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57 Responses to “Saturday Salon”


  1. 1 Lefty ENo Gravatar

    PIRMERO!

  2. 2 tigtogNo Gravatar

    Is that the grapefruit flavoured drink or the mandarine flavoured drink?

  3. 3 PinguthepenguinNo Gravatar

    Terzo!!!

  4. 4 BerniceNo Gravatar

    Poo.

  5. 5 BerniceNo Gravatar

    Well I thought I was in with a shot. Just occasionally, I can glimpse why The Tormentor, my ten year old son loves that word so much. Poo.
    He asked me recently what adult words were used for the motions - the scientific were frowned at & the more colloquial received the curled lip. He decided to stick with poo.

    Without the slightest shred of connection - trust you all saw Elizabeth Farrelly’s reference in Wednesday’s column in the SMH to one Laura from Sorrow at Sills Bend. Re Arkley. Go Laura. ‘Indefatigable blogger’.

  6. 6 Lefty ENo Gravatar

    Hey, so I decided not to drink this weekend.

    And boy, its really paying offf. Now im playing chess online, listening to Des O’Connor, and sitting around waiting to carefully mispell in Spanish.

    *shifts closer to wagon edge*

    You know, my Grandad, on the occasion of his 90th, was asked whether abstinence and moderation was the cause of his longevity.

    He said “nah, you dont live longer. It just seems longer”.

  7. 7 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    Quite so Lefty. Never heard of anyone on their deathbed saying they wish they’d had less to drink.

  8. 8 Lefty ENo Gravatar

    Now Im listening to ” Officer Krupke” from westside story. Oh, teehee, hoho…

    Whats happening, blogistas?

    Anyone got some smack? Im off the booze.

  9. 9 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar

    Oh jobbies! Innth!

  10. 10 KimNo Gravatar

    A spectre is haunting the blogosphere, the spectre of McCarthyism:

    Lets hear it for the wharfies

    May 12th, 2007 Rafe Champion

    In view of the TV series that has been made about the 1998 waterfront conflict, what if we get serious about the track record of the waterside workers and other unions that were taken over the communists and criminals?

    Every school child should know the story of the international communist movement and the way it was supported, lied for and protected by lefties, including so-called intellectuals in the west. The story would include the communist takeover of many trade unions, and the sabotage of the war effort by wharfies in the early stage of World War 2. Later came the resistance and rollback by the Santamaria-inspired groups and their non-grouper allies. Sadly the job was not completed and some major unions, notably the wharfies continued on their merry way.

    I wonder how much of that story will be told by the Age and the Fairfax press in the coming months? This story needs to be told in full and it needs to taught to school children regardless of the protests of people who are afraid of the truth on these matters. How much of this story is told in the current text books and the courses that are set in high schools around the nation at present?

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2820

  11. 11 KimNo Gravatar

    This is Saturday Salon #99.

    Who will be first on #100 next week?

  12. 12 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    Zwoelfte/Dwunasty?

    Kim [on Rafe Champion and the Wharfies]:
    Actually, it wouldn’t hurt if every schoolchild did hear about the Communist and the Sanatamaria influences on Australian trade unions way back in the mists of time.

    However, that had bugger-all to do with the Waterfront Dispute of 1998 …. but the story of what happened should be known to every schoolchild nonetheless..

  13. 13 BearCaveNo Gravatar

    From everything I’ve read in recent days, I suspect Labor may gain an advantage by reinforcing a theme not dissimilar to “Productivity growth, from the experience of the individual.�

    While “the big, aggregate numbers� like low unemployment and relatively low interest rates may yet help the Howard Government, ordinary Australians are wise to question whether the end benefit of aggregate performance is still quite “top-heavy� - a distribution of wealth that treats the rich getting richer “as a priority�.

    While I fully comprehend that “class envy� is so last century (I read The Australian newspaper enough to know that :) ), I totally reject throwing the baby out with the bathwater, meaning “Socioeconomic struggle� remains a cause of my concern.

  14. 14 mickNo Gravatar

    Hey kids, for once I’m not in Austria. Bristol is a pretty cool little town. Lots of fab pubs. Pints can hold a lot of beer…

  15. 15 BilBNo Gravatar

    That is a cruel taunt, Mick!!!!

  16. 16 BilBNo Gravatar

    Bad choice of word…..try flaunt….maybe a flaunt taunt…whatever.

  17. 17 Nick CaldwellNo Gravatar

    Any suggestions for a Eurovision drinking game?

  18. 18 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    Mick:
    Not only that, cider also comes in pints. Whoever said the English were not civilized.

    By the way, have you got the recipe for punch?

    No, not Aunty Mary’s birthday party stuff - a tin of fruit salad, orange cordial and a splash of cooking sherry.

    The Austrian stuff that you can buy at any imbiss and that will warm the cockles of your heart on a frosty evening.

  19. 19 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    Any suggestions for a Eurovision drinking game?

    1. Get beer
    2. Pour down throat

  20. 20 Enemy CombatantNo Gravatar

    “Anyone got some smack? Im off the booze.”

    What is it with you Lefty?
    Why can’t you be a responsible schmecker and put a little aside each week for your habit?
    Like any decent, self-respecting Apocetheric Rationalist would.

    Or do you expect the government to supply you with a New Deal every time you’re hangin’ out?

  21. 21 LauraNo Gravatar

    God Bernice, I didn’t see that…is it online? Last time my blog got a mention in the papers it wasn’t a happy experience.

    Indefatigable huh? Blog fatigue only too real, I regret to say.

  22. 22 AlexNo Gravatar

    I’ve been doing some reading lately -

    I love to create stories with strong heroes teaching and leading their feminine heroines as set up in the Bible. Men were never meant to be the wimps the world and the church have taught them to be. They were meant to lead their families, not be a joke to them. They were given authority over all in their families and with that comes the right to back up that authority. Nowhere in the Bible is authority given without the means to back it up. The Bible even says the person in authority has to give account for the ones under his authority. Do you think it would be fair to expect a husband to answer for his wife if he has no control over her actions? I don’t. That’s why I believe he has the right to spank his wife if need be.

    By the way, May is domestic violence prevention month.

  23. 23 philNo Gravatar

    Nick: for every non-word or phrase, eg “bing a bong”, everyone in the room has a drink. The last person standing alive goes out to get the kebabs.

  24. 24 LauraNo Gravatar

    Nick, if you don’t fancy the above suggestions, here’s one.
    http://cookylamoo.com/boringlikeadrill/2007/05/eurovision-song-contest-drinking-game.html

  25. 25 Nick CaldwellNo Gravatar

    Laura, all so far have had a certain rat-cunning about them, but I think your link is the winner. I’ll be printing it out and taking it along tomorrow.

  26. 26 BerniceNo Gravatar

    I’m sorry to report Miss Laura that the pages upon which it appeared were used to light my low carbon emitting woodstove last night. The article was about the symbolic difference in representation of the built environments of Melbourne & Sydney as depicted in the works of Arkley & Whiteley. She made reference to a a post of yours during the house buying frenzy where you commented that a house you were looking at? or bought? (can’t quite remember the emphasis here) though aesthetically challenging had ‘cool’ credentials as it was Arkley-like in its suburban blandness. I’m paraphrasing but that’s the gist of it. It seemed that her referenece to you was as a bellwether of informed application of the Arkley aesthetic - the Melbourne mode of cool.
    Though let it be said that few Sydneysiders reside in positions that give them anything like the blue and light of Whiteley’s landscapes. & those that do seem to be excelling themselves at building monstrous pile of crap taste.

  27. 27 the amazing kimNo Gravatar
  28. 28 boynytonNo Gravatar

    South Of the Border

    (I’m waiting for the ironic-populism settees to hit the op-shops.)

  29. 29 suzNo Gravatar

    Never heard of anyone on their deathbed saying they wish they’d had less to drink.

    I might have been heard to say that, but about three months ago I stopped drinking and I’m feeling really good for it. I wasn’t at all a heavy drinker, btw. I can’t say I won’t ever drink again, but for the time being, I feel alert and not tired and am sleeping incredibly well.
    These people were all heavier drinkers than me, but they all report the same sense of wellbeing.

  30. 30 mickNo Gravatar

    Graham - I know the stuff, it’s a godsend on a winter’s night. I’m a fan of cider, apparently here in Bristol they are particuarly famous for it. I’ll probably be spending a fair bit of time here in the near future so I expect I’ll be sampling the cider soon.

  31. 31 BrianNo Gravatar

    Unfortunately, or fortunately I have to drink, don’t I? Red wine is supposed to be good for my heart.

  32. 32 mickNo Gravatar

    Sigh. I had a pretty decent Spanish red the other day. I don’t normally go for the Spanish wines and i was pleasently surprised.

  33. 33 Ken ScottNo Gravatar

    Try a lemon drink. Or lemon jam. Lemon butter. Bloody lemon anything. Lemons the size of grapefruits. This is spooky. Just last month I completely stripped it of all fruit.

    Lemon tree

  34. 34 joe2No Gravatar

    So who is doing the live blogging of Eurovision?

  35. 35 joe2No Gravatar

    Moldova forgot to tuck the undies in.

  36. 36 ShaunNo Gravatar

    My edict of parenting: No post-natal parental structured activity plan survives meeting the baby (or her waking up for a feed).

  37. 37 ShaunNo Gravatar

    Oh, and Bulgaria for Euorovision (I have no idea if they have made it but Water is pretty rockin’)

  38. 38 Frank CalabreseNo Gravatar

    Methinks the Prime Minature’s walkabout in his electorate may not have the desired effect.

    PRIME Minister John Howard would lose his seat in federal parliament to Labor candidate Maxine McKew if the election was held today, a new poll shows.

    Primary support for Mr Howard in the seat of Bennelong has dropped to 44 per cent, down six per cent from the last election, according to the Galaxy poll.

    In contrast, support for former ABC journalist Ms McKew is at 46 per cent, up 18 points from Labor’s position in the 2004 election.

    The poll, undertaken exclusively for News Ltd, showed that on a similar preference flow to the last election, Ms McKew would win a two-party preferred vote of 52 per cent compared to 48 per cent for Mr Howard.

    http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,21720793-5005361,00.html

    Try and spin THAT Shiemoham :-)

  39. 39 ShaunNo Gravatar

    I like Russia as well.

  40. 40 adrianNo Gravatar

    Why is The Sideshow so crappy?

  41. 41 Sir Henry CasingbrokeNo Gravatar

    Hey Frank, I have a $50 bet with Strocchi on this.

  42. 42 joe2No Gravatar

    “Why is The Sideshow so crappy?”

    “Crappy” it isn’t, in MHO.
    Well targeted for a family, Saturday night, audience. I reckon.
    Give it time and remember that it’s meant to be a sideshow.

    Think how many locals get a job, that does not involve chopping down oldgrowth forests, and remember…. “from little things, big things grow”. La la la….

  43. 43 suzNo Gravatar

    I only saw the first edition of Sideshow and liked it a lot.
    Surprising, though, how many people have mentioned to me that they don’t like Paul McDermott and thus won’t watch that program.

  44. 44 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    There should be more Kransky Sisters and even more *sigh* Claire Hooper

  45. 45 Lefty ENo Gravatar

    And who was that spunky Carnie chick with the whip last week?

    Aya!

  46. 46 Enemy CombatantNo Gravatar

    Suz,
    Paul McDermott reminded me last night of a Christian Brother performing before a new class after his fouth cup of International Roast. He ranged from excellent to flat according to his timing, although the script was mostly lousy. The Ladies in Red and the sword swallower were so-so. Flacco’s injection as a risque Bigfoot saved the show. Lotsa lols.
    Worth another lash if home next Sat.

    “The freaks’ll stay together
    They’re a tight old crew
    You look at them
    And they look at you

    I love the ballyhoo girl
    But she don’t care
    It’s hard to find love anywhere
    Hard to find love anywhere

    See the pig-faced man and the monkey girl
    Come see the big fat lady
    ‘Gator slim with the alligator skin
    Come see the devil baby”

    Mark Knopfler, “Devil Baby” from Ragpicker’s Dream.

  47. 47 The Devil DrinkNo Gravatar

    Lefty E and Suz, I wouldn’t worry greatly about health or the state of your bodies, or worry greatly about alertness or ability to achieve great things. Remember the Tyler Durden principle that on a long enough timeline, everyone’s survival rate drops to zero. Ken Scott is right: pour yourself a chilly limoncello and chase it with something even nicer.

    Go, eat your bread with enjoyment,
    drink your wine with a merry heart;
    for God has already approved what you do.

    (Ecclesiastes 9:7)

  48. 48 MarkNo Gravatar

    And who was that spunky Carnie chick with the whip last week?

    That would be Brisvegas’ own Tigerlil, Lefty E.

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=118366533

    And who could dislike Paul McDermott?

  49. 49 Lefty ENo Gravatar

    Thanks Mark- aya, yo podria mirar en estes ojos para sieglos..

  50. 50 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    Ken Scott:
    Now THAT is a lemon tree.

    Joe2, ChristineKeeler and Shaun:
    Okay. Exactly how do we get the Kransky Sisters into Eurovision Song Contest 2008? Don’t worry about geography; just tell the organizers that Toogoolawah [I think that’s where the Kransky Sisters come from] is a new industrial centre in eastern Andorra or that it’s a small island off the Slovakian coast; she’ll be right.

    Mick:
    Stick to straight cider for the moment - watch out for the stuff that has been concentrated by partial freezing. Have one for me.

  51. 51 Frank CalabreseNo Gravatar

    How Predictable from the Crodent :-)

    JOHN Howard will today outline a new push to “reshape the nation’s education and training landscape” and force public schools to provide more information for parents on bullying and violence in the classroom.
    In a major speech outlining the Government’s agenda if it wins the next election, the Prime Minister will sharpen his attack on Kevin Rudd’s “education revolution” with a pledge to deliver a new era of accountability for parents.

    He will warn that principals need more support to enforce discipline in the nation’s schools and parents must be given report cards on violence and disruptive behaviour.

    In his speech to the Centre for Independent Studies in Sydney, he will also touch on the Government’s proposals to place new compliance requirements on the next four-year $40 billion schools funding deal for the states.

    It is the second in a series of speeches titled Australia Rising, the first of which was delivered last month in Brisbane when Mr Howard warned that only the Coalition could be trusted to deliver targets to cut Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions without wrecking the economy.

    The new schools funding deal that is being prepared by federal officials will include demands for greater autonomy for principals to hire and fire teachers and requirements to publish more information for parents on academic performance and attendance rates.

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21725192-601,00.html

  52. 52 ShaunNo Gravatar

    Graham,

    The Kransky Sisters hail from Esk but I was thinking as well about how to get Australia into Eurovision.

    The Kransky’s moniker may help being of Slovenian origin, which combined with you idea about where to position their home town, may grab support from the influential Eastern European voting block.

  53. 53 BrianNo Gravatar

    Graham and Shaun, Richard Fidler had a bloke on local radio the other day who explained Eurovision and what you had to do to win it. Apparently to get in all you have to do is sign up to the “European broadcast union” (or something like that) Anywhere can do it.

    The bloke gave us 5 criteria to look for and then sang a song, accompanied by his brother, incorporating all the points. It was called something like “Be my yellowcake tonight!”

    But whatever needs to be done to get the Kransky Sisters in should obviously be done. It should be Beattie’s top priority, if the Feds are too stuffy.

  54. 54 silkwormNo Gravatar

    I saw Mamdouh Habib while shopping this afternoon. I went up to him and shook his hand, much to the consternation of my mother who was with me. She still thinks he is a terrorist.

  55. 55 Enemy CombatantNo Gravatar

    Good on you silkworm. Your humanity was more than worth a touch of maternal consternation.

  56. 56 steveNo Gravatar
  57. 57 The Devil DrinkNo Gravatar

    Shock! Cocaine at the bar!

    “Some days, you can talk to them and they’re normal and sensible, other days they are quite unreasonable.”

    Dude… they’re lawyers.

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