s position and that&#8217;s not just because the have their bums on the seats. There are still 14 seats?? to win back and as candidate slip ups like Tony Zappia&#8217;s in Makin has shown, not every marginal seat may succumb to the current polls. I&#8217;d put it like this. I&#8217;m a Power supporter and like our chances with some fresh talent strutting its stuff pre-season. I&#8217;m quietly guffawing at the problems of the WC Eagles right now, but if I were honest, I still like their chances for the flag again over my team. They may win another flag before Howard goes to the polls too remember. That&#8217;s because the season proper hasn&#8217;t begun yet. We&#8217;ll see, but as Brisbane found, it gets harder over time.</p>
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