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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Laughing at the disabled&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-375991</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt;: I've written a &lt;a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/12/qut-the-university-for-the-surreal-world/" rel="nofollow"&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on the latest development in this affair, the suspension of Hookham and MacLennan for six months without pay, which I think is a completely over the top reaction, and says something very dodgy about QUT. I still hold to my original criticism of the two academics, but the chilling effect of this over-reaction on freedom of speech is deeply worrying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Update</b>: I&#8217;ve written a <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/12/qut-the-university-for-the-surreal-world/" rel="nofollow">post</a> on the latest development in this affair, the suspension of Hookham and MacLennan for six months without pay, which I think is a completely over the top reaction, and says something very dodgy about QUT. I still hold to my original criticism of the two academics, but the chilling effect of this over-reaction on freedom of speech is deeply worrying.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-375977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, indeed. The suspension of the two academics without pay for six months seems a totally disproportionate (if hardly unsurprising) action by QUT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeed. The suspension of the two academics without pay for six months seems a totally disproportionate (if hardly unsurprising) action by QUT.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-375818</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 05:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUT seems to have forgotten that there are more general issues surrounding this case than the narrow interpretation and in-house view that they have applied in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUT seems to have forgotten that there are more general issues surrounding this case than the narrow interpretation and in-house view that they have applied in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bartlett</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-375803</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-375803</guid>
		<description>Interesting post-script to this story, with the two academics in question being suspended without pay for 6 months as a consequence. A totally over the top response in my view, however harsh their original public criticism was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post-script to this story, with the two academics in question being suspended without pay for 6 months as a consequence. A totally over the top response in my view, however harsh their original public criticism was.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-365523</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 14:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-365523</guid>
		<description>Or, alternatively, if QUT hadn't &lt;a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/23/qut-farewells-the-old-humanities/" rel="nofollow"&gt;junked the teaching of social science&lt;/a&gt;, people might learn not to generalise from anecdotal evidence about "Gen Z".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, alternatively, if QUT hadn&#8217;t <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/23/qut-farewells-the-old-humanities/" rel="nofollow">junked the teaching of social science</a>, people might learn not to generalise from anecdotal evidence about &#8220;Gen Z&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Luka S</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-365478</link>
		<dc:creator>Luka S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 10:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-365478</guid>
		<description>There seems to be a generation gap developing between many of the writers of the above comments (presumably postgraduates and/or graduates), and undergraduate students. In the last couple of days, at QUT in the Creative Industries Faculty, large numbers of MacLennan's undergraduate students have contribtued to online Forums supporting MacLennan's stand. I'm told that they're even holding a support rally this coming Tuesday on one of QUT's campuses (on the Kelvin Grove campus probably). Seems that what amounted to a "farewell email" sent by MacLennan to students has cause a big stir amongs the undergraduates. I've actually seen some copies of their posts, and they're agreeing with MacLennan's arguments as they've appeared in the media. What I find interesting about this as one of those postgrad researchers myself, is that it would appear Generation Z is in rebelling against postmodernism. I've heard and read anecdotal stories about how this seems to be the case in many Nth American college classrooms (interestingly, on many so-called liberal campuses), and maybe this is also the case in Australia, although I'd hestitate to call QUT a liberal university.

I'd imagine the undergraduates are having to make some hard decisions here: while a lot of them may have heard lectures from MacLennan, many of them would have had Michael Noonan as their tutor, at least in some subject. Yet they're coming down on MacLennan's side.

I've heard a lot said about MacLennan's activisim during the Joh Years, and he's survived it all. So he's a seasoned campaigner who, it would seem, knows which way the wind is blowing. In a power tussle between MacLennan and McKee, I'd bet I know what side the undergrads would take.

And, I dare say, that at QUT and other universities, Vice-Chancellors and Academic Boards, are beginning to pick up on this change in thiniing amongst Gen Z as well -- at least in part. QUT's Vice-Chancellor, Peter Coaldrake, has said on the press that he's closing down QUT's Humanities school because he thinkgs that 'the creative industries' are the 'new humanities'.

I'll have to leave it there, because Spider-Man 2 has just begun on free-to-air TV, and I happen to be a fan of the movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a generation gap developing between many of the writers of the above comments (presumably postgraduates and/or graduates), and undergraduate students. In the last couple of days, at QUT in the Creative Industries Faculty, large numbers of MacLennan&#8217;s undergraduate students have contribtued to online Forums supporting MacLennan&#8217;s stand. I&#8217;m told that they&#8217;re even holding a support rally this coming Tuesday on one of QUT&#8217;s campuses (on the Kelvin Grove campus probably). Seems that what amounted to a &#8220;farewell email&#8221; sent by MacLennan to students has cause a big stir amongs the undergraduates. I&#8217;ve actually seen some copies of their posts, and they&#8217;re agreeing with MacLennan&#8217;s arguments as they&#8217;ve appeared in the media. What I find interesting about this as one of those postgrad researchers myself, is that it would appear Generation Z is in rebelling against postmodernism. I&#8217;ve heard and read anecdotal stories about how this seems to be the case in many Nth American college classrooms (interestingly, on many so-called liberal campuses), and maybe this is also the case in Australia, although I&#8217;d hestitate to call QUT a liberal university.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d imagine the undergraduates are having to make some hard decisions here: while a lot of them may have heard lectures from MacLennan, many of them would have had Michael Noonan as their tutor, at least in some subject. Yet they&#8217;re coming down on MacLennan&#8217;s side.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a lot said about MacLennan&#8217;s activisim during the Joh Years, and he&#8217;s survived it all. So he&#8217;s a seasoned campaigner who, it would seem, knows which way the wind is blowing. In a power tussle between MacLennan and McKee, I&#8217;d bet I know what side the undergrads would take.</p>
<p>And, I dare say, that at QUT and other universities, Vice-Chancellors and Academic Boards, are beginning to pick up on this change in thiniing amongst Gen Z as well &#8212; at least in part. QUT&#8217;s Vice-Chancellor, Peter Coaldrake, has said on the press that he&#8217;s closing down QUT&#8217;s Humanities school because he thinkgs that &#8216;the creative industries&#8217; are the &#8216;new humanities&#8217;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to leave it there, because Spider-Man 2 has just begun on free-to-air TV, and I happen to be a fan of the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361682</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361682</guid>
		<description>Somehow I doubt we would have seen a thread like this had the Ph.D student been on the "right" side of the Leftist pomo vs. realist Culture War. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I doubt we would have seen a thread like this had the Ph.D student been on the &#8220;right&#8221; side of the Leftist pomo vs. realist Culture War. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tyro Rex</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361517</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361517</guid>
		<description>I would like to point out that the main article in the higher ed section, as well as attacking this poor PhD candidate in public, was basically pushing the same old tired reactionary agenda.

In the view of these two gossipy QUT luvvies having their after-work-drinkies bitch-session, in the full glare of the public gaze, the Academy's one and only True Purpose is educating the Ignorant Masses about the Glories of the Canon such that they can be Uplifted from their Humdrum and Dreary Existence. Because you know, otherwise the aforementioned Masses are only interested in the Footy Tips Competition, Reality Television, or Britney Spears' Drug-Induced Breakdown, or whatever it is the Great Unwashed actually do for entertainment nowadays.

Morality plays and floggings for the recalcitrant ingrates at 11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point out that the main article in the higher ed section, as well as attacking this poor PhD candidate in public, was basically pushing the same old tired reactionary agenda.</p>
<p>In the view of these two gossipy QUT luvvies having their after-work-drinkies bitch-session, in the full glare of the public gaze, the Academy&#8217;s one and only True Purpose is educating the Ignorant Masses about the Glories of the Canon such that they can be Uplifted from their Humdrum and Dreary Existence. Because you know, otherwise the aforementioned Masses are only interested in the Footy Tips Competition, Reality Television, or Britney Spears&#8217; Drug-Induced Breakdown, or whatever it is the Great Unwashed actually do for entertainment nowadays.</p>
<p>Morality plays and floggings for the recalcitrant ingrates at 11.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Gall</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361516</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Gall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361516</guid>
		<description>So it's "exterminate all the brutes" then, Jack?

Can anybody actually answer that kind of position constructively?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s &#8220;exterminate all the brutes&#8221; then, Jack?</p>
<p>Can anybody actually answer that kind of position constructively?</p>
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		<title>By: david tiley</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361500</link>
		<dc:creator>david tiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361500</guid>
		<description>Interesting point from Jack. I was mentally replying by saying that he is but a lowly fee-paying student in the first year of his program - but it turns out he is also a lecturer in the same department so is a bit more robust than I had thought at first. 

But he is still surely entitled to stand in front of the assembled academics of his department and find out - in Jack's vigorous debate - if he is being a dill or not without turning up in a national newspaper as an object of censorious mouth-pursing. 

Ironically for senior academics claiming to attack a subjectivist and relative approach to ideas, the debate turns on an interpretation of the footage, on which we have no direct evidence. 

Except that a disabiity support group is not offended. And they don't have such an evident axe to grind. 

I wonder if Noonan would win a libel case? 

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Interesting too that he manages to be a fairly vigorous filmmaker with many no/lo or PFTC supported films to his credit. I wonder if that creates tension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point from Jack. I was mentally replying by saying that he is but a lowly fee-paying student in the first year of his program - but it turns out he is also a lecturer in the same department so is a bit more robust than I had thought at first. </p>
<p>But he is still surely entitled to stand in front of the assembled academics of his department and find out - in Jack&#8217;s vigorous debate - if he is being a dill or not without turning up in a national newspaper as an object of censorious mouth-pursing. </p>
<p>Ironically for senior academics claiming to attack a subjectivist and relative approach to ideas, the debate turns on an interpretation of the footage, on which we have no direct evidence. </p>
<p>Except that a disabiity support group is not offended. And they don&#8217;t have such an evident axe to grind. </p>
<p>I wonder if Noonan would win a libel case? </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Interesting too that he manages to be a fairly vigorous filmmaker with many no/lo or PFTC supported films to his credit. I wonder if that creates tension.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361429</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To a certain extent, humour is inextricably linked to human weaknesses and mishaps. I mean, no one finds Carl Lewis funny because he runs fast. 

The question, I guess, concerns the context. Humour based on disability must be treated with particular sensitivity because people have no control over the fact that they have been disabled and the experience is often associated with traumatic experiences. But the ability to make light of and laugh at our own disadvantages or grim experiences is very natural. However, I think that people who aren't disabled should be more cautious about making light of disability. Its kinda like the difference between a black man making black jokes and a white man making black jokes.... the difference between self reflection, and humour which could be construed as a statement of one's superiority or good fortune vis a vis another person or group of people.

But you have to be pragmatic. Humour can be used to essentialize a seemingly strange aspect of another person and exclude them. But at the same time it can also be a great leveller, and can make possible more equal, inclusive and open relationships between different people. But I should stress that the basis of good humour is not the ability to laugh at others, but the ability to laugh at yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To a certain extent, humour is inextricably linked to human weaknesses and mishaps. I mean, no one finds Carl Lewis funny because he runs fast. </p>
<p>The question, I guess, concerns the context. Humour based on disability must be treated with particular sensitivity because people have no control over the fact that they have been disabled and the experience is often associated with traumatic experiences. But the ability to make light of and laugh at our own disadvantages or grim experiences is very natural. However, I think that people who aren&#8217;t disabled should be more cautious about making light of disability. Its kinda like the difference between a black man making black jokes and a white man making black jokes&#8230;. the difference between self reflection, and humour which could be construed as a statement of one&#8217;s superiority or good fortune vis a vis another person or group of people.</p>
<p>But you have to be pragmatic. Humour can be used to essentialize a seemingly strange aspect of another person and exclude them. But at the same time it can also be a great leveller, and can make possible more equal, inclusive and open relationships between different people. But I should stress that the basis of good humour is not the ability to laugh at others, but the ability to laugh at yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361422</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361422</guid>
		<description>Kim says:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;What are the ethics of senior academics taking to a national newspaper to attack a Doctoral candidate? That seems to me an outrageous abuse. The writers would have much more power to be heard than the PhD student, and seem cavalier about damaging his career and reputation in pursuit of their own agenda. No doubt a lot of their gripe is with his supervisors, but heâ€™s a much weaker target.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

A postdoctorate student is grown up and fair game. Particularly if he is silly enough to expect public subsidy for publishing this kind of tripe. 

He has to be prepared to cop it and dish it out since the day will come when he will take mouse into hand and start his own blog. Then he will come to know the real meaning of "vigorous debate".

Kim quotes:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;A PhD studentâ€™s TV comedy about disabled people has sparked outrage from senior academics and prompted an investigation.

Gary MacLennan and John Hookham, of Queensland University of Technologyâ€™s film and television school, believe that work such as Mr Noonanâ€™s is being validated under the rubric of postmodernist or poststructuralist thought, where â€œyou abandon any idea of individual worthâ€?.

â€œFor us, this is symptomatic of a wider intellectual and moral problem,â€? Dr MacLennan said. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

You don't say! You know you have a "wider intellectual and moral problem" with Arts faculties when it falls to Marxists to speak up for common sense and decency.

Still the occasional Marxist is a small price to be paid for temporary respite from the toxic gases emmitted from the slowly leaking nuclear reactors that are out Arts faculties.

Muggeridge, giving a post-mortem of the British security system in the aftermath of Burgess Mclean, suggested that they "clear out the current occupants, fumigate the premises and start again". This strikes me as the sanest course of action for our contemporary Arts faculties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim says:</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>What are the ethics of senior academics taking to a national newspaper to attack a Doctoral candidate? That seems to me an outrageous abuse. The writers would have much more power to be heard than the PhD student, and seem cavalier about damaging his career and reputation in pursuit of their own agenda. No doubt a lot of their gripe is with his supervisors, but heâ€™s a much weaker target.</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>A postdoctorate student is grown up and fair game. Particularly if he is silly enough to expect public subsidy for publishing this kind of tripe. </p>
<p>He has to be prepared to cop it and dish it out since the day will come when he will take mouse into hand and start his own blog. Then he will come to know the real meaning of &#8220;vigorous debate&#8221;.</p>
<p>Kim quotes:</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>A PhD studentâ€™s TV comedy about disabled people has sparked outrage from senior academics and prompted an investigation.</p>
<p>Gary MacLennan and John Hookham, of Queensland University of Technologyâ€™s film and television school, believe that work such as Mr Noonanâ€™s is being validated under the rubric of postmodernist or poststructuralist thought, where â€œyou abandon any idea of individual worthâ€?.</p>
<p>â€œFor us, this is symptomatic of a wider intellectual and moral problem,â€? Dr MacLennan said. </p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t say! You know you have a &#8220;wider intellectual and moral problem&#8221; with Arts faculties when it falls to Marxists to speak up for common sense and decency.</p>
<p>Still the occasional Marxist is a small price to be paid for temporary respite from the toxic gases emmitted from the slowly leaking nuclear reactors that are out Arts faculties.</p>
<p>Muggeridge, giving a post-mortem of the British security system in the aftermath of Burgess Mclean, suggested that they &#8220;clear out the current occupants, fumigate the premises and start again&#8221;. This strikes me as the sanest course of action for our contemporary Arts faculties.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361379</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - thanks for the detail on the sponsor of Noonan's project.

dk.au already added to the point I made in the post - the seminar Noonan gave is a quality check after the first year of his PhD candidature. 

Why is this shit in the Australian? Because Gary MacLennan is bitter about the way his Faculty has turned out and he's turned his personal problems into a bullying op/ed picking up on the POMO IS THE EVIL line that apparently enables anyone who will recite the appropriate mantra to get an article published in a Murdoch rag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David - thanks for the detail on the sponsor of Noonan&#8217;s project.</p>
<p>dk.au already added to the point I made in the post - the seminar Noonan gave is a quality check after the first year of his PhD candidature. </p>
<p>Why is this shit in the Australian? Because Gary MacLennan is bitter about the way his Faculty has turned out and he&#8217;s turned his personal problems into a bullying op/ed picking up on the POMO IS THE EVIL line that apparently enables anyone who will recite the appropriate mantra to get an article published in a Murdoch rag.</p>
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		<title>By: david tiley</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361364</link>
		<dc:creator>david tiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't get my head around this. Michael Noonan provides 20 minutes of footage - raw, cut, fine cut? - which to be condemned, not to attack Noonan himself but his supervisors. 

But a disability support organisation backs the project -

"The project is backed by Spectrum, a not-for-profit group that helps disabled people in mainstream society. 

Spectrum chief executive John Hart said Mr Noonan's work would change the way people viewed those with disabilities: "Michael is a wonderful human being; he is going to break down so many barriers." 

Mr Noonan recently sold another series to ABC television, Unlikely Travellers, also backed by Spectrum. It is expected to screen later this year. 

Dr MacLennan said that Unlikely Travellers, a documentary about six disabled people, was warm and beautiful, but the characters in Mr Noonan's latest project were portrayed as objects of ridicule."

Dr MacLennan seems to know bette than disability advocates here. 

The post modern supervisor is not some arcane academi but Geoff Portman, ex head of comedy at the ABC, who probably knows a lot about interdepartmental back stabbing and the sacrifice of  junior careers to whack senior personnel.

And this is national news, worth two articles in The Australian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t get my head around this. Michael Noonan provides 20 minutes of footage - raw, cut, fine cut? - which to be condemned, not to attack Noonan himself but his supervisors. </p>
<p>But a disability support organisation backs the project -</p>
<p>&#8220;The project is backed by Spectrum, a not-for-profit group that helps disabled people in mainstream society. </p>
<p>Spectrum chief executive John Hart said Mr Noonan&#8217;s work would change the way people viewed those with disabilities: &#8220;Michael is a wonderful human being; he is going to break down so many barriers.&#8221; </p>
<p>Mr Noonan recently sold another series to ABC television, Unlikely Travellers, also backed by Spectrum. It is expected to screen later this year. </p>
<p>Dr MacLennan said that Unlikely Travellers, a documentary about six disabled people, was warm and beautiful, but the characters in Mr Noonan&#8217;s latest project were portrayed as objects of ridicule.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr MacLennan seems to know bette than disability advocates here. </p>
<p>The post modern supervisor is not some arcane academi but Geoff Portman, ex head of comedy at the ABC, who probably knows a lot about interdepartmental back stabbing and the sacrifice of  junior careers to whack senior personnel.</p>
<p>And this is national news, worth two articles in The Australian?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes there is a dark Humour surrounding serious issues and a movie currently on at Centro has a humorous look at Mental Health iissues which had the audience hooting with laughter throughout the movie. An added bonus is that the Murdoch press only rated it two stars as they do with nost of the gems because they just get the reviews off the internet without seeing them themselves is my guess. 'Running wirh Scissors' is a hoot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes there is a dark Humour surrounding serious issues and a movie currently on at Centro has a humorous look at Mental Health iissues which had the audience hooting with laughter throughout the movie. An added bonus is that the Murdoch press only rated it two stars as they do with nost of the gems because they just get the reviews off the internet without seeing them themselves is my guess. &#8216;Running wirh Scissors&#8217; is a hoot.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361315</link>
		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some cases that may have been true, Adam. However, many of these academics would frequently ask these questions even if they had no real connection to the presentation that had been given, as if to say "I am an important member of the department therefore you must answer my completely irrelevant question and a failure to do so will evince further irrelevant questions with your failure revealing my intellectual superiority, so there!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some cases that may have been true, Adam. However, many of these academics would frequently ask these questions even if they had no real connection to the presentation that had been given, as if to say &#8220;I am an important member of the department therefore you must answer my completely irrelevant question and a failure to do so will evince further irrelevant questions with your failure revealing my intellectual superiority, so there!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Gall</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361295</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Gall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've also had those kinds of experiences, dj. It's a feature of academic life, I guess. I do feel like, at the intellectual level (which is only part of what's going on), the repetition of questions is also about staking out an area of expertise and a set of concerns or preoccupations, and keeping that position visible to other working in a similar area. I have one colleague who tends to ask the same kinds of questions of my work, and I always give the same kinds of answers, but I appreciate the reminder. I don't think that's how it usually plays out though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also had those kinds of experiences, dj. It&#8217;s a feature of academic life, I guess. I do feel like, at the intellectual level (which is only part of what&#8217;s going on), the repetition of questions is also about staking out an area of expertise and a set of concerns or preoccupations, and keeping that position visible to other working in a similar area. I have one colleague who tends to ask the same kinds of questions of my work, and I always give the same kinds of answers, but I appreciate the reminder. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s how it usually plays out though.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361281</link>
		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam - when i was a postgrad student, some of the departmental seminars we went to used to crack us up. You could guarantee that particular academics would ask particular questions with an obvious undertone that was as much based upon personal enmity as intellectual disagreement. It almost didn't matter what the topic was, the same questions or questions along the same lines got asked. It really illustrated how personality can override intelligence to turn people stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam - when i was a postgrad student, some of the departmental seminars we went to used to crack us up. You could guarantee that particular academics would ask particular questions with an obvious undertone that was as much based upon personal enmity as intellectual disagreement. It almost didn&#8217;t matter what the topic was, the same questions or questions along the same lines got asked. It really illustrated how personality can override intelligence to turn people stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Grendel</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361260</link>
		<dc:creator>Grendel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the father of a child with a disability (Autism) I am more worried about ensuring he gets a fair chance to access services he needs that enable him to participate than I am about some PhD student making a comedy - if it does not exploit individuals, and it encourages people to laugh and think, then yes, I'd agree that the gripers are griping for reasons other than those they pretended to.

Shifting society to accept disability should involve popular culture - perhaps in a similar way to the role it played in encouraging acceptance of gay and lesbian people. 

The ability to laugh without rancour is part of learning to appreciate difference as a quality. Laughter makes people more comfortable with the concept of difference and then to put the difference in perspective to that they can see the person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the father of a child with a disability (Autism) I am more worried about ensuring he gets a fair chance to access services he needs that enable him to participate than I am about some PhD student making a comedy - if it does not exploit individuals, and it encourages people to laugh and think, then yes, I&#8217;d agree that the gripers are griping for reasons other than those they pretended to.</p>
<p>Shifting society to accept disability should involve popular culture - perhaps in a similar way to the role it played in encouraging acceptance of gay and lesbian people. </p>
<p>The ability to laugh without rancour is part of learning to appreciate difference as a quality. Laughter makes people more comfortable with the concept of difference and then to put the difference in perspective to that they can see the person.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bath</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361258</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Bath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/13/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-361258</guid>
		<description>I left a &lt;a href="http://www.deadroo.com/index.php/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-1448" rel="nofollow"&gt;comment&lt;/a&gt; at DeadRoo on a post there by Kim.

As an epileptic, I too hate it when I get the "poor thing" treatment from those who think that I need "protection" from simple facts of life.

Saying a disability canâ€™t be the key premise of a joke is itself offensive to me. These â€œsenior academicsâ€? havenâ€™t got a clue from my perspective.

Humor is an essential part of human interaction, and individual flaws are a natural source of mirth.  Why should disabilities prevent people from fully participating?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left a <a href="http://www.deadroo.com/index.php/laughing-at-the-disabled/#comment-1448" rel="nofollow">comment</a> at DeadRoo on a post there by Kim.</p>
<p>As an epileptic, I too hate it when I get the &#8220;poor thing&#8221; treatment from those who think that I need &#8220;protection&#8221; from simple facts of life.</p>
<p>Saying a disability canâ€™t be the key premise of a joke is itself offensive to me. These â€œsenior academicsâ€? havenâ€™t got a clue from my perspective.</p>
<p>Humor is an essential part of human interaction, and individual flaws are a natural source of mirth.  Why should disabilities prevent people from fully participating?</p>
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