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	<title>Comments on: Ruddock wants to ban Star Wars</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/</link>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361829</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361829</guid>
		<description>"Those lovely Palestinians have just killed the BBC journo. Talk about winning friends and influencing people."

Greenfield you are a disgrace.
No proof, no evidence and unsubstantiated.

Work available  see....
http://www.fox.com/home.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those lovely Palestinians have just killed the BBC journo. Talk about winning friends and influencing people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Greenfield you are a disgrace.<br />
No proof, no evidence and unsubstantiated.</p>
<p>Work available  see&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://www.fox.com/home.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fox.com/home.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361789</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361789</guid>
		<description>Not confirmed yet, JG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not confirmed yet, JG.</p>
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		<title>By: Chav</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361779</link>
		<dc:creator>Chav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361779</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Those lovely Palestinians have just killed the BBC journo. Talk about winning friends and influencing people.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As opposed to the tolerance for free speech of the &lt;a href="http://http://www.cpj.org/attacks03/mideast03/israel.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;IDF?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those lovely Palestinians have just killed the BBC journo. Talk about winning friends and influencing people.</p></blockquote>
<p>As opposed to the tolerance for free speech of the <a href="http://http://www.cpj.org/attacks03/mideast03/israel.html" rel="nofollow">IDF?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chav</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361777</link>
		<dc:creator>Chav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361777</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When you scratch just beneath the whole â€śanti-Zionistâ€? crowd, you find a bitter 1970s Trot who has not reconciled him/herself with historical reality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But they have reconciled themselves with reality...the fact that Israel &lt;em&gt;is &lt;/em&gt;a racist colonial settler-state.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When you scratch just beneath the whole â€śanti-Zionistâ€? crowd, you find a bitter 1970s Trot who has not reconciled him/herself with historical reality.</p></blockquote>
<p>But they have reconciled themselves with reality&#8230;the fact that Israel <em>is </em>a racist colonial settler-state.<br />
 <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Chav</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361768</link>
		<dc:creator>Chav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361768</guid>
		<description>Strocchi, if you want to see some Death-Wishing and incitement of racial hatred then you need go no further than most Right-wing Blogs.  timblair.net's posts and comments on Muslim Australians being a case in point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strocchi, if you want to see some Death-Wishing and incitement of racial hatred then you need go no further than most Right-wing Blogs.  timblair.net&#8217;s posts and comments on Muslim Australians being a case in point.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361714</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361714</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Speaking of self-righteous and useless blogosphere-lathering, what legal test would you require to detect a â€śdog-whistleâ€??&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Along with disconnecting his scorn and ridicule amplifier, it appears that Strocchi has disconnected his irony detector.

&lt;em&gt;Mais, plus ca change...&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Speaking of self-righteous and useless blogosphere-lathering, what legal test would you require to detect a â€śdog-whistleâ€??</p></blockquote>
<p>Along with disconnecting his scorn and ridicule amplifier, it appears that Strocchi has disconnected his irony detector.</p>
<p><em>Mais, plus ca change&#8230;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361712</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361712</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Advocating = aid and comfort.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Irrelevant and legally useless.


Terrorism = organised violence against civilians for political purposes

Incomplete and prejudicial.

Strocchi must try harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Advocating = aid and comfort.</p></blockquote>
<p>Irrelevant and legally useless.</p>
<p>Terrorism = organised violence against civilians for political purposes</p>
<p>Incomplete and prejudicial.</p>
<p>Strocchi must try harder.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361708</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361708</guid>
		<description>Jack Strochi


&lt;blockquote&gt;Just like those hairy-nostriled Trots still complaining about â€śthe Revolution Betrayedâ€?.


Solipsism is the epistemological basis for nihilism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Indeed. I am too young to really have had much exposure to Trots-in-the-flesh. So correct me if I am wrong:


What has really spooked me of late is the 
realization that all those NGO-types as well as the multi-culti commisars are really just peddling Trotskyism by stealth. 


The whole hatred of Israel as a "racist imperialist, illegal" blah, blah, blah is just sour grapes that Trotskist International Socialism floundered. 


When you scratch just beneath the whole "anti-Zionist" crowd, you find a bitter 1970s Trot who has not reconciled him/herself with historical reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Strochi</p>
<blockquote><p>Just like those hairy-nostriled Trots still complaining about â€śthe Revolution Betrayedâ€?.</p>
<p>Solipsism is the epistemological basis for nihilism.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed. I am too young to really have had much exposure to Trots-in-the-flesh. So correct me if I am wrong:</p>
<p>What has really spooked me of late is the<br />
realization that all those NGO-types as well as the multi-culti commisars are really just peddling Trotskyism by stealth. </p>
<p>The whole hatred of Israel as a &#8220;racist imperialist, illegal&#8221; blah, blah, blah is just sour grapes that Trotskist International Socialism floundered. </p>
<p>When you scratch just beneath the whole &#8220;anti-Zionist&#8221; crowd, you find a bitter 1970s Trot who has not reconciled him/herself with historical reality.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361706</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361706</guid>
		<description>Those lovely Palestinians have just killed the BBC journo. Talk about winning friends and influencing people.


&lt;a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2452414.ece" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those lovely Palestinians have just killed the BBC journo. Talk about winning friends and influencing people.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2452414.ece" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361703</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361703</guid>
		<description>Let me for once disconnect my "scorn and ridicule" amplifier and speak in calm and moderate tones. Will any Larva-Prodders once, just once, concede that liberal cultural policies can "blow-back" creating illiberal cultural polities? 

Its not as if there hasnt been an avalanche of these concessions in other countries. You cant pick up a newspaper in the UK these days without reading of some liberal-left public figure conceding on this matter.

It is risible to expect people to take Larva-prodder claims about the ideological block-headedness and intellectual obscurantism of Bush's War on Terror seriously when they show exactly the same vices in their side of the Culture War. Some black-kettle calling pots come to mind. 

Do you want keep up the "we wuz robbed by dog-whistlers" mantra for ever? Just like those hairy-nostriled Trots still complaining about "the Revolution Betrayed".

My advice: get real. The majority of your fellow citizens and most &lt;a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7e668728-5732-11db-9110-0000779e2340.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;competent&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.aph.gov.au/Library/pubs/RP/1997-98/98rp01.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;social scientists &lt;/a&gt;are taking this track. 

Solipsism is the epistemological basis for nihilism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me for once disconnect my &#8220;scorn and ridicule&#8221; amplifier and speak in calm and moderate tones. Will any Larva-Prodders once, just once, concede that liberal cultural policies can &#8220;blow-back&#8221; creating illiberal cultural polities? </p>
<p>Its not as if there hasnt been an avalanche of these concessions in other countries. You cant pick up a newspaper in the UK these days without reading of some liberal-left public figure conceding on this matter.</p>
<p>It is risible to expect people to take Larva-prodder claims about the ideological block-headedness and intellectual obscurantism of Bush&#8217;s War on Terror seriously when they show exactly the same vices in their side of the Culture War. Some black-kettle calling pots come to mind. </p>
<p>Do you want keep up the &#8220;we wuz robbed by dog-whistlers&#8221; mantra for ever? Just like those hairy-nostriled Trots still complaining about &#8220;the Revolution Betrayed&#8221;.</p>
<p>My advice: get real. The majority of your fellow citizens and most <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7e668728-5732-11db-9110-0000779e2340.html" rel="nofollow">competent</a> <a href="http://www.aph.gov.au/Library/pubs/RP/1997-98/98rp01.htm" rel="nofollow">social scientists </a>are taking this track. </p>
<p>Solipsism is the epistemological basis for nihilism.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361692</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361692</guid>
		<description>Paul Norton


Ah...for those fairy-floss halcyon days of the ANC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Norton</p>
<p>Ah&#8230;for those fairy-floss halcyon days of the ANC.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361689</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361689</guid>
		<description>Well given that Kevin Rudd has already called for the deportation of an Australian Muslim leader, his response to this video should be a doozy. 

Rudd's election campaign is already shaping up to be an singing all danicing Teacher-Bashing Race-Baiting and Union-Bashing affair. Maybe Howard and Abbott have met their match?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well given that Kevin Rudd has already called for the deportation of an Australian Muslim leader, his response to this video should be a doozy. </p>
<p>Rudd&#8217;s election campaign is already shaping up to be an singing all danicing Teacher-Bashing Race-Baiting and Union-Bashing affair. Maybe Howard and Abbott have met their match?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361687</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361687</guid>
		<description>Katz  on &lt;a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361683" rel="nofollow"&gt;16 April 2007 at 9:22 am&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1. What legal test would you legislate to determine guilt for advocacy? 

2. What legal test would you legislate to determine guilt for terrorism?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt; 

Why not try the plain meaning of common English words for a change?:

Advocating = aid and comfort.
Terrorism = organised violence against civilians for political purposes 

Katz says:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™m reasonably confident you wouldnâ€™t leave it to pomo, multiculti, wet, surrender monkey, politically correct, luvvie judges to arrive at a common law definition.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Your confidence is unreasonable. In fact the Wets have set the template for such definitions. Publications openly advocating terrorism should be banned, much for the same reason that racial and religious vilification is banned. So use the same form of test that was placed on the statutes to curb analogous forms of hate speech.

The social contract works both ways. Advocating political violence against ethnic persons (individual autonomies) or civil polity (institutional authority) is wrong.

They have witlessly cultivated this problem for ideological and electoral reasons. So its only fair that they provide the solution.

Speaking of self-righteous and useless blogosphere-lathering, what legal test would you require to detect a "dog-whistle"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katz  on <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361683" rel="nofollow">16 April 2007 at 9:22 am</a> </p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>1. What legal test would you legislate to determine guilt for advocacy? </p>
<p>2. What legal test would you legislate to determine guilt for terrorism?</p></blockquote>
<p></em> </p>
<p>Why not try the plain meaning of common English words for a change?:</p>
<p>Advocating = aid and comfort.<br />
Terrorism = organised violence against civilians for political purposes </p>
<p>Katz says:</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>Iâ€™m reasonably confident you wouldnâ€™t leave it to pomo, multiculti, wet, surrender monkey, politically correct, luvvie judges to arrive at a common law definition.</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>Your confidence is unreasonable. In fact the Wets have set the template for such definitions. Publications openly advocating terrorism should be banned, much for the same reason that racial and religious vilification is banned. So use the same form of test that was placed on the statutes to curb analogous forms of hate speech.</p>
<p>The social contract works both ways. Advocating political violence against ethnic persons (individual autonomies) or civil polity (institutional authority) is wrong.</p>
<p>They have witlessly cultivated this problem for ideological and electoral reasons. So its only fair that they provide the solution.</p>
<p>Speaking of self-righteous and useless blogosphere-lathering, what legal test would you require to detect a &#8220;dog-whistle&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361686</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361686</guid>
		<description>Here's an extract from Exodus 32 concerning the aftermath of the famous Golden Calf imbroglio. Moses slays some folk over a difference of religious opinion:

When Moses realized that, to the scornful joy of their foes, Aaron had let the people run wild, he stood at the gate of the camp and cried, "Whoever is for the LORD, let him come to me!" All the Levites then rallied to him,  and he told them, "Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel: Put your sword on your hip, every one of you! Now go up and down the camp, from gate to gate, &lt;strong&gt;and slay your own kinsmen, your friends and neighbors&lt;/strong&gt;!" The Levites carried out the command of Moses, and that day &lt;strong&gt;there fell about three thousand &lt;/strong&gt;of the people.

Does this extract "advocate" "terrorism"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an extract from Exodus 32 concerning the aftermath of the famous Golden Calf imbroglio. Moses slays some folk over a difference of religious opinion:</p>
<p>When Moses realized that, to the scornful joy of their foes, Aaron had let the people run wild, he stood at the gate of the camp and cried, &#8220;Whoever is for the LORD, let him come to me!&#8221; All the Levites then rallied to him,  and he told them, &#8220;Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel: Put your sword on your hip, every one of you! Now go up and down the camp, from gate to gate, <strong>and slay your own kinsmen, your friends and neighbors</strong>!&#8221; The Levites carried out the command of Moses, and that day <strong>there fell about three thousand </strong>of the people.</p>
<p>Does this extract &#8220;advocate&#8221; &#8220;terrorism&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361683</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361683</guid>
		<description>Jack Strocchi  on 16 April 2007 at 7:03 am 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™ve got a radical new cultural philosophy to retail. Why not just tell the truth straight for a change?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So Jack.

1. What legal test would you legislate to determine guilt for &lt;strong&gt;advocacy&lt;/strong&gt;? (I'm reasonably confident you wouldn't leave it to pomo, multiculti, wet, surrender monkey, politically correct, luvvie judges to arrive at a common law definition.)

2. What legal test would you legislate to determine guilt for &lt;strong&gt;terrorism&lt;/strong&gt;? (I'm reasonably confident you wouldn't leave it to pomo, multiculti, wet, surrender monkey, politically correct, luvvie judges to arrive at a common law definition.)

Enough of lathering up the blogosphere with your self-righteousness. Do something useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Strocchi  on 16 April 2007 at 7:03 am </p>
<blockquote><p>Iâ€™ve got a radical new cultural philosophy to retail. Why not just tell the truth straight for a change?</p></blockquote>
<p>So Jack.</p>
<p>1. What legal test would you legislate to determine guilt for <strong>advocacy</strong>? (I&#8217;m reasonably confident you wouldn&#8217;t leave it to pomo, multiculti, wet, surrender monkey, politically correct, luvvie judges to arrive at a common law definition.)</p>
<p>2. What legal test would you legislate to determine guilt for <strong>terrorism</strong>? (I&#8217;m reasonably confident you wouldn&#8217;t leave it to pomo, multiculti, wet, surrender monkey, politically correct, luvvie judges to arrive at a common law definition.)</p>
<p>Enough of lathering up the blogosphere with your self-righteousness. Do something useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361675</guid>
		<description>Paul Norton  on &lt;a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361668" rel="nofollow"&gt;16 April 2007 at 8:14 am&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I would pose the question: would any of my actions in support of the ANC have been a criminal offence under either Ruddockâ€™s proposed laws or the â€śanti-terroristâ€? laws currently in place, had they been in force in 1985?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, and rightly so, if you had participated in a group that openly advocated violence against civilian targets.

Advocating, and carrying out, unlawful political homicide (murder) is wrong. And ethnic-based terrorists seem to be so much worse due to the fact that blood has a long memory, down the generations. (That is the danger of "family values".)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Norton  on <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361668" rel="nofollow">16 April 2007 at 8:14 am</a> </p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>I would pose the question: would any of my actions in support of the ANC have been a criminal offence under either Ruddockâ€™s proposed laws or the â€śanti-terroristâ€? laws currently in place, had they been in force in 1985?</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>Yes, and rightly so, if you had participated in a group that openly advocated violence against civilian targets.</p>
<p>Advocating, and carrying out, unlawful political homicide (murder) is wrong. And ethnic-based terrorists seem to be so much worse due to the fact that blood has a long memory, down the generations. (That is the danger of &#8220;family values&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who was involved in some small way in raising funds for the African National Congress, writing statements and articles in its support, and collaborating in the publication of its views within Australia in the mid-1980s, I would pose the question: would any of my actions in support of the ANC have been a criminal offence under either Ruddock's proposed laws or the "anti-terrorist" laws currently in place, had they been in force in 1985?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who was involved in some small way in raising funds for the African National Congress, writing statements and articles in its support, and collaborating in the publication of its views within Australia in the mid-1980s, I would pose the question: would any of my actions in support of the ANC have been a criminal offence under either Ruddock&#8217;s proposed laws or the &#8220;anti-terrorist&#8221; laws currently in place, had they been in force in 1985?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Merkel on &lt;a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/" rel="nofollow"&gt;15 April 2007 at 11:01 am&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Letâ€™s see now. As a commenter at Catallaxy points out, V for Vendetta was widely described as â€śglorifying terroristsâ€?. But thereâ€™s plenty more where that came from. Star Wars is a six-movie saga largely devoted to glorifying terrorists. And itâ€™s not just science fiction. How about Michael Collins. For that matter, what about every single American movie about their independence, given that that was arguably viewed as terrorism by the British at the time?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

I know its hard for Wets to re-enter the reality-based community after living so long in an ideological bubble. But perhaps I can help with some occupational therapy.

Here is my eccentric notion of terrorist incitement: unauthorised statements which encourage political violence against individuals or institutions by real people in the here and now. 

The line between fantasy and reality is sometimes a thin one. So it does no harm to draw attention to it now and then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Merkel on <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/" rel="nofollow">15 April 2007 at 11:01 am</a></p>
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<blockquote>Letâ€™s see now. As a commenter at Catallaxy points out, V for Vendetta was widely described as â€śglorifying terroristsâ€?. But thereâ€™s plenty more where that came from. Star Wars is a six-movie saga largely devoted to glorifying terrorists. And itâ€™s not just science fiction. How about Michael Collins. For that matter, what about every single American movie about their independence, given that that was arguably viewed as terrorism by the British at the time?</p></blockquote>
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<p>I know its hard for Wets to re-enter the reality-based community after living so long in an ideological bubble. But perhaps I can help with some occupational therapy.</p>
<p>Here is my eccentric notion of terrorist incitement: unauthorised statements which encourage political violence against individuals or institutions by real people in the here and now. </p>
<p>The line between fantasy and reality is sometimes a thin one. So it does no harm to draw attention to it now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katz  on &lt;a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361634" rel="nofollow"&gt;15 April 2007 at 11:22 pm&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;When is Ruddock going to draft some legislation to ban election-year dog-whistle politicking?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Of course, we must ban "dog-whistling" politicians from slyly telling the truth to fed-up constituents. Just as we punish "gaffing" politicians from accidently telling the truth.

I've got a radical new cultural philosophy to retail. Why not just tell the truth straight for a change? Its good for the soul. Instead of having to swallow the barrage of lies and politically correct euphemisms that now sail under the flag of "liberal cultural discourse".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katz  on <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/15/ruddock-wants-to-ban-star-wars/#comment-361634" rel="nofollow">15 April 2007 at 11:22 pm</a> </p>
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<blockquote>When is Ruddock going to draft some legislation to ban election-year dog-whistle politicking?</p></blockquote>
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<p>Of course, we must ban &#8220;dog-whistling&#8221; politicians from slyly telling the truth to fed-up constituents. Just as we punish &#8220;gaffing&#8221; politicians from accidently telling the truth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a radical new cultural philosophy to retail. Why not just tell the truth straight for a change? Its good for the soul. Instead of having to swallow the barrage of lies and politically correct euphemisms that now sail under the flag of &#8220;liberal cultural discourse&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff Honnor  on 15 April 2007 at 8:52 pm 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The film, which also calls Jews â€śpigsâ€?, received a PG rating from the Office of Film and Literature Classification, making it suitable to be bought and watched by children.

The film, contained in a package of DVDs prepared by radical Sheik Feiz Mohammed, calls for the murder of non-believers in Islamâ€™s war on the West, according to newspaper reports.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

How can this be wrong? I mean its free speech. And it represents a legitimate point of view from one of the many multiple cultures marvellous arrayed before us for our delectation.

Its exactly what our Liberal-Death-Wishing cultural doctors ordered. 

Lets celebrate diversity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff Honnor  on 15 April 2007 at 8:52 pm </p>
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<blockquote>The film, which also calls Jews â€śpigsâ€?, received a PG rating from the Office of Film and Literature Classification, making it suitable to be bought and watched by children.</p>
<p>The film, contained in a package of DVDs prepared by radical Sheik Feiz Mohammed, calls for the murder of non-believers in Islamâ€™s war on the West, according to newspaper reports.</p></blockquote>
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<p>How can this be wrong? I mean its free speech. And it represents a legitimate point of view from one of the many multiple cultures marvellous arrayed before us for our delectation.</p>
<p>Its exactly what our Liberal-Death-Wishing cultural doctors ordered. </p>
<p>Lets celebrate diversity!</p>
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