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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191268</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read through the controversy and I believe it goes something like this:

There was an allegation of someone giggling at McCain&#039;s press conference. It is believed that Michael Ware has giggled at sometime in his life so with his presence at the press conference but no indication that it was actually Ware, he is therefore the culprit (based on his past history of giggling) even though video evidence and testimony from other reporters present offers no support for this view. And since neo-cons don&#039;t like Ware, what the hell and lets create faux outrage because it is much better than dealing with the implications of McCain&#039;s pathetic stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read through the controversy and I believe it goes something like this:</p>
<p>There was an allegation of someone giggling at McCain&#8217;s press conference. It is believed that Michael Ware has giggled at sometime in his life so with his presence at the press conference but no indication that it was actually Ware, he is therefore the culprit (based on his past history of giggling) even though video evidence and testimony from other reporters present offers no support for this view. And since neo-cons don&#8217;t like Ware, what the hell and lets create faux outrage because it is much better than dealing with the implications of McCain&#8217;s pathetic stunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191267</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Drudge have one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Drudge have one?</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191266</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/04/smearing-matt-drudge.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jon Swift is worried that the backfiring accusation against Ware may harm Drudge&#039;s reputation.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/04/smearing-matt-drudge.html" rel="nofollow">Jon Swift is worried that the backfiring accusation against Ware may harm Drudge&#8217;s reputation.</a></p>
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		<title>By: hannah</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191265</link>
		<dc:creator>hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 07:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know there are some really scary elements to McCain&#039;s stunt.
1.Did he really presume that 100 soldier escort/helicopters above/clear the area etc equals a stroll in the park?
What sort of mentality does that show?
When the soldiers and the choppers and the body armour materialized why didn&#039;t he realize that there was something wrong with his basic premise and abort the stunt?
2.Did he really presume that everybody, including the mainstream media, would presume that the body guard is irrelevant to the stunt and expect commentators to agree that Baghdad is safe? that nobody would notice the body armour or the fells with guns?
&quot;The willing suspension of disbelief&quot;.
3.Does he, and his colleague who likened it to a walk in Indiana, [if I was the Indiana Tourist Bureau I&#039;d be a little bit unhappy about that reference] really truly expect the public to swallow their story hook line and sinker without question?

It all adds up to a massive dis-connect with reality on all sorts of levels, and lack of concern about same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know there are some really scary elements to McCain&#8217;s stunt.<br />
1.Did he really presume that 100 soldier escort/helicopters above/clear the area etc equals a stroll in the park?<br />
What sort of mentality does that show?<br />
When the soldiers and the choppers and the body armour materialized why didn&#8217;t he realize that there was something wrong with his basic premise and abort the stunt?<br />
2.Did he really presume that everybody, including the mainstream media, would presume that the body guard is irrelevant to the stunt and expect commentators to agree that Baghdad is safe? that nobody would notice the body armour or the fells with guns?<br />
&#8220;The willing suspension of disbelief&#8221;.<br />
3.Does he, and his colleague who likened it to a walk in Indiana, [if I was the Indiana Tourist Bureau I'd be a little bit unhappy about that reference] really truly expect the public to swallow their story hook line and sinker without question?</p>
<p>It all adds up to a massive dis-connect with reality on all sorts of levels, and lack of concern about same.</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out Of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191264</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out Of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The allegation that Ware heckled McCain was made by an &lt;i&gt;unnamed source&lt;/i&gt; on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_reporter_slams_Drudges_charge_that_0402.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drudge Report&lt;/a&gt;. That&#039;s hardly journalistic gold, and disproved quite trivially by watching &lt;i&gt;the actual press conference in which the affair was supposed to take place&lt;/i&gt;.

A shame it happened, but probably inevitable. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised that Drudge feels personally threatened by Michael Ware, and his &quot;I don&#039;t suffer fools gladly&quot; stare. Maybe because the former plays at being a journalist, and the latter really is one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The allegation that Ware heckled McCain was made by an <i>unnamed source</i> on the <a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_reporter_slams_Drudges_charge_that_0402.html" rel="nofollow">Drudge Report</a>. That&#8217;s hardly journalistic gold, and disproved quite trivially by watching <i>the actual press conference in which the affair was supposed to take place</i>.</p>
<p>A shame it happened, but probably inevitable. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised that Drudge feels personally threatened by Michael Ware, and his &#8220;I don&#8217;t suffer fools gladly&#8221; stare. Maybe because the former plays at being a journalist, and the latter really is one.</p>
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		<title>By: Enemy Combatant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enemy Combatant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surge McCain, Mesopotamian Maverick, foresakes Straight-Talk Express for &quot;spontaneous&quot;stroll down Baghdad&#039;s Bullshit Boulevarde.

 Shoulda stayed on the bus. PR-wise he&#039;s now damaged goods.  Makes him unelectable for the office he craves. Big Giuli&#039;ll be jumpin&#039; for joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surge McCain, Mesopotamian Maverick, foresakes Straight-Talk Express for &#8220;spontaneous&#8221;stroll down Baghdad&#8217;s Bullshit Boulevarde.</p>
<p> Shoulda stayed on the bus. PR-wise he&#8217;s now damaged goods.  Makes him unelectable for the office he craves. Big Giuli&#8217;ll be jumpin&#8217; for joy.</p>
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		<title>By: GoAwayBrownie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191262</link>
		<dc:creator>GoAwayBrownie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In support of your opinion re McCain protection:
I am informed by Vanity Fair magazine April issue feature
 on Tim Spicer, ex-Sandhurst, Ex-Sand&lt;i&gt;line&lt;/i&gt;,
that he has a US$293 million contract from the pentagon,
 to provide security in Iraq, and that seems to consist of
&quot;subduing xenophobic-Iraquis-with-guns&quot;.
One would think that was the job of the military, but wait, there&#039;s more:

The UK Government Accountability Department reveals that there are at least 48,000 &lt;i&gt;private military&lt;/i&gt; contractors in Iraq.

Google ERINYS, AEGIS, Executive Outcomes.
The conclusion I am drawing from this, is that similar to outsourcing everywhere else, these people are proxy-military, but if they are killed, they don&#039;t add to the War Casualties Toll.
Scary, possums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In support of your opinion re McCain protection:<br />
I am informed by Vanity Fair magazine April issue feature<br />
 on Tim Spicer, ex-Sandhurst, Ex-Sand<i>line</i>,<br />
that he has a US$293 million contract from the pentagon,<br />
 to provide security in Iraq, and that seems to consist of<br />
&#8220;subduing xenophobic-Iraquis-with-guns&#8221;.<br />
One would think that was the job of the military, but wait, there&#8217;s more:</p>
<p>The UK Government Accountability Department reveals that there are at least 48,000 <i>private military</i> contractors in Iraq.</p>
<p>Google ERINYS, AEGIS, Executive Outcomes.<br />
The conclusion I am drawing from this, is that similar to outsourcing everywhere else, these people are proxy-military, but if they are killed, they don&#8217;t add to the War Casualties Toll.<br />
Scary, possums.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191261</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget inexpensive, Shaun.  What a bargain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget inexpensive, Shaun.  What a bargain!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191260</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, to make Baghad safe, each citizen just needs 100 ground troops, a bulletproof vest, a few snipers on the lookout, three Blackhawk helicopters and two Apache gunships.

All too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, to make Baghad safe, each citizen just needs 100 ground troops, a bulletproof vest, a few snipers on the lookout, three Blackhawk helicopters and two Apache gunships.</p>
<p>All too easy.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/04/quip-of-the-week-journalist-division/#comment-191259</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to see everywhere I go rated by the Paris-bicycle-bikini safety system.

Is Circular Quay Paris-bicycle-bikini safe? And just how safe is that?  How many Paris-bicycle-bikinis could safely ride there?

How many Paris-bicycle-bikinis could safely ride around the oval at the AFL Grand Final? Or the Sydney Mardi Gras parade? Hmmmmmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to see everywhere I go rated by the Paris-bicycle-bikini safety system.</p>
<p>Is Circular Quay Paris-bicycle-bikini safe? And just how safe is that?  How many Paris-bicycle-bikinis could safely ride there?</p>
<p>How many Paris-bicycle-bikinis could safely ride around the oval at the AFL Grand Final? Or the Sydney Mardi Gras parade? Hmmmmmm?</p>
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