Comments on: When will your disastrous numbers come up? http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:37:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Fiasco da Gama http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192318 Fiasco da Gama Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:24:08 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192318 Rats, sinking ships, John. You'd better hope Kaptain Krudd lets you on his boat. Rats, sinking ships, John. You’d better hope Kaptain Krudd lets you on his boat.

]]> By: steve munn http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192317 steve munn Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:49:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192317 link for the above quote: http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/loggers-barter-for-vast-forest/2007/04/11/1175971180229.html link for the above quote: http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/loggers-barter-for-vast-forest/2007/04/11/1175971180229.html

]]> By: steve munn http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192316 steve munn Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:49:23 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192316 I sez on 11/4/2007: "Green leaning folk need to take a reality check. We need timber products and they have to come from somewhere. At the moment a significant proportion of our timber products come from illegal and/or unsustainable operations in developing countries like Indonesia. This situation will only get worse if radical Greens have their way and we â??protectâ?? too much native forest from logging." According to The Age on 12/4/2007: "RAINFOREST covering an area almost the size of Britain has been obtained by a group of European and American industrial logging companies in return for minimal taxes and gifts of salt, sugar and tools, a two-year investigation will disclose today." I'll have that apology now thanks, cabbage brains. I sez on 11/4/2007:

“Green leaning folk need to take a reality check. We need timber products and they have to come from somewhere. At the moment a significant proportion of our timber products come from illegal and/or unsustainable operations in developing countries like Indonesia. This situation will only get worse if radical Greens have their way and we â??protectâ?? too much native forest from logging.”

According to The Age on 12/4/2007:

“RAINFOREST covering an area almost the size of Britain has been obtained by a group of European and American industrial logging companies in return for minimal taxes and gifts of salt, sugar and tools, a two-year investigation will disclose today.”

I’ll have that apology now thanks, cabbage brains.

]]> By: John Greenfield http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192315 John Greenfield Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:05:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192315 Anybody who does not believe that Kevin Rudd's ascension is the full-time whistle in the Culture Wars - with the Neocons victors by the mightiest of bitchslappings - is in denial. I wonder if any of the "It's Time" set ever imagnined their Messiah would be a Bible-basher, teacher-basher who tells Muslim leaders to go back where they came from!? Anybody who does not believe that Kevin Rudd’s ascension is the full-time whistle in the Culture Wars – with the Neocons victors by the mightiest of bitchslappings – is in denial.

I wonder if any of the “It’s Time” set ever imagnined their Messiah would be a Bible-basher, teacher-basher who tells Muslim leaders to go back where they came from!?

]]> By: Paul Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192314 Paul Norton Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:47:50 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192314 I have just come across some more estimates of employment impacts of ending old growth logging in Tasmania. Gillespie Economics estimated that 320 workers would be displaced, whilst Bruce Felmingham's model suggested that 336 to 1345 jobs could be lost, including jobs supported by logging. If Felmingham's lower end estimate is correct, Latham's package would have amounted to $2,380,952.38 for each affected worker. If the Gillespie estimate is correct, it would have amounted to a nice round $2,500,000 per worker. I have just come across some more estimates of employment impacts of ending old growth logging in Tasmania. Gillespie Economics estimated that 320 workers would be displaced, whilst Bruce Felmingham’s model suggested that 336 to 1345 jobs could be lost, including jobs supported by logging. If Felmingham’s lower end estimate is correct, Latham’s package would have amounted to $2,380,952.38 for each affected worker. If the Gillespie estimate is correct, it would have amounted to a nice round $2,500,000 per worker.

]]> By: Helen http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192313 Helen Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:27:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192313 <a href="http://castironbalcony.media2.org/?p=340" rel="nofollow">Trackback</a>. Trackback.

]]> By: Paul Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192312 Paul Norton Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:36:24 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192312 I can now report that my letter to the <em>Australian</em> briefly stating the essence of this post, and ironically suggesting that the papert's coverage of Lotto results should refer to Division One as "Division Disaster", was not published. I can now report that my letter to the Australian briefly stating the essence of this post, and ironically suggesting that the papert’s coverage of Lotto results should refer to Division One as “Division Disaster”, was not published.

]]> By: Alex on the Bus http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192311 Alex on the Bus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:06:55 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192311 <blockquote>The hilarious thing about JA’s latest column is the new dimension it adds to the cult of Howard: the Great Leader is so great even a resurgent Opposition can be credited to him.</blockquote> True. More the point, it sounds like JA's trying to run the 'Howard Lite' line with Rudd ("why go diet when you can go fully fat?"), hoping that another 2001-esque Labor collapse ensues. Of course, the silly old bint doesn't get the irony of crediting Rattus for Tintin's rise - it's not because he's so good but because he's so bad. Speaking of silly twats at the ABC, the IPA's John Roskam <strong><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-abc-is-not-doing-its-job/2007/04/10/1175971094902.html" rel="nofollow">sinks the boot in yet again</a></strong>. What, you want it unwatchable as well as insipid?

The hilarious thing about JA’s latest column is the new dimension it adds to the cult of Howard: the Great Leader is so great even a resurgent Opposition can be credited to him.

True. More the point, it sounds like JA’s trying to run the ‘Howard Lite’ line with Rudd (“why go diet when you can go fully fat?”), hoping that another 2001-esque Labor collapse ensues. Of course, the silly old bint doesn’t get the irony of crediting Rattus for Tintin’s rise – it’s not because he’s so good but because he’s so bad.

Speaking of silly twats at the ABC, the IPA’s John Roskam sinks the boot in yet again. What, you want it unwatchable as well as insipid?

]]> By: Joe D http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192310 Joe D Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:01:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192310 Melaleuca, there isn't even scientific consensus about the ideas you espouse let alone overwhelming evidence. The reason we will never know how many plant species were lost to Aboriginal burnng is because it is an unknowable number. Europeans saw lots of smoke in the 1800s. What do we know about 1800AD-50,000? There is no black arm band at work denying Aboriginal caused extinctions just old fashioned (conservative if you will) scientific sceptism. Melaleuca, there isn’t even scientific consensus about the ideas you espouse let alone overwhelming evidence. The reason we will never know how many plant species were lost to Aboriginal burnng is because it is an unknowable number. Europeans saw lots of smoke in the 1800s. What do we know about 1800AD-50,000? There is no black arm band at work denying Aboriginal caused extinctions just old fashioned (conservative if you will) scientific sceptism.

]]> By: philip travers http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192309 philip travers Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:54:21 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/11/when-will-your-disastrous-numbers-come-up/#comment-192309 Mela whatever he is a beauty,isnt he! Gee.What can you say about his analysis but know he is a well studied giant killer of the intellectual pygmies amongst us.Well he must be surely his writings indicate,a wary tiredness with those who dont see eyeball to eyeball with him.Or to put it another way..now lets see.Gnashing teeth at the designer fly.I know science is amazing so is nitrogenous fertiliser.If you had to take a pick between the two of them what would you choose?Well a giant doesnt need to make the era of fertiliser choice that burns the soil up,because he is a scientist.And the intellectual pigmies wouldnt know what a nitrogenous fertiliser looked like.God knows I dont even know what a employee of N.S.W. State Forests looks like either as they seem to be employed doing as aboriginals did...and in my living memory even sawmillers agreed with the practice for the reason of getting the logs out cleaner.,Because I am as deaf as a babyboomer can get,I didnt hear the CSIRO are trying something from South America.And by joves Bryant and Mays matches didnt exist,and were never seen lighting a cigarette either..Guy Fawkes nights never existed and got away,and lightning never strikes other trees accept the oneMela? Mela whatever he is a beauty,isnt he! Gee.What can you say about his analysis but know he is a well studied giant killer of the intellectual pygmies amongst us.Well he must be surely his writings indicate,a wary tiredness with those who dont see eyeball to eyeball with him.Or to put it another way..now lets see.Gnashing teeth at the designer fly.I know science is amazing so is nitrogenous fertiliser.If you had to take a pick between the two of them what would you choose?Well a giant doesnt need to make the era of fertiliser choice that burns the soil up,because he is a scientist.And the intellectual pigmies wouldnt know what a nitrogenous fertiliser looked like.God knows I dont even know what a employee of N.S.W. State Forests looks like either as they seem to be employed doing as aboriginals did…and in my living memory even sawmillers agreed with the practice for the reason of getting the logs out cleaner.,Because I am as deaf as a babyboomer can get,I didnt hear the CSIRO are trying something from South America.And by joves Bryant and Mays matches didnt exist,and were never seen lighting a cigarette either..Guy Fawkes nights never existed and got away,and lightning never strikes other trees accept the oneMela?

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