Comments on: Quantum geek blog stoushes hit the big time http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:17:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: philip travers http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364345 philip travers Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:52:14 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364345 I seem to have missed the point of the offered replies,and find it difficult to accept that science alone is involved in Quantum theory computer matters.And can these short replies give justice to where science and engineering views coalesce but, in practice are entirely driven by different reasons to apply ones capabilities of understanding and how to apply it theoretically and or practically!?Therein lies the rub for the non-qualified within either accepted ranks.!?The interested outsider has first to assess am I intelligent enough with the tools of understanding to comprehend that which is being described and to become a function of the commonplace,eg, a bloody computer. I seem to have missed the point of the offered replies,and find it difficult to accept that science alone is involved in Quantum theory computer matters.And can these short replies give justice to where science and engineering views coalesce but, in practice are entirely driven by different reasons to apply ones capabilities of understanding and how to apply it theoretically and or practically!?Therein lies the rub for the non-qualified within either accepted ranks.!?The interested outsider has first to assess am I intelligent enough with the tools of understanding to comprehend that which is being described and to become a function of the commonplace,eg, a bloody computer.

]]> By: MH http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364074 MH Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:54:20 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364074 This is a very interesting post. The boundaries of knowledge and its legitimizing mechanisms are indeed changing it seems. But I wonder how systematic science has traditionally really been. The written word is the most legitimate form of knowledge but other forces - the subjective, the cultural, the ad hoc forms of communication and collaboration - have always had a larger place that science would perhaps liked to admit. This is a very interesting post. The boundaries of knowledge and its legitimizing mechanisms are indeed changing it seems. But I wonder how systematic science has traditionally really been. The written word is the most legitimate form of knowledge but other forces - the subjective, the cultural, the ad hoc forms of communication and collaboration - have always had a larger place that science would perhaps liked to admit.

]]> By: professor rat http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364059 professor rat Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:47:02 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364059 It looks like Marxists abandoned 'scientific-socialism' too soon. Truth is democratic and libertarian socialism were always far more scientific. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. The best blogs being eaten today have earned their popularity through building reputation capital and so it will continue - the natural selection of good ideas. It looks like Marxists abandoned ’scientific-socialism’ too soon. Truth is democratic and libertarian socialism were always far more scientific.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
The best blogs being eaten today have earned their popularity through building reputation capital and so it will continue - the natural selection of good ideas.

]]> By: mick http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364057 mick Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:38:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364057 Austin, there already are examples of papers in physics citing blog posts and comments. Though, the poster and the commenter involved were unquestionably the leaders in the field. The point is that high quality researchers are using blogs more often as a way of communicating their work, blogs are no longer the realm of just crazies. Interestingly, some quantum bloggers have a "no crazies unless you've managed to publish your crazy theory" policy. So if you are a known crank, or demostrate crankish behaviour without a publication record then you get banned. By the way, I'm in favour of peer review and of scientists writing papers as opposed to blog posts in general, this post was just meant to point out that blogs are emerging as a communication tool for scientists. Austin, there already are examples of papers in physics citing blog posts and comments. Though, the poster and the commenter involved were unquestionably the leaders in the field. The point is that high quality researchers are using blogs more often as a way of communicating their work, blogs are no longer the realm of just crazies.

Interestingly, some quantum bloggers have a “no crazies unless you’ve managed to publish your crazy theory” policy. So if you are a known crank, or demostrate crankish behaviour without a publication record then you get banned.

By the way, I’m in favour of peer review and of scientists writing papers as opposed to blog posts in general, this post was just meant to point out that blogs are emerging as a communication tool for scientists.

]]> By: Austin http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364056 Austin Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:26:33 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/04/27/quantum-geek-blog-stoushes-hit-the-big-time/#comment-364056 I have no problem with new ways of doing things, but I am concerned about the due application of the scientific process. Too many blogs claim to have flawless arguments, when they have clear flaws to those with experience in the area in question. Peer review filters most of this noise out. However, I do hesitate to think about the day when conference talks cite blog entries from those crazies out there. (You know who you are). The effort that would go into arguments that don't need to be had would be enormous. I have no problem with new ways of doing things, but I am concerned about the due application of the scientific process. Too many blogs claim to have flawless arguments, when they have clear flaws to those with experience in the area in question. Peer review filters most of this noise out. However, I do hesitate to think about the day when conference talks cite blog entries from those crazies out there. (You know who you are). The effort that would go into arguments that don’t need to be had would be enormous.

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