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	<title>Comments on: Righthinker wrong about blogosphere</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/</link>
	<description>Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas</description>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-378001</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-378001</guid>
		<description>I've just been stuck in a lift so I probably couldn't care less about this topic at the moment. I've been around the blogosphere for 2 or 3 years (don't have a blog anymore and have no intention of ever doing it again - no time and I don't have anything that interesting to say). I think you are placing too emphasis much on the supposed difference between the msm and blogs and blogging and leaving comments. There's a lot of overlap. Yes, I think these forums (and blogs) should be moderated. I also think people should leave their real names. You'll note that on some blogs virtually nobody leaves their real name. I suspect it's because they know what they're writing is nonsense, but they want to be in with the cool group and say really controversial things cause it's such a giggle. I think blogging has merit (for example, as a way of giving certain groups a voice - I mentioned an article about Mormon feminist bloggers recently on this site), however, the Ozpolsphere is chockers with sad little boys hiding behind stupid pretend names. End of rant. I need a cup of tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just been stuck in a lift so I probably couldn&#8217;t care less about this topic at the moment. I&#8217;ve been around the blogosphere for 2 or 3 years (don&#8217;t have a blog anymore and have no intention of ever doing it again - no time and I don&#8217;t have anything that interesting to say). I think you are placing too emphasis much on the supposed difference between the msm and blogs and blogging and leaving comments. There&#8217;s a lot of overlap. Yes, I think these forums (and blogs) should be moderated. I also think people should leave their real names. You&#8217;ll note that on some blogs virtually nobody leaves their real name. I suspect it&#8217;s because they know what they&#8217;re writing is nonsense, but they want to be in with the cool group and say really controversial things cause it&#8217;s such a giggle. I think blogging has merit (for example, as a way of giving certain groups a voice - I mentioned an article about Mormon feminist bloggers recently on this site), however, the Ozpolsphere is chockers with sad little boys hiding behind stupid pretend names. End of rant. I need a cup of tea.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377975</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377975</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;When a court case happened that my sister had to attend (related to a car crash) an article appeared on the paperâ€™s website. Fortunately, people left intelligent and sensitive comments (except one person who was just ridiculous), but I really gritted my teeth before reading them. The quality of comments is very similar on some blogs (do I mention â€œBirdâ€? - tweet tweet). &lt;/i&gt;

But this is a MSM piece, with the ability to leave comments (which does not make it a "blog" - you can leave comments at Your Say in the Age.) So, tell me again why this is not directly to do with the badness of sections of the MSM, rather than blogs? After all, we know that MSM writers , while they often presume to comment on the blogosphere, often reveal they haven't done much blog reading at all. 

Isn't it the ability of unstable people to leave comments which is the issue here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When a court case happened that my sister had to attend (related to a car crash) an article appeared on the paperâ€™s website. Fortunately, people left intelligent and sensitive comments (except one person who was just ridiculous), but I really gritted my teeth before reading them. The quality of comments is very similar on some blogs (do I mention â€œBirdâ€? - tweet tweet). </i></p>
<p>But this is a MSM piece, with the ability to leave comments (which does not make it a &#8220;blog&#8221; - you can leave comments at Your Say in the Age.) So, tell me again why this is not directly to do with the badness of sections of the MSM, rather than blogs? After all, we know that MSM writers , while they often presume to comment on the blogosphere, often reveal they haven&#8217;t done much blog reading at all. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it the ability of unstable people to leave comments which is the issue here?</p>
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		<title>By: Fiasco da Gama</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377963</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiasco da Gama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377963</guid>
		<description>Hmmm. A good question, mutton chops. I'm glad you asked.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. A good question, mutton chops. I&#8217;m glad you asked.<br />
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377960</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377960</guid>
		<description>FdG - 

"Wither the Crusader spirit?"

I can't work out if you're missing an 'h' there or not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FdG - </p>
<p>&#8220;Wither the Crusader spirit?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t work out if you&#8217;re missing an &#8216;h&#8217; there or not!</p>
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		<title>By: Fiasco da Gama</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377959</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiasco da Gama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377959</guid>
		<description>Rereading:
&lt;blockquote&gt;compared with a few years ago, the right-wing blogosphere devotes far less attention to domestic politics&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Or international politics, or politics at all, as far as I can tell. Don't know what's happened to the 2003-2004 Iraq boostering or yaying for organised Parties of the Right, it seems to have been subsumed by Koranic study groups and climate change 'scepticism'. Nobody any more loves foreign adventurism or any involvement with the politics of Government---in other words, the bizarre isolationism of old Black Helicopters Steve Edwards was three years before his time. They're all libertarians now.
Am I the only one left who'll actually barrack for realist liberal interventionism? Wither the Crusader spirit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rereading:</p>
<blockquote><p>compared with a few years ago, the right-wing blogosphere devotes far less attention to domestic politics</p></blockquote>
<p>Or international politics, or politics at all, as far as I can tell. Don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s happened to the 2003-2004 Iraq boostering or yaying for organised Parties of the Right, it seems to have been subsumed by Koranic study groups and climate change &#8217;scepticism&#8217;. Nobody any more loves foreign adventurism or any involvement with the politics of Government&#8212;in other words, the bizarre isolationism of old Black Helicopters Steve Edwards was three years before his time. They&#8217;re all libertarians now.<br />
Am I the only one left who&#8217;ll actually barrack for realist liberal interventionism? Wither the Crusader spirit?</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377945</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377945</guid>
		<description>Fair enough Helen, but those comments things on mainstream sites produce bile, and they're an attempt by the mainstream media to partially adopt blogging as a way of connecting with their readers. 

When a court case happened that my sister had to attend (related to a car crash) an article appeared on the paper's website. Fortunately, people left intelligent and sensitive comments (except one person who was just ridiculous), but I really gritted my teeth before reading them. The quality of comments is very similar on some blogs (do I mention "Bird" - tweet tweet). 

Yes, there are good polblogs, but there's some real hate-filled nutters out there who are obsessed with ideological politics. Nobody learns anything from that stuff. 

There's a lot of social diconnection played out on the blogosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough Helen, but those comments things on mainstream sites produce bile, and they&#8217;re an attempt by the mainstream media to partially adopt blogging as a way of connecting with their readers. </p>
<p>When a court case happened that my sister had to attend (related to a car crash) an article appeared on the paper&#8217;s website. Fortunately, people left intelligent and sensitive comments (except one person who was just ridiculous), but I really gritted my teeth before reading them. The quality of comments is very similar on some blogs (do I mention &#8220;Bird&#8221; - tweet tweet). </p>
<p>Yes, there are good polblogs, but there&#8217;s some real hate-filled nutters out there who are obsessed with ideological politics. Nobody learns anything from that stuff. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of social diconnection played out on the blogosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377913</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377913</guid>
		<description>Kim

&lt;blockquote&gt;Most of the best written and most interesting US political blogs reside in the feminist blogosphere, not the A list political blogs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, I'll bite. Would you mind linking a couple of the better ones, pretty please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim</p>
<blockquote><p>Most of the best written and most interesting US political blogs reside in the feminist blogosphere, not the A list political blogs.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, I&#8217;ll bite. Would you mind linking a couple of the better ones, pretty please?</p>
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		<title>By: lol blogiztan</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377854</link>
		<dc:creator>lol blogiztan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377854</guid>
		<description>Can has interstn communterry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can has interstn communterry?</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377834</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377834</guid>
		<description>Darlene, you keep making the point that blogs are awful by pointing to what are essentially bulletin boards, like the old usenet or MSN. These are not blogs.

If you haven't read any blogs which actually feature good and engaging writing, then you haven't looked far enough. Yes, there are fewer Australian ones, but that is a matter of a much lower population.

Also, can we completely get over this idea that blogs = politics or political engagement. They can have this excellent feature. However, this is a subset of blogs. It is not a requirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darlene, you keep making the point that blogs are awful by pointing to what are essentially bulletin boards, like the old usenet or MSN. These are not blogs.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t read any blogs which actually feature good and engaging writing, then you haven&#8217;t looked far enough. Yes, there are fewer Australian ones, but that is a matter of a much lower population.</p>
<p>Also, can we completely get over this idea that blogs = politics or political engagement. They can have this excellent feature. However, this is a subset of blogs. It is not a requirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377814</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377814</guid>
		<description>Seconded. It makes it very hard to read your comments.

Most of the best written and most interesting US political blogs reside in the feminist blogosphere, not the A list political blogs.

We'd be much the poorer if Australian blogs took on similar roles of partisan organisation. So I'm not at all disturbed if pollies ignore them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seconded. It makes it very hard to read your comments.</p>
<p>Most of the best written and most interesting US political blogs reside in the feminist blogosphere, not the A list political blogs.</p>
<p>We&#8217;d be much the poorer if Australian blogs took on similar roles of partisan organisation. So I&#8217;m not at all disturbed if pollies ignore them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377810</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377810</guid>
		<description>To make explict what I think is implicit in Mark's comment at 7:42: the interesting and engaging political work in blogging in both countries isn't even remotely party political. I think, for instance, Calpundit got a lot less interesting when he became "Political Animal". (I also could rant about how the US's political blogosphere deflated after 2004, but perhaps for another time).

Philip Travers, I implore you -- I beg you -- to more closely examine your relationship with paragraphing and punctuation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make explict what I think is implicit in Mark&#8217;s comment at 7:42: the interesting and engaging political work in blogging in both countries isn&#8217;t even remotely party political. I think, for instance, Calpundit got a lot less interesting when he became &#8220;Political Animal&#8221;. (I also could rant about how the US&#8217;s political blogosphere deflated after 2004, but perhaps for another time).</p>
<p>Philip Travers, I implore you &#8212; I beg you &#8212; to more closely examine your relationship with paragraphing and punctuation.</p>
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		<title>By: philip travers</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377806</link>
		<dc:creator>philip travers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377806</guid>
		<description>I dont know wether the Australian Left needs a good intellectual base,along J.G. lines simply just observe what Darlene has to say,to figure out, the unfair comments and other Squizzy Todds just can not work it out that they are only exercising their computers and not their minds. I am not sure wether Australian interest in Politics including web based stuff like Blogs is as stated by Mark ...passive. Perhaps some basic body armor maybe,but, attitudinal matters may not square with the radar. If you find yourself agreeing with someone,and you do not think you could be as clever in statement as them, and you dont make a statement hence, is it really being passive!? And what is politics if the subject is outside your range of interest or maybe immediate capability!? I long for a Renaissance in Backyarder science and technology,so that, even the more dedicated energy and environmentalist is challenged by an upheaval that makes the Academic Meisters worry enormously.That isnt being anti-Academic more, they need to be challenged as much as those who sit uncomfortably in office. If Academics were challenged, Politicians challenged and the democratic processes having to confront that expertise was itself challenged,so every Bill before a House wasnt solely dependent on experts and submissions,the status quo and the lobbying,but the fear,the backyarder and even business were colluding with communities...that the predators of creativity in all media forms had to work to find out..this would be Renaissance.The blog would be a technical report among enthusiasts. Relationships amongst people would improve automatically,talent driven activity encouraging new skill formations across all interests... by proximity. That which maybe the U.S.A. in part is population determined..they have so many walking gods that the ancient philosophers spring from their dog kennels. Finally,and not as oversight,expression rather than abundant requote of well mastered cliches is obviously required. If no-one reads it immediately,who cares,the minds been exercised.If only I could donate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know wether the Australian Left needs a good intellectual base,along J.G. lines simply just observe what Darlene has to say,to figure out, the unfair comments and other Squizzy Todds just can not work it out that they are only exercising their computers and not their minds. I am not sure wether Australian interest in Politics including web based stuff like Blogs is as stated by Mark &#8230;passive. Perhaps some basic body armor maybe,but, attitudinal matters may not square with the radar. If you find yourself agreeing with someone,and you do not think you could be as clever in statement as them, and you dont make a statement hence, is it really being passive!? And what is politics if the subject is outside your range of interest or maybe immediate capability!? I long for a Renaissance in Backyarder science and technology,so that, even the more dedicated energy and environmentalist is challenged by an upheaval that makes the Academic Meisters worry enormously.That isnt being anti-Academic more, they need to be challenged as much as those who sit uncomfortably in office. If Academics were challenged, Politicians challenged and the democratic processes having to confront that expertise was itself challenged,so every Bill before a House wasnt solely dependent on experts and submissions,the status quo and the lobbying,but the fear,the backyarder and even business were colluding with communities&#8230;that the predators of creativity in all media forms had to work to find out..this would be Renaissance.The blog would be a technical report among enthusiasts. Relationships amongst people would improve automatically,talent driven activity encouraging new skill formations across all interests&#8230; by proximity. That which maybe the U.S.A. in part is population determined..they have so many walking gods that the ancient philosophers spring from their dog kennels. Finally,and not as oversight,expression rather than abundant requote of well mastered cliches is obviously required. If no-one reads it immediately,who cares,the minds been exercised.If only I could donate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377799</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377799</guid>
		<description>Katz, if I'd had more space in the piece I would have added the much more fluid and amorphous nature of US parties compared to Australian party discipline - which is arguably the most rigid around in the Westminster system - compare Britain, NZ and Canada. It's a point I've made before on this topic and it's also related to a generally passive political culture here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katz, if I&#8217;d had more space in the piece I would have added the much more fluid and amorphous nature of US parties compared to Australian party discipline - which is arguably the most rigid around in the Westminster system - compare Britain, NZ and Canada. It&#8217;s a point I&#8217;ve made before on this topic and it&#8217;s also related to a generally passive political culture here.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377793</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377793</guid>
		<description>Machine politics is king in australia.

The full power of the Net would undermine machine politics.

Party apparatchiks therefore handle the net with fireproof tongs.

Apparatchiks want absolute party discipline and voters behaving like the zombies in that famous Apple Ad.

So far, the apparatchiks have maintained control.

One piece of evidence: the fact that Victorian Labor voters blindly elected Stephen Fielding of Family First to the Senate.

With an alert blogosphere, this may not have happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Machine politics is king in australia.</p>
<p>The full power of the Net would undermine machine politics.</p>
<p>Party apparatchiks therefore handle the net with fireproof tongs.</p>
<p>Apparatchiks want absolute party discipline and voters behaving like the zombies in that famous Apple Ad.</p>
<p>So far, the apparatchiks have maintained control.</p>
<p>One piece of evidence: the fact that Victorian Labor voters blindly elected Stephen Fielding of Family First to the Senate.</p>
<p>With an alert blogosphere, this may not have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377790</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377790</guid>
		<description>I'm with Mark and j_p_z, a lot of the American lefty blogs make my eyes glaze over. I'm a fan of Wonkette, not so much because of their inciteful commentary, but more because theit take on things is normally interesting and funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Mark and j_p_z, a lot of the American lefty blogs make my eyes glaze over. I&#8217;m a fan of Wonkette, not so much because of their inciteful commentary, but more because theit take on things is normally interesting and funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377785</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377785</guid>
		<description>It's all about TEH CRUSADES!

Interesting observations about the HuffPost type of blog, j_p_z. With a few exceptions, the US netroots a list type of blog is boring as batshit (I imagine TEH CRUSADERS would have encountered some of that) - ie Kos. Just dreadful partisan puffing composed in about a second flat. That's why I like blogs like Pandagon and Obsidian Wings where you get interesting arguments written well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about TEH CRUSADES!</p>
<p>Interesting observations about the HuffPost type of blog, j_p_z. With a few exceptions, the US netroots a list type of blog is boring as batshit (I imagine TEH CRUSADERS would have encountered some of that) - ie Kos. Just dreadful partisan puffing composed in about a second flat. That&#8217;s why I like blogs like Pandagon and Obsidian Wings where you get interesting arguments written well.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377783</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377783</guid>
		<description>j-p-z

Don't forget the Inquisition and the IRA. ;)</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t forget the Inquisition and the IRA. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377781</link>
		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377781</guid>
		<description>"The fact that The Huff Post can call on so many writers of note means that of course itâ€™s going to be cited more often."

But isn't that exactly what makes it sort of unattractive in this medium, and not really all that interesting a part of the blogosphere qua blogosphere?  (I can't believe I just wrote that last phrase.)

I already know in advance what all the 'writers of note' are going to say about pretty much anything, long before they say it.  I check out the blogosphere because I want to hear what smart people who aren't of all that much 'note' have to say --thoughtful people, frequently quite accomplished in their respective fields, yet squarely off the radar, who have interesting insights and refreshing evaluations of issues partly because they don't have a professional MSM reputation, or a Punditstan paycheck, to protect.

Just as long as they all duly get their knickers in a knot over TEH CRUSADES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The fact that The Huff Post can call on so many writers of note means that of course itâ€™s going to be cited more often.&#8221;</p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t that exactly what makes it sort of unattractive in this medium, and not really all that interesting a part of the blogosphere qua blogosphere?  (I can&#8217;t believe I just wrote that last phrase.)</p>
<p>I already know in advance what all the &#8216;writers of note&#8217; are going to say about pretty much anything, long before they say it.  I check out the blogosphere because I want to hear what smart people who aren&#8217;t of all that much &#8216;note&#8217; have to say &#8211;thoughtful people, frequently quite accomplished in their respective fields, yet squarely off the radar, who have interesting insights and refreshing evaluations of issues partly because they don&#8217;t have a professional MSM reputation, or a Punditstan paycheck, to protect.</p>
<p>Just as long as they all duly get their knickers in a knot over TEH CRUSADES.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377778</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US Democrats also has a significant intellectual base, whereas the Australian Left has absolutely none.

Also, in the U.S. liberalism has always been vital and central to political culture and debate; liberalism has never been important in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Democrats also has a significant intellectual base, whereas the Australian Left has absolutely none.</p>
<p>Also, in the U.S. liberalism has always been vital and central to political culture and debate; liberalism has never been important in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377767</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/19/righthinker-wrong-about-blogosphere/#comment-377767</guid>
		<description>Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.</p>
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