Comments on: The mad, bad and unhinged http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:53:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: steve h http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385322 steve h Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:30:12 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385322 Unfortunately "Kookie" doesn't cover it for this crowd - downright dangerous is more like it... http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/l/larouche-movement/no-joke/ Given they've taken over the CEC and now look to be trying to use the ABC to deliver their "message" (a lot of conspiracy crap and psuedo-mathematics) we might be seeing a lot more of this crap. As for the ABC's panel format - I say bring back Geoffery Robertson - he at least made people think about their answers and use some sort of logic (or am I being a little idealistic here?). The audience also tended to have more than one neuron (as one my friends says "brain so small it has a wave-function"!) and it really was good to see such an intelligent show/format. Paul, the day Alan Moron and his cohorts read one article in a scientific journal and demonstrate an understanding of peer review...I think I'll have to eat my lab-coat/safety goggles/GC-MS/etc :-o Unfortunately “Kookie” doesn’t cover it for this crowd - downright dangerous is more like it…

http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/l/larouche-movement/no-joke/

Given they’ve taken over the CEC and now look to be trying to use the ABC to deliver their “message” (a lot of conspiracy crap and psuedo-mathematics) we might be seeing a lot more of this crap.
As for the ABC’s panel format - I say bring back Geoffery Robertson - he at least made people think about their answers and use some sort of logic (or am I being a little idealistic here?). The audience also tended to have more than one neuron (as one my friends says “brain so small it has a wave-function”!) and it really was good to see such an intelligent show/format.
Paul, the day Alan Moron and his cohorts read one article in a scientific journal and demonstrate an understanding of peer review…I think I’ll have to eat my lab-coat/safety goggles/GC-MS/etc :-o

]]> By: Bruce http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385179 Bruce Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:34:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385179 Helen, that's just beautiful :-) Helen, that’s just beautiful :-)

]]> By: Paul Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385158 Paul Norton Sun, 15 Jul 2007 00:31:26 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385158 Let me belatedly point out that Alan Moron <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/back-off-man-im-an-economist/" rel="nofollow">of electricity molecules fame </a>is also unequivocal and persistent in his view that global warming is a "myth". See <a href="http://www.ipa.org.au/files/news_634.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://www.ipa.org.au/files/news_447.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.ipa.org.au/files/news_498.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Indeed, in a letter published in <em>The Age </em>on 19 October 2006 (before the ABC's decision to screen Durkin's opus), he complained that the ABC's bias was evidenced by its failure in over 10 years to host a single scientist who challenged the "greenhouse myth" to: <blockquote>counter the thousands of appearances of activists with no scientific credentials peddling their prejudices on that matter</blockquote> Obviously the activists think electricity consists of electrons. This letter drew <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/letters/lets-teach-our-kids-to-choose-healthy-food/2006/10/19/1160851062519.html?page=fullpage" rel="nofollow">a response from myself</a>, which included a prediction, intended in jest, about possible consequences of the ABC's anti-bias policy. In the light of recent events it may yet eventuate. Let me belatedly point out that Alan Moron of electricity molecules fame is also unequivocal and persistent in his view that global warming is a “myth”. See here, here and here.

Indeed, in a letter published in The Age on 19 October 2006 (before the ABC’s decision to screen Durkin’s opus), he complained that the ABC’s bias was evidenced by its failure in over 10 years to host a single scientist who challenged the “greenhouse myth” to:

counter the thousands of appearances of activists with no scientific credentials peddling their prejudices on that matter

Obviously the activists think electricity consists of electrons.

This letter drew a response from myself, which included a prediction, intended in jest, about possible consequences of the ABC’s anti-bias policy. In the light of recent events it may yet eventuate.

]]> By: Helen http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385149 Helen Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:36:24 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385149 Bruce, <a href="http://sternezine.blogspot.com/2007/07/very-little-gravitas-indeed.html" rel="nofollow">It's been done!</a> Bruce,

It’s been done!

]]> By: Bruce http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385141 Bruce Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:48:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385141 Re: Darryl Mason I'm looking forward to the next science debaunking doco, The Great Gravity Swidle: The truth is the earth sucks. Re: Darryl Mason

I’m looking forward to the next science debaunking doco,

The Great Gravity Swidle:
The truth is the earth sucks.

]]> By: nasking http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385099 nasking Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:40:38 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385099 Take your time...analyse...evaluate...research...pause...rethink...burp...in the library of knowledge...anything is allowed in the dusty moments of your search for the Truth. Blow, crack open that book...immerse yerself in that volume...check out that CD...clean, revisit that DVD. Look, learn, listen... Before The Eater...The Chaos Cloud...the Sun extinguishes...He Comes...She Arrives...The Apocalypse..."Only One Day Left"...by 2014 they...Phoenix Lights mean...saw a laser beam shoot out of the sea, the volcano...earthquakes & tsunamis...& fish that fly...Mechs...Daleks... Time is running out...time dilates... :) It's up to you... "Ziggy played guitar" Take your time…analyse…evaluate…research…pause…rethink…burp…in the library of knowledge…anything is allowed in the dusty moments of your search for the Truth.

Blow, crack open that book…immerse yerself in that volume…check out that CD…clean, revisit that DVD.

Look, learn, listen…

Before The Eater…The Chaos Cloud…the Sun extinguishes…He Comes…She Arrives…The Apocalypse…”Only One Day Left”…by 2014 they…Phoenix Lights mean…saw a laser beam shoot out of the sea, the volcano…earthquakes & tsunamis…& fish that fly…Mechs…Daleks…

Time is running out…time dilates…

:)

It’s up to you…

“Ziggy played guitar”

]]> By: Darryl Mason http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385095 Darryl Mason Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:44:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-385095 Being a trawler of conspiracy theories, I often find hardcore global warming denialism on the same sites that feast on 9/11 Truth. You'd be amazed how often these two controversies are mentioned on the same 'front pages'. Credit to the hardcore researchers, they really do gather lots of research to back up their claims, and some are open-minded enough to let you decide for yourself without SHOUTING AT YOU, whether they are talking about global warming as a fraud or claiming that the Twin Towers were demolished with explosive (thermite a recent favourite theory), or that Bush Co. knew the attacks were coming and let them through to the keeper, as it were, to get the NeoCons beloved War On Iraq, etc. Does the Blair/Bolt/Ackermonster know they keep such distinguished hardcore conspiracy company as 9/11 Truth researchers? And why are they so willing to utterly dismiss any alternative theories on 9/11 but fully embrace the most dodgy alternative theories on global warming? And the question is still relevant : If the ABC is willing to air such a flawed and conspiracy-minded doco as The Swindle, will they air a 9/11 Truth doco and follow it with a panel discussion? Or how about one of the numerous docos that competently prove that Bush Co. along with Howard and Blair twisted the facts and betrayed the intelligence agencies to force our nations into the Iraq War? Still relevant, the war is still being fought, and will impact on all of us for decades to come. And how about the Great God Swindle? Or the Great War On Terror Swindle? Being a trawler of conspiracy theories, I often find hardcore global warming denialism on the same sites that feast on 9/11 Truth. You’d be amazed how often these two controversies are mentioned on the same ‘front pages’.

Credit to the hardcore researchers, they really do gather lots of research to back up their claims, and some are open-minded enough to let you decide for yourself without SHOUTING AT YOU, whether they are talking about global warming as a fraud or claiming that the Twin Towers were demolished with explosive (thermite a recent favourite theory), or that Bush Co. knew the attacks were coming and let them through to the keeper, as it were, to get the NeoCons beloved War On Iraq, etc.

Does the Blair/Bolt/Ackermonster know they keep such distinguished hardcore conspiracy company as 9/11 Truth researchers? And why are they so willing to utterly dismiss any alternative theories on 9/11 but fully embrace the most dodgy alternative theories on global warming?

And the question is still relevant : If the ABC is willing to air such a flawed and conspiracy-minded doco as The Swindle, will they air a 9/11 Truth doco and follow it with a panel discussion? Or how about one of the numerous docos that competently prove that Bush Co. along with Howard and Blair twisted the facts and betrayed the intelligence agencies to force our nations into the Iraq War? Still relevant, the war is still being fought, and will impact on all of us for decades to come.

And how about the Great God Swindle? Or the Great War On Terror Swindle?

]]> By: MorningDude http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384863 MorningDude Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:17:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384863 I'm with the Hilker and Spiros ABC theory on this. There have been a couple of other more subtle instances of the ABC using its enforced balance at the behest of its right wing masters to allow the right to hang themselves on their own pittards (not as blatant or as wide in scope as TGGWS though). All the ABC promos and press makes it appear as they are publicising some government or right wing cause, but when the thing airs they expose the soft underbelly and flaying mind of the right's cause. They allow them to hang themselves. That disastrous interview for Howard on the 7:30 report was a case in point. The questions were subtle and on the outside had the appearance of being benign in favouring Howard, but cut straight to the problems Howard was having at the time forcing Howard to answer things he probably wanted to avoid. If the TGGWS airing and aftermath was not just a conspiracy theory, but was planned in the deep dark back-rooms of the ABC where the remnants of the old ABC plot their revenge then there is hope for Aunty yet. I’m with the Hilker and Spiros ABC theory on this. There have been a couple of other more subtle instances of the ABC using its enforced balance at the behest of its right wing masters to allow the right to hang themselves on their own pittards (not as blatant or as wide in scope as TGGWS though).

All the ABC promos and press makes it appear as they are publicising some government or right wing cause, but when the thing airs they expose the soft underbelly and flaying mind of the right’s cause. They allow them to hang themselves. That disastrous interview for Howard on the 7:30 report was a case in point. The questions were subtle and on the outside had the appearance of being benign in favouring Howard, but cut straight to the problems Howard was having at the time forcing Howard to answer things he probably wanted to avoid.

If the TGGWS airing and aftermath was not just a conspiracy theory, but was planned in the deep dark back-rooms of the ABC where the remnants of the old ABC plot their revenge then there is hope for Aunty yet.

]]> By: philiptravers http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384816 philiptravers Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:40:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384816 I take LaRouche seriously,and I cannot condemn any of his statements,if indeed they are factual.I think,however the Australian movement of such,is potentially very lazy when it comes to the origins of the Australian Green Movement and anti-nuke movements.National Parks have existed in Australia long before Prince Philip had anything to say,and Jack Mundey of Green Bans certainly didnt seem inspired by the Prince. As for anti-nuke matters LaRouche assumed a film made at Frankston in Victoria inspired the anti-nuke movement modern.Having went to Frankston Tech. and walked along that beach and never seen the film,but remembered kids talking about it..they have the Australians, just accepted his convenient view on that. I carried banners for Aboriginal Land Rights anti mining of uranium. I think LaRouche is unfairly criticised often for all the wrong reasons. His pro science stance is good,why condemn it!? His choice of solutions is a bit lazy and lousy..I feel a lot of what he says about Green Activists today is a bit sad and unfriendly,I am not moved by eugenics when I support conservation values,and I would of thought on that matter,to be opposed to eugenics is surely left wing.There is a lot of sniping at La Rouche I think he doesnt deserve it,but maybe some of his followers are not the deepest thinkers on the block,and,must remember,they are Australian,which means something significant to me if somebody fires off a round of LaRouche bullets and does me a deep injustice in doing so.So how come all the workers in the coal industry are neither LaRouchers or Prince Philipists!? And not even known to be anti science as much more pressing concerns affect them! Being paid by the likes of Rio Tinto and Billington fairly.The ABC is no gatekeeper to the future and once again has proven it bludges on others for the sake of its own sense of superiority and those who think it is a fair and balanced reporter. As a opponent of nuke power stations,I think La Rouche is an improvement and worthy opponent,because he has got some integrity which is missing elsewhere. I take LaRouche seriously,and I cannot condemn any of his statements,if indeed they are factual.I think,however the Australian movement of such,is potentially very lazy when it comes to the origins of the Australian Green Movement and anti-nuke movements.National Parks have existed in Australia long before Prince Philip had anything to say,and Jack Mundey of Green Bans certainly didnt seem inspired by the Prince. As for anti-nuke matters LaRouche assumed a film made at Frankston in Victoria inspired the anti-nuke movement modern.Having went to Frankston Tech. and walked along that beach and never seen the film,but remembered kids talking about it..they have the Australians, just accepted his convenient view on that. I carried banners for Aboriginal Land Rights anti mining of uranium. I think LaRouche is unfairly criticised often for all the wrong reasons. His pro science stance is good,why condemn it!? His choice of solutions is a bit lazy and lousy..I feel a lot of what he says about Green Activists today is a bit sad and unfriendly,I am not moved by eugenics when I support conservation values,and I would of thought on that matter,to be opposed to eugenics is surely left wing.There is a lot of sniping at La Rouche I think he doesnt deserve it,but maybe some of his followers are not the deepest thinkers on the block,and,must remember,they are Australian,which means something significant to me if somebody fires off a round of LaRouche bullets and does me a deep injustice in doing so.So how come all the workers in the coal industry are neither LaRouchers or Prince Philipists!? And not even known to be anti science as much more pressing concerns affect them! Being paid by the likes of Rio Tinto and Billington fairly.The ABC is no gatekeeper to the future and once again has proven it bludges on others for the sake of its own sense of superiority and those who think it is a fair and balanced reporter. As a opponent of nuke power stations,I think La Rouche is an improvement and worthy opponent,because he has got some integrity which is missing elsewhere.

]]> By: Meg Ryan http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384815 Meg Ryan Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:05:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384815 I don't want what she's having. I don’t want what she’s having.

]]> By: Post Global Warming Triste http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384809 Post Global Warming Triste Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:25:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384809 Snork! zZZZ Snork! zzzZZZ Snork! Poot! Pfffffft! Snork ... Snork! zZZZ Snork! zzzZZZ Snork! Poot! Pfffffft! Snork …

]]> By: mister z http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384806 mister z Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:43:11 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384806 Thank you Phil for providing the clip, a delightful dose of ZOMG LOL ROFL!!1! if ever there was one. Thank you Phil for providing the clip, a delightful dose of ZOMG LOL ROFL!!1! if ever there was one.

]]> By: Anthropogenic Global Warming http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384802 Anthropogenic Global Warming Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:29:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384802 Mmmmmmm, mmmmmmmm, MMMMMMMMMMMM ... Mmmmmmm, mmmmmmmm, MMMMMMMMMMMM …

]]> By: my (imaginary) girlfriend's orgasm http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384801 my (imaginary) girlfriend's orgasm Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:28:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384801 Oh yes! yes! yes! That's soooo goooood. Oh yes! yes! yes! That’s soooo goooood.

]]> By: Christine Keeler http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384800 Christine Keeler Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:11:19 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384800 <blockquote>I’m still not sure of the relevance to Global Warming</blockquote> All part of the mysterious plan of the Lord of the Central Processors http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/12/the-government-gazette-fights-back-ii/#comment-384467 for barmaid standings http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/12/the-government-gazette-fights-back-ii/#comment-384476

I’m still not sure of the relevance to Global Warming

All part of the mysterious plan of the Lord of the Central Processors http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/12/the-government-gazette-fights-back-ii/#comment-384467 for barmaid standings http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/12/the-government-gazette-fights-back-ii/#comment-384476

]]> By: Styx http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384796 Styx Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:52:57 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384796 Let see if I get this straight Carbon dating good when it proves coal deposits are only 4,000 years old (what the!!). Carbon dating bad when it proves, oh basically everything else other than that God created the earth in six days (remember people he rested on the 7th!) in 4004 BC. Good to know but I'm still not sure of the relevance to Global Warming ... Let see if I get this straight Carbon dating good when it proves coal deposits are only 4,000 years old (what the!!). Carbon dating bad when it proves, oh basically everything else other than that God created the earth in six days (remember people he rested on the 7th!) in 4004 BC.

Good to know but I’m still not sure of the relevance to Global Warming …

]]> By: Steve from Brisbane http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384784 Steve from Brisbane Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:33:45 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384784 Um, a technical point about the original post. Spielberg had nothing to do with any of the Star Wars movies. Nothing whatsoever. (Well, except for ET style aliens making a fleeting appearance in, I think, Episode 2.) Now, back to the discussion. Um, a technical point about the original post. Spielberg had nothing to do with any of the Star Wars movies. Nothing whatsoever. (Well, except for ET style aliens making a fleeting appearance in, I think, Episode 2.)
Now, back to the discussion.

]]> By: Fiasco da Gama http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384768 Fiasco da Gama Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:28:13 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384768 Benefit, Phil? Do you have something to declare to the ATO that they don't know about? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpy4xNAnWzM" rel="nofollow">You say coke, I say caine...</a> Benefit, Phil? Do you have something to declare to the ATO that they don’t know about?
You say coke, I say caine…

]]> By: Phil http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384758 Phil Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:07:38 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384758 FdG, you're just saying that for my benefit aren't you? FdG, you’re just saying that for my benefit aren’t you?

]]> By: Clorox Bottles and Plastic Fly-Swatters with Red Dots on Them http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384757 Clorox Bottles and Plastic Fly-Swatters with Red Dots on Them Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:01:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/07/13/the-mad-bad-and-unhinged/#comment-384757 It all sounded very convincing to me. The discussion gave me a lot of interesting new ideas, which I am eager to investigate, as soon as I finish working on my robot. It all sounded very convincing to me. The discussion gave me a lot of interesting new ideas, which I am eager to investigate, as soon as I finish working on my robot.

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