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	<title>Comments on: (not) Everybody loves good neighbours&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/20/not-everybody-loves-good-neighbours/#comment-193674</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Australia is such an intolerant place, why did they call an entire state Queensland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Australia is such an intolerant place, why did they call an entire state Queensland?</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As ole Greenfields John pointed out up there on this here thread, it&#039;s actually quite a good result. Do you reckon even two decades ago, 75% of Australians would admit to being comfortable with same sexualists next door, indulging in perverse practices but not yet factored in as driving local property values up?

Slightly OT, an old (straight) friend of mine who is now a thriving real estate agent and auctioneer, reckons the worst mortgage/home loan risks are young hetro couples (&quot;they often break up and then fight really hard over the assets&quot;) and the best are single gay professionals.

I think around 25% is as good as it&#039;s gonna get for now, equating roughly to a baseline &quot;yuckiness&quot; factor out there in the general populace at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As ole Greenfields John pointed out up there on this here thread, it&#8217;s actually quite a good result. Do you reckon even two decades ago, 75% of Australians would admit to being comfortable with same sexualists next door, indulging in perverse practices but not yet factored in as driving local property values up?</p>
<p>Slightly OT, an old (straight) friend of mine who is now a thriving real estate agent and auctioneer, reckons the worst mortgage/home loan risks are young hetro couples (&#8220;they often break up and then fight really hard over the assets&#8221;) and the best are single gay professionals.</p>
<p>I think around 25% is as good as it&#8217;s gonna get for now, equating roughly to a baseline &#8220;yuckiness&#8221; factor out there in the general populace at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suz, you answered a question with a question.  *spank*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suz, you answered a question with a question.  *spank*</p>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
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		<dc:creator>suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SATP, are you coming out as a leftie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SATP, are you coming out as a leftie?</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Strummer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Strummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, I don&#039;t want to live next door to anyone, gay, straight, bi, black, white, asian, muslim, christian or pagan if they deal drugs to lots of customers late at night, play loud music, operate noisy machinery, leave garbage and dead cars/washing machines strewn around, have badly trained dogs that bark all the time, or indulge in any of a number of other inconsiderate behaviours. Otherwise, I couldn&#039;t give a rats what they do/are in their private life. That is, after all, why it is called a private life. There are, unfortunately, far too many people in this world who are worried about the private and personal attributes of others where they really have no business doing so. Most reasonable people call them intolerant bigots
Cheers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, I don&#8217;t want to live next door to anyone, gay, straight, bi, black, white, asian, muslim, christian or pagan if they deal drugs to lots of customers late at night, play loud music, operate noisy machinery, leave garbage and dead cars/washing machines strewn around, have badly trained dogs that bark all the time, or indulge in any of a number of other inconsiderate behaviours. Otherwise, I couldn&#8217;t give a rats what they do/are in their private life. That is, after all, why it is called a private life. There are, unfortunately, far too many people in this world who are worried about the private and personal attributes of others where they really have no business doing so. Most reasonable people call them intolerant bigots<br />
Cheers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 03:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ontheotherhand: And your point is what exactly?  Are you stating that I have suggested those groups are mutually exclusive?

Suz:  I am not &quot;desperate&quot; to prove anything.  I made a statement, it was commented on, &amp; counter commented etc.  Matter closed (or not, as the case may be).

Please state why you feel I am &quot;conservative&quot;.  Is it something you read in the tarot cards?  Or do you have more concrete documentary evidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ontheotherhand: And your point is what exactly?  Are you stating that I have suggested those groups are mutually exclusive?</p>
<p>Suz:  I am not &#8220;desperate&#8221; to prove anything.  I made a statement, it was commented on, &amp; counter commented etc.  Matter closed (or not, as the case may be).</p>
<p>Please state why you feel I am &#8220;conservative&#8221;.  Is it something you read in the tarot cards?  Or do you have more concrete documentary evidence?</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 03:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The day after this story was published, the front page headline of the central Queensland newspaper The Morning Bulletin (locally known as The Bullyâ?? dated 20/4/07) read, â??Daytime antics shock riverside residents GAY SEX ROMP IN ROCKY PARKâ?? and yet another gay witchunt driven by Queensland Police and local governmentâ?¦ The gay witchunt (again) coincided with the inaugural screening in Rockhampton, on that same night of a selection of films from the Melbourne Queer Film Festivalâ?¦ who said the Queensland police state culture went away, post Fitzgerald? Seems the more things change, the more they stay the same in the smart ass state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day after this story was published, the front page headline of the central Queensland newspaper The Morning Bulletin (locally known as The Bullyâ?? dated 20/4/07) read, â??Daytime antics shock riverside residents GAY SEX ROMP IN ROCKY PARKâ?? and yet another gay witchunt driven by Queensland Police and local governmentâ?¦ The gay witchunt (again) coincided with the inaugural screening in Rockhampton, on that same night of a selection of films from the Melbourne Queer Film Festivalâ?¦ who said the Queensland police state culture went away, post Fitzgerald? Seems the more things change, the more they stay the same in the smart ass state.</p>
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		<title>By: Ontheotherhand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ontheotherhand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a note to that bloke Steve at the pub: if you ever go to a Fruits in Suits meeting, you&#039;ll quickly note that &#039;camp as all get out gay&#039; and &#039;die-hard Liberal party activist&#039; are in no way mutually exclusive categories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a note to that bloke Steve at the pub: if you ever go to a Fruits in Suits meeting, you&#8217;ll quickly note that &#8216;camp as all get out gay&#8217; and &#8216;die-hard Liberal party activist&#8217; are in no way mutually exclusive categories.</p>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
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		<dc:creator>suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;m involved but I&#039;m certainly not going to bow out of analysis and leave it to people like you who presumably feel that you are above involvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;m involved but I&#8217;m certainly not going to bow out of analysis and leave it to people like you who presumably feel that you are above involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>suz  on &lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/20/not-everybody-loves-good-neighbours/#comment-363115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;23 April 2007 at 10:02 pm&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ??m not a social scientist. If people disapprove of the category of people to which I belong such that they state that they wouldnâ??t want to live next door to people like me, I call that prejudice and I donâ??t call it â??value-freeâ??.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

You are right, you are not a social scientist. You are confusing observer denotation of a behaviour with participant commendation.

I take my methodological cues from Max Weber whose attitude to political bias could best be described as Puritan paranoid. From the pov of a methodological puritan you are &quot;getting involved&quot; and should recuse yourself from the analytical case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>suz  on <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/20/not-everybody-loves-good-neighbours/#comment-363115" rel="nofollow">23 April 2007 at 10:02 pm</a></p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>Iâ??m not a social scientist. If people disapprove of the category of people to which I belong such that they state that they wouldnâ??t want to live next door to people like me, I call that prejudice and I donâ??t call it â??value-freeâ??.</p></blockquote>
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<p>You are right, you are not a social scientist. You are confusing observer denotation of a behaviour with participant commendation.</p>
<p>I take my methodological cues from Max Weber whose attitude to political bias could best be described as Puritan paranoid. From the pov of a methodological puritan you are &#8220;getting involved&#8221; and should recuse yourself from the analytical case.</p>
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