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		<title>By: Sir Henry Casingbroke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Henry Casingbroke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 06:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, this proves it. Jeanette, have Jeeves pack the trunk.   
 
1. LABOR  1.85     
2. COALITION  1.92  

This is a total reverse of the odds since yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, this proves it. Jeanette, have Jeeves pack the trunk.   </p>
<p>1. LABOR  1.85<br />
2. COALITION  1.92  </p>
<p>This is a total reverse of the odds since yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 00:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brisbane Times is reporting another loss to the team.

The federal director of the National Party, Andrew Hall, has resigned to take a corporate job in Sydney just months before the federal election. Mr Hall is one of the Nationals&#039; key campaign strategists. Brad Henderson, the party&#039;s Queensland director, will replace him. - Phillip Coorey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brisbane Times is reporting another loss to the team.</p>
<p>The federal director of the National Party, Andrew Hall, has resigned to take a corporate job in Sydney just months before the federal election. Mr Hall is one of the Nationals&#8217; key campaign strategists. Brad Henderson, the party&#8217;s Queensland director, will replace him. &#8211; Phillip Coorey</p>
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		<title>By: Kapunda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kapunda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 00:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree lefty, I think they are rooted so to speak. 

The voters might not put their concerns about their pay packets under the headling of &quot;economic management&quot;, but where they do put it is ahead of the wider issue of the economy which is hardly a surprise. If you accept that this is the case, then it undercuts nearly all the arguments being put by the &quot;press gang&quot;. 

Thats not to say that there are not older people out there who are concerned for their childrens and grandchildrens future working lives under this sort of legislation either. If you have children geting close to joining the workforce then you couldn&#039;t help but worry about this sort of legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree lefty, I think they are rooted so to speak. </p>
<p>The voters might not put their concerns about their pay packets under the headling of &#8220;economic management&#8221;, but where they do put it is ahead of the wider issue of the economy which is hardly a surprise. If you accept that this is the case, then it undercuts nearly all the arguments being put by the &#8220;press gang&#8221;. </p>
<p>Thats not to say that there are not older people out there who are concerned for their childrens and grandchildrens future working lives under this sort of legislation either. If you have children geting close to joining the workforce then you couldn&#8217;t help but worry about this sort of legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 00:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they have to turn soon Hannah - or they&#039;re going to look like total mugs. Its a safe money game, hunting with da op-ed pack, and our man&#039;s looking shaky as hell. 

Point is - people wont look a mug backing Rudd now, even if he does end up losing.

The real thing to watch is not the irrelevant HFG commentariat jumping ship - its the bevy of bureaucrats, industry body figures, senior military, Costello backbenchers and public servants with an axe to grind against this government.

Once these cats start to break ranks there&#039;s going to be shitstorm of dirt for Howard to deal with. He&#039;s made more than a fwe enemies who&#039;ve been intimidated into silence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they have to turn soon Hannah &#8211; or they&#8217;re going to look like total mugs. Its a safe money game, hunting with da op-ed pack, and our man&#8217;s looking shaky as hell. </p>
<p>Point is &#8211; people wont look a mug backing Rudd now, even if he does end up losing.</p>
<p>The real thing to watch is not the irrelevant HFG commentariat jumping ship &#8211; its the bevy of bureaucrats, industry body figures, senior military, Costello backbenchers and public servants with an axe to grind against this government.</p>
<p>Once these cats start to break ranks there&#8217;s going to be shitstorm of dirt for Howard to deal with. He&#8217;s made more than a fwe enemies who&#8217;ve been intimidated into silence.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 00:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, if:

1. The &quot;unions are back&quot; scare campaign gets no voter traction, and merely reinforces the perception of unfair IR laws (now stupidly admitted by the government)

and

2. Voters see IR as a prime economic issue - which of course it is for PAYE workers

then ... what&lt;em&gt; precisely&lt;/em&gt; is Howard going to stage a record poll comeback on? This is his strong suit. 

Dare I suggest there&#039;s a strong possibility that he&#039;s rooted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, if:</p>
<p>1. The &#8220;unions are back&#8221; scare campaign gets no voter traction, and merely reinforces the perception of unfair IR laws (now stupidly admitted by the government)</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>2. Voters see IR as a prime economic issue &#8211; which of course it is for PAYE workers</p>
<p>then &#8230; what<em> precisely</em> is Howard going to stage a record poll comeback on? This is his strong suit. </p>
<p>Dare I suggest there&#8217;s a strong possibility that he&#8217;s rooted.</p>
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		<title>By: hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 00:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kim.
Makes sense to me.
It also makes sense of comments that I have read about the disbelief of journos about Rudd&#039;s seemingly never ending honeymoon and their apparent fear of breaking away from the conforming pack.
Perhaps this development [see link] has significance in the latter respect.
http://blogs.smh.com.au/newsblog/archives/peter_hartcher/013328.html
Particularly interesting with Hartcher&#039;s &#039;debut&#039; is the willingness of his blog commenters to encourage him to take further steps out into the world of journalistic independence.
Almost like loving parents encouraging the toddler on its first tentative steps out of its safety zone.
And oz politics has a link to an article by Peter Martin that dares to mention the productivity issue in a manner which contradictsof the all-powerful economic credentials of the Coalition.

Are they &#039;turning&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kim.<br />
Makes sense to me.<br />
It also makes sense of comments that I have read about the disbelief of journos about Rudd&#8217;s seemingly never ending honeymoon and their apparent fear of breaking away from the conforming pack.<br />
Perhaps this development [see link] has significance in the latter respect.<br />
<a href="http://blogs.smh.com.au/newsblog/archives/peter_hartcher/013328.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.smh.com.au/newsblog/archives/peter_hartcher/013328.html</a><br />
Particularly interesting with Hartcher&#8217;s &#8216;debut&#8217; is the willingness of his blog commenters to encourage him to take further steps out into the world of journalistic independence.<br />
Almost like loving parents encouraging the toddler on its first tentative steps out of its safety zone.<br />
And oz politics has a link to an article by Peter Martin that dares to mention the productivity issue in a manner which contradictsof the all-powerful economic credentials of the Coalition.</p>
<p>Are they &#8216;turning&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Keeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 23:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends! Friends! Listen to me! I have read the words of Dear Treasurer in this morning&#039;s Beluchisatn Blatherer and the scales have been lifted from my eyes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;PETER Costello has launched a massive attack on Kevin Rudd&#039;s economic credibility, describing him as &quot;an old-fashioned socialist&quot; and accusing him of opportunistic and dishonest behaviour.&lt;/blockquote&gt; http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21739647-601,00.html

Rudd&#039;s going to nationalise the banks I tell you! Don&#039;t say you weren&#039;t warned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends! Friends! Listen to me! I have read the words of Dear Treasurer in this morning&#8217;s Beluchisatn Blatherer and the scales have been lifted from my eyes:</p>
<blockquote><p>PETER Costello has launched a massive attack on Kevin Rudd&#8217;s economic credibility, describing him as &#8220;an old-fashioned socialist&#8221; and accusing him of opportunistic and dishonest behaviour.</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21739647-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21739647-601,00.html</a></p>
<p>Rudd&#8217;s going to nationalise the banks I tell you! Don&#8217;t say you weren&#8217;t warned!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 23:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Lewis in the Australian also appears to be finally recognising that the polls are bad for the government and that the government might lose. The rest of the rag is full of the usual hysterical nonsense, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Lewis in the Australian also appears to be finally recognising that the polls are bad for the government and that the government might lose. The rest of the rag is full of the usual hysterical nonsense, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kapunda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kapunda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 23:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly Sir Henry, and to them what goes into their wallet is the economy. 

I don&#039;t think the way voters determine their vote has changed much with these latest poll results. It will always be the hip pocket nerve rather than Iraq or AWB, but essentially Howard&#039;s argument has now boiled down to &quot;take a pay cut&quot; to give more people jobs. Imo as soon as the argument  was reduced to this then the issue was a loser for Howard no mater what spin he put on it. 

Howard has spent eleven years appealing to people&#039;s &quot;hip pocket nerve&quot;  to get him elected and to help them overlook various scandals and misjudgemnets. Now he essentially goes the other way and asks these people to take a hit for the &quot;good of the ecnomy&quot;. It runs counter to the way he has won in the past. 

It has only taken the media around eighteen months to finally get their head around this. Peter Hartcher on his new blog yeaterday came as close as any of them have, to admitting he may have been underestimating the publics reaction to &quot;workchoices&quot;. I think the government spinmakers have done a great job on the media, but as most advertisers will tell you, all the best advertising in the world will not make a bad product good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Sir Henry, and to them what goes into their wallet is the economy. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the way voters determine their vote has changed much with these latest poll results. It will always be the hip pocket nerve rather than Iraq or AWB, but essentially Howard&#8217;s argument has now boiled down to &#8220;take a pay cut&#8221; to give more people jobs. Imo as soon as the argument  was reduced to this then the issue was a loser for Howard no mater what spin he put on it. </p>
<p>Howard has spent eleven years appealing to people&#8217;s &#8220;hip pocket nerve&#8221;  to get him elected and to help them overlook various scandals and misjudgemnets. Now he essentially goes the other way and asks these people to take a hit for the &#8220;good of the ecnomy&#8221;. It runs counter to the way he has won in the past. </p>
<p>It has only taken the media around eighteen months to finally get their head around this. Peter Hartcher on his new blog yeaterday came as close as any of them have, to admitting he may have been underestimating the publics reaction to &#8220;workchoices&#8221;. I think the government spinmakers have done a great job on the media, but as most advertisers will tell you, all the best advertising in the world will not make a bad product good.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry Casingbroke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Henry Casingbroke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 22:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the mystery of the seeming inability of Howard being unable to make headway may be dispelled by the following news this morning:

&lt;blockquote&gt; CONFIDENTIAL Labor Party polling shows Kevin Rudd&#039;s industrial relations policy has received strong support among the crucial category of swinging voters.

Although business and the Government have attacked the policy ferociously since it was launched two weeks ago, the voting public has embraced it, the research shows.

This helps explain why the Labor leader has promised to keep the policy, with only some &quot;fine-tuning&quot;. It might also help explain why support for Labor has held up solidly in published polls, which John Howard admitted yesterday were very bad for the Government - even after last week&#039;s widely praised budget,

The nationwide survey of 500 voters by Labor&#039;s pollster, UMR Research, done early last week before the budget on Tuesday night, also showed a cool response to the Government&#039;s Work Choices law. Asked to assess the impact of Work Choices on working families, the poll found that 16 per cent said it was good, 8 per cent said it made no difference and 57 per cent said it was bad. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s simple really, the IR legislation has been an eyeopener. 

Furthermore, $weetie rattling on how we have never had it so good is neutralised by the fact that some people are going to be worse off by Work Choices (very very cynical nomenclature). The fact that the economy appears to be powering on pisses off punters who realise they are going to miss out on the gravy train.

In other words, the economy is not enough, it&#039;s the voters&#039; wallets, stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the mystery of the seeming inability of Howard being unable to make headway may be dispelled by the following news this morning:</p>
<blockquote><p> CONFIDENTIAL Labor Party polling shows Kevin Rudd&#8217;s industrial relations policy has received strong support among the crucial category of swinging voters.</p>
<p>Although business and the Government have attacked the policy ferociously since it was launched two weeks ago, the voting public has embraced it, the research shows.</p>
<p>This helps explain why the Labor leader has promised to keep the policy, with only some &#8220;fine-tuning&#8221;. It might also help explain why support for Labor has held up solidly in published polls, which John Howard admitted yesterday were very bad for the Government &#8211; even after last week&#8217;s widely praised budget,</p>
<p>The nationwide survey of 500 voters by Labor&#8217;s pollster, UMR Research, done early last week before the budget on Tuesday night, also showed a cool response to the Government&#8217;s Work Choices law. Asked to assess the impact of Work Choices on working families, the poll found that 16 per cent said it was good, 8 per cent said it made no difference and 57 per cent said it was bad. </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s simple really, the IR legislation has been an eyeopener. </p>
<p>Furthermore, $weetie rattling on how we have never had it so good is neutralised by the fact that some people are going to be worse off by Work Choices (very very cynical nomenclature). The fact that the economy appears to be powering on pisses off punters who realise they are going to miss out on the gravy train.</p>
<p>In other words, the economy is not enough, it&#8217;s the voters&#8217; wallets, stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: grace pettigrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>grace pettigrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 21:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree Mark, Combet was superb last night on Lateline, articulating the problem with Howards WC laws in the same way as Keating did recently. Its about human rights stupid. At present it is illegal for people to freely associate to talk about their work conditions. Nowhere else in the western world, including the USA, are there laws this draconian. With Combet now in the game, maybe Australian voters will realise what has been done in their name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree Mark, Combet was superb last night on Lateline, articulating the problem with Howards WC laws in the same way as Keating did recently. Its about human rights stupid. At present it is illegal for people to freely associate to talk about their work conditions. Nowhere else in the western world, including the USA, are there laws this draconian. With Combet now in the game, maybe Australian voters will realise what has been done in their name.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 16:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think that it was operating in the same mode in a sense, hannah - viz. one narrative all about the horse race. Except last time they all wrote &quot;Latham has Howard rattled and is a political genius&quot; stories for about 3 or 4 months when he was ahead in the polls, then flipped the switch into reverse. So the &quot;Howard as a political genius&quot; crud was very much a reaction to their own previous spin on Latham. Now they&#039;re stuck with it, I think, for fear of the Latham narrative coming back to haunt them. So it was all crap back then too, but the sort of crap it was has defined the really crappy crap it is now!

If that makes sense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think that it was operating in the same mode in a sense, hannah &#8211; viz. one narrative all about the horse race. Except last time they all wrote &#8220;Latham has Howard rattled and is a political genius&#8221; stories for about 3 or 4 months when he was ahead in the polls, then flipped the switch into reverse. So the &#8220;Howard as a political genius&#8221; crud was very much a reaction to their own previous spin on Latham. Now they&#8217;re stuck with it, I think, for fear of the Latham narrative coming back to haunt them. So it was all crap back then too, but the sort of crap it was has defined the really crappy crap it is now!</p>
<p>If that makes sense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a question for people here which I hope will draw responses even though this thread is getting down the list.
3 years ago I was far less interested and informed with respect to the reporting by the mainstream media of the political issues of the time.
Now I think I am more aware thanks mainly to the comments and links re MSM from this site.
Now I think its fair to say that there is a strong core of perceptive posters here who regard the current reporting by the MSM to be abyssmal and biased.
Fair observation?
So my question is, what was it like this time 3 years ago?
And for the rest of the run-up to the election?
Was the MSM operating in the same or different mode compared to now?
Stronger or weaker?
And the ramifications therof?
In your opinions.

Any takers?
Ta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a question for people here which I hope will draw responses even though this thread is getting down the list.<br />
3 years ago I was far less interested and informed with respect to the reporting by the mainstream media of the political issues of the time.<br />
Now I think I am more aware thanks mainly to the comments and links re MSM from this site.<br />
Now I think its fair to say that there is a strong core of perceptive posters here who regard the current reporting by the MSM to be abyssmal and biased.<br />
Fair observation?<br />
So my question is, what was it like this time 3 years ago?<br />
And for the rest of the run-up to the election?<br />
Was the MSM operating in the same or different mode compared to now?<br />
Stronger or weaker?<br />
And the ramifications therof?<br />
In your opinions.</p>
<p>Any takers?<br />
Ta.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 15:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that&#039;s right, Lefty E.</description>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 14:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Im starting to feel that the reason ALP got a bounce &quot;despite the budget&quot; was probably because of Howard&#039;s IR &quot;backdown&quot;. 

His faux &quot;backflip&quot; on WC was effectively an admission of how rubbish the system is, and, brilliantly, he also lost the gloss of committment to reform in the same fell swoop. Doh!

And Im big enough to admit Im starting to revise my opinion that some exceptions for over 100k workers are necessary. IR really is the government&#039;s problem patch - when it comes to actual voters. Only the Gazette/commentariat see it as an ALP weak suit. 

And who&#039;s listening to those losers? 

Oh look - more feral price hike sky-is-falling rubbish: http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/labor-hit-by-more-pricehike-fears/2007/05/15/1178995158680.html

What is all this? Im thinking it might be business realising Rudd&#039;s a solid show, and trying to knock the edges of the policy - rather than simply trying to win it for Howard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Im starting to feel that the reason ALP got a bounce &#8220;despite the budget&#8221; was probably because of Howard&#8217;s IR &#8220;backdown&#8221;. </p>
<p>His faux &#8220;backflip&#8221; on WC was effectively an admission of how rubbish the system is, and, brilliantly, he also lost the gloss of committment to reform in the same fell swoop. Doh!</p>
<p>And Im big enough to admit Im starting to revise my opinion that some exceptions for over 100k workers are necessary. IR really is the government&#8217;s problem patch &#8211; when it comes to actual voters. Only the Gazette/commentariat see it as an ALP weak suit. </p>
<p>And who&#8217;s listening to those losers? </p>
<p>Oh look &#8211; more feral price hike sky-is-falling rubbish: <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/labor-hit-by-more-pricehike-fears/2007/05/15/1178995158680.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/labor-hit-by-more-pricehike-fears/2007/05/15/1178995158680.html</a></p>
<p>What is all this? Im thinking it might be business realising Rudd&#8217;s a solid show, and trying to knock the edges of the policy &#8211; rather than simply trying to win it for Howard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 14:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I just said on another post, Lefty E:</p>
<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/05/16/of-manifestos-and-manifestists-or-has-the-future-a-left/" rel="nofollow">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/05/16/of-manifestos-and-manifestists-or-has-the-future-a-left/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The truth of the description of the Ruddite Labor Party as â€œNew Laborâ€? is not in any nonsense about allowing mining companies to trample on collective bargaining rights, but in the degree to which a socially and economically conservative leader has largely accepted the legacy of a decade or so of Howardism, and appears to construct policy alternatives more on a sense of the impossible rather than the possible. Greg Combetâ€™s appearance on Lateline tonight was refreshing in this respect, as it enabled us to conceive of what a more unashamedly social democratic electoral agenda might look like, and although I think Rudd is playing a superb game of electoral politics, itâ€™s an agenda which I very strongly suspect would also enjoy electoral success if only Labor had the courage to articulate it clearly.</p></blockquote>
<p>Combet was superb.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out these magic lines from Combet tonight, re mining co&#039;s:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200705/s1924034.htm

&quot;Will they respect the right of employees individually to freely choose to be a member of a union and to be represented by a union, and secondly will they respect the right of employees to collectively bargain if the majority of them want it,&quot; he said.

&quot;I think if they can come to grips with those two important rights for employees I think there&#039;s every chance of coming up with a really good industrial relations system.

&quot;It&#039;s just not surprising that companies like Rio Tinto have objected to the Labor Party&#039;s industrial relations policy when that policy respects international human rights.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out these magic lines from Combet tonight, re mining co&#8217;s:<br />
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200705/s1924034.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200705/s1924034.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Will they respect the right of employees individually to freely choose to be a member of a union and to be represented by a union, and secondly will they respect the right of employees to collectively bargain if the majority of them want it,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think if they can come to grips with those two important rights for employees I think there&#8217;s every chance of coming up with a really good industrial relations system.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s just not surprising that companies like Rio Tinto have objected to the Labor Party&#8217;s industrial relations policy when that policy respects international human rights.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 14:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that, Stephen. I couldn&#039;t bear to watch Bishop. I&#039;m sure there are thought control rays emanating from those alien eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, Stephen. I couldn&#8217;t bear to watch Bishop. I&#8217;m sure there are thought control rays emanating from those alien eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 14:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was driving around Denistone yesterday afternoon, and I&#8217;d just seen the article in the Australian, and a whole host of ambulances went screaming by, and all I could think was some poor P&amp;C member had been bored to death by another of those the &#8220;Australian Rising&#8221; speech. </p>
<p>Mind you the interview on Lateline was funnier even, I love how Bishop can attack the AEC for their ideal of &#8220;instilling a sense of wonder,&#8221; yet it is sage wisdom when it comes out of the mouth of the PM. Tony Jones really hammered how an the hypocrisy of Howard&#8217;s critique of Labour&#8217;s education policy as â€œalmost soulless and [a] narrow form of national economic service.â€? I don&#8217;t know whether the ARC veto man, P.P. McGuiness that you appointed seem to care much about this &#8220;sense of wonder.&#8221; </p>
<p>TONY JONES: Help us out here Julie Bishop, is the ultimate purpose of education to prepare students for the work place, or is it also to instil a sense of wonder about ideas?</p>
<p>JULIE BISHOP: It&#8217;s clearly a combination. As I said earlier, education is the fundamental, it&#8217;s the essential, it&#8217;s the enduring building block for a cohesive society -</p>
<p>TONY JONES: But you&#8217;re comfortable are you, with that term, &#8216;a sense of wonder&#8217;?</p>
<p>JULIE BISHOP: Well I know where you&#8217;re coming from with that terminology and, of course, education must fire students&#8217; imagination. They must have the capacity to learn, they must be taught to learn over their life time and they must develop a love of learning.</p>
<p>TONY JONES: Here&#8217;s where I&#8217;m coming from, because our viewers may not know. I use the expression &#8217;sense of wonder&#8217; particularly because the Prime Minister is attacking the Australian Education Union for using it. He suggests that they, according to him, suggest that literacy and numeracy tests can&#8217;t assess a child&#8217;s sense of wonder, something you obviously believe should be part of the education system?</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Henry Casingbroke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Henry Casingbroke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, someone is laying off or the Rodent is going to win. Sportsbet now shows reverse of a month ago, with Labor 1.95 to Coalition 1.80; Centrebet same, Lab 1.92, Coalition 1.85 (Budget did sfa to the odds);  Sportingbet still gives us Lab 1.80, Coalition 1.95. 

Before I put the Casingbroke Estate on this (and let us not mention anything to Lady Fiona) we need for the respective blowouts to go over $2. We then have a cert. We&#039;d need a couple of mil, EC. Anything salted away in the mattress old boy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, someone is laying off or the Rodent is going to win. Sportsbet now shows reverse of a month ago, with Labor 1.95 to Coalition 1.80; Centrebet same, Lab 1.92, Coalition 1.85 (Budget did sfa to the odds);  Sportingbet still gives us Lab 1.80, Coalition 1.95. </p>
<p>Before I put the Casingbroke Estate on this (and let us not mention anything to Lady Fiona) we need for the respective blowouts to go over $2. We then have a cert. We&#8217;d need a couple of mil, EC. Anything salted away in the mattress old boy?</p>
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