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102 Responses to “Saturday Salon”


  1. 1 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    Feist!

  2. 2 Robert BollardNo Gravatar

    Seicond

  3. 3 Fiasco da GamaNo Gravatar

    The Australians were embarrassing in Bangkok. Yes, I’m talking about the football.
    I can forgive Schwarzer, because everyone has brain explosions, but there was only about ten minutes of defensive football played by the Aussies in the whole match.
    Worst on ground: Lucas Neill.

  4. 4 LeinadNo Gravatar

    FFA Courtesy Package to G. Arnold, Suite #5262 Bangkok Hilton.

    1x Ceremonial Kimono

    1x Katana

    1x Wakizashi

    4x Loyal Retainers

    1x Calligraphy pen, ink, etc

    “Arnold-san. You know what to do.”

    Welcome to Asia.

  5. 5 MHNo Gravatar

    Welcome to Asia.

    This bizarre reference to Japanese occupation of South East Asia is in very poor taste, if not rather offensive.

  6. 6 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar

    Guess who:

    LAST month Australians endured our coldest June since 1950. Imagine that; all those trillions of tonnes of evil carbon we’ve horked up into the atmosphere over six decades of rampant industrialisation, and we’re still getting the same icy weather we got during the Cold War.

    Given the obvious connection between the Cold War and cold weather, the solution to climate change is obvious - bring back the Soviet Union!

  7. 7 MorningDudeNo Gravatar

    …and what about parts of the US having the hottest ever recorded temperatures (118F in one case) for the longest extended periods, doesn’t that balance out our coldest? Or has the CO² migrated?

    What is really worrying is that they are often serious over there.

  8. 8 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar
  9. 9 BilBNo Gravatar

    As election day draws nearer, and policies laid out, positions taken and polls roll in, it is becoming clear that as certain as GW is real, John Howards days dominating our televisions are all but over. This naturally brings up the prospect of the Howard memoirs.

    Contemplating the nature of the Howard stewardship, the overbearing arrogance, the patronising putdowns, the procession of lies, the Cole inquiry omissions of memory, the media manipulations, biassed reports, the illconceived lurches to action, etc, one is left pondering what sort of document such memoirs could be. This would certainly have to be a work of fiction, long winded, highly selective in its subject matter, and extensively self congratulatory. It is very likely to find a place beside the Bush memoirs set well apart from the Blair Phenomenon, and be on the short list of publications least likely to inspire a movie (its most probable literary award). The first edition Howard three volume novel is sure to find a place on exclusive suburban curbside council collection pickup piles and in garage sales years from now.

  10. 10 Greensborough GrowlerNo Gravatar

    I don’t thimk any right thinking author would only put these brazenly positive aspects of Howard’s political career on paper.

  11. 11 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    Misheard news report: Last night the airwaves were awash with news of Rio-Tinto’s latest takeover bid, “the biggest takeover in the international miming industry.”

    I’m still conjuring with that fascinating thought…

  12. 12 anthonyNo Gravatar

    So CK, should I marbuy or marcell?

  13. 13 DanielNo Gravatar

    Perhaps Howard could take over the coaching of the Socceroos after the brilliant jobs he’s done securing the financial status and future of all Aussie Battlers!

    Of course by battlers I mean those who are battling to put Grange on the dining table each night!

  14. 14 Robert BollardNo Gravatar

    Shares have always had an imaginary relationship to the commodities they represent - not to mention the labour that produced those commodities. Shares, futures, takeovers, mergers…’tis nothing but a mime act.

  15. 15 Robert MerkelNo Gravatar

    No more imaginary than cash.

  16. 16 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    But think of all the frantic mime action on a silent trading floor as paper empires are exchanged in a flurry of hand-movements and face-paint…

  17. 17 LeinadNo Gravatar

    MH- wth?

  18. 18 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    …interviews on Lateline Business would also be pretty interesting, as the alpha movers and shakers of the international miming industry jockey for competitive advantatge

  19. 19 Christine KeelerNo Gravatar

    Then there’s the exposes of the downside of the glittering world of mime: the drugs; the booze; the sex

  20. 20 Fred BNo Gravatar

    Could it be that Election 2.0 has taken off in a big way with the launch of the official myspace vehicle for it?

    Kev’s been having a torrid honeymoon with it, racking up >4000 friends and ~500 comments in less than 2 days since the msm went to air with the story.

    Sure a lot of ‘em won’t have a vote, but they sound rapt that Kev added’em to their friends list, putting him in their pride of place. If that enthusiasm affects their parents vote, well there just might be the decisive margin in it, depending on which electorates are engaging. Did the census have a question about how many many folks in the house MySpaced?

    Myspace reckons there are 3 million active accounts in Australia. Of course there will be redundancies, and wastage, but if there are say 1 million unique, engaged MySpacers exposed to the e-Ruddernaut, and he goes the way he is, and it’s not just a short cherry picking season, then it’s just possible the numbers will be there for him, and we might yet see a potent Election 2.0 phenomenon. What odds can I get that he’ll not hit 10,000? Then it’d go viral.

    I clocked him as having only 62 friends on thursday morn 9.30. He’d hit the 4000 mark by that time this morning, so , given that they’ve been working/ school days intervening, it really is a phenomonal add rate, even the overall average is almost 2/min.

    And it doesn’t look to me that any friendadder bot scripts were deployed, these are genuine Rudd fanbois and girls.

    I reckon the libs will be getting a tad nervous, getting textor out of bed quick smart. They rolled out Malcolm T. as their answer with a lame dig at Kev for not leaving his Facebook open to automatic add or something.

    Ummm, what part to 4123 vs. 123 don’t they understand?,

  21. 21 MorningDudeNo Gravatar

    Greensborough Growler

    I don’t thimk any right thinking author would only put these brazenly positive aspects of Howard’s political career on paper.

    You raise an interesting point that leads to a time bomb ticking for Howard. No other still serving PM in our history has had so many serving and ex senior public servants, serving and ex advisors, serving and ex personal staff, serving and ex bureaucrats, serving and ex senior ranking military/intelligence personnel and even serving and ex party hacks speak out against them.

    Howard has had less books written about him than any other still serving PM, for stuffs sake Rudd already has two books out about him and Beazley absolutely swamped Howard. The few books Howard has had written were mostly negative (and reasonable sellers), and the positive ones were dismissed (and woeful sellers).

    There is the promise of an explosion of exposes when the statute of limitations runs out or when retirement comes to many currently serving personnel across the gamut of government and the party, who are constrained by the secrecy act or by Howard’s draconian anti-whistle blower laws, which can lead up to 20 year jail terms. Then there is the mountain of discriminating documentation that Howard will not be able to shred, like the Treasury documents he has denied public release under FOI as not in the public interest by going to the Federal court (via Costello).

    I honestly believe history is not going to be very kind to John Winston Howard.

  22. 22 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar

    MorningDude,

    History will remember Howard as the man who preferred to destroy his own political party than face an obviously inevitable defeat. A man who couldn’t find a way to go gracefully when the time came, because he didn’t have an ounce of grace in his makeup. A man who only kept his Prime Ministership because none of his rivals was game to challenge him for the thankless task of leading the Liberal Party back into opposition.

    Unless the polls turn of course … but that’s looking increasingly unlikely.

  23. 23 Meg RyanNo Gravatar

    A man who couldn’t find a way to go gracefully when the time came, because he didn’t have an ounce of grace in his makeup.

    Indeed. You’d think that, having taken one rather nasty leaf out of Tony Blair’s book, he’d be able to take another and much prettier one, wouldn’t you.

  24. 24 Pavlov's CatNo Gravatar

    Oops, still channelling Meg Ryan up there, I see.

    Wishful thinking.

  25. 25 LeinadNo Gravatar

    Gummo: to be fair, even though he spent all of 2006 lagging in the polls, I can see why he and the Liberal party in general were pretty sanguine about knocking over the Beazer for the third time, and when Rudd took over he could hardly bail out without looking the consummate coward and worsening the Lib’s chances even further.

  26. 26 melaleucaNo Gravatar

    Bollard says:

    “Shares have always had an imaginary relationship to the commodities they represent - not to mention the labour that produced those commodities. Shares, futures, takeovers, mergers…’tis nothing but a mime act.”

    Keep waving that red flag, Bollie.

  27. 27 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar

    Leinad,

    There is a graceful way out for Howard, but it’s a painful one - I described it on my own blog today:

    It’s about time John Howard read the writing on the wall and made that visit to the Governor-General, don’t you think? Sure, he’d go down in history as the Prime Minister who led the Liberal Party into oblivion but, as a Burkean Conservative, you’d expect him to look to the interests of the nation and exercise his sovereign conscience accordingly.

    It’s a thought I’ve had on my mind for a few weeks. It’s highly unlikely that Howard would do such a thing but it’s getting depressingly tedious watching him try to stave it off. Because the only way he can stave it off is to come up with another wedge issue to divide the country even more.

  28. 28 LeinadNo Gravatar

    Gummo: I thought you were referring to his refusal to hand over leadership last year and give someone else a go. As far as getting this stupid charade over with is concerned we’re in complete agreement. He can’t seriously expect that dragging this out to November is going to endear him any further to the electorate, most of whom are sick of this year-long unofficial campaign business to start with. His wedges have looked decidely soggy in recent times and Rudd is pretty much dead-batting his way to the Lodge with a substanial total on the board. This is turning into Warne vs Pieterson at Adelaide: come November the only viewers left will be the tragics.

  29. 29 Mime onlineNo Gravatar

    .

  30. 30 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar

    The GGWS debate, dance remix.

    Doesn’t take long, does it?

  31. 31 CrowlieNo Gravatar

    So with Howard in government we’re also twenty years behind on global warming. How comforting.

  32. 32 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    MorningDude [1:56pm Bastille Day]
    Oh no it’s not ….. IMHO, the best story is sitting way back in the mists of time when he was a Young Liberal …..

  33. 33 DanielNo Gravatar

    Gummo, I disagree. If Howard really thinks he’s going to lose (and he may have a terrorist attack up his sleeve) he will resign tomorrow. Not for him the Keating humiliation.

    He knows it won’t look so good in his memoirs (which will surely sell 50 copies).

  34. 34 CruiseyNo Gravatar

    The GGWS debate:

    Did Prof David Karoly or did he not shoot himself in the foot the other night? In a response to Prof Bob Carter, he said that the ‘final nail in the solar forcing coffin’, was that solar activity heats up the stratosphere and that’s where we would expect to see warming if it were due to the solar effects, but the temperature of the stratosphere has been cooling in the last 30 years. Go to
    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/swindle/
    and choose the ‘Debate’ tab and choose part 2.

    However, in Tony Jones’ interview of Martin Durkin, (on Youtube, Interview Part 2)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goDsc9IaSQ8&mode=related&search=
    scientists query the solar activity-temperature graph because the solar activity trend line stops at 1970-1980 (actual year not clear to me). They say that while the temperature continues to rise, the solar activity line dips and falls away.

    This appears to me to be consistent with the declining temperature in the stratosphere, according to Karoly’s comments.

  35. 35 BilBNo Gravatar

    Daniel,

    Howards not going to quit early simply because he is only in there for the money. He didn’t have what it takes to be a entrepreneur so this is the best paying job that he could get. And then there is the vision. Hands up the wit who pointed out that Howard has only ever had one vision for Australia, and that is an Australia with him as Prime Minister. If he quits, then the vision is gone.

    I hear a lot of tapping going on. Feet tapping, biros clicking, repeat thoughts washing around peoples heads, people getting snappy with one another. This is the territory of the impatient wait. The expectation is now, every one is ready for the show to begin. But, some one is delaying, dragging it out. God, I need a beer.

  36. 36 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar

    Cruisey,

    The bit of the atmosphere we live in is the lower down bit - the troposphere. That’s also where the CO2 tends to stay because the CO2 molecule is “heavier than air” (molecular weight (MW) 44 where O2 has MW 32 and N2 (nitrogen) MW 28).

    Karoly’s observation was that if the warming was caused by the sun the stratosphere should be warming not cooling so the observed warming of the troposphere can’t be explained by solar activity ergo the cause is something else - i.e. increased CO2 concentration and lower O2 concentration.

    In the interview, Tony Jones nailed Durkin on that point. Once the data after 1980 is included in the graph we see the temperature average go up while the solar activity goes downward. If, as Durkin claims, the sun were the driver of global warming the two lines would stay together as they had in the past. The fall in solar activity would take the temperature down with it. Why did Durkin leave out that data? Because he knew it would explode his case.

    No, Karoly did not shoot himself in the foot.

    You should probably take any further comments on Durkin’s “documentary” here. Otherwise some grumpy moderator bastard might delete them.

  37. 37 PhilNo Gravatar

    The Government Gazette has changed their look. Looks like a sheet of paper.

  38. 38 HilkerNo Gravatar

    LAST month Australians endured our coldest June since 1950.
    TBlair

    And, IIRC, our warmest autumn. Not to mention one of the predictions of global warming theory is increasing instability of weather patterns.

    I honestly believe history is not going to be very kind to John Winston Howard.
    Morning Dude

    I agree with that. And that reckoning will be a lot swifter than usual. The dam will burst the day he loses power, and hence control of the debate.

    If, as Durkin claims, the sun were the driver of global warming the two lines would stay together as they had in the past.
    Gummo Trotsky

    There it is. Correlation is not causation. But lack of correlation is definitely lack of causation.

  39. 39 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar

    But lack of correlation is definitely lack of causation.

    Nice one Hilker - mind if I take it out for a spin some time?

  40. 40 steveNo Gravatar

    Easily done Phil but have they changed their Pro Government attitude?

  41. 41 HilkerNo Gravatar

    Re: The GGWS debate, dance remix.

    These are good, for those who haven’t seen them.

    http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=rocsims&p=r

    Check the Howard and Keating videos in particular.

    Good Ol’ Red.

  42. 42 HilkerNo Gravatar

    Nice one Hilker - mind if I take it out for a spin some time?

    Go for it. It needs much more exercise.

  43. 43 John SurnameNo Gravatar

    Actually, the remix was done in a video editor as a video (defintely inspired by Red, but no morphs!), but it wouldn’t export properly (something to do with the divX codec - forgive me, I’m not a geek) so I converted the MPEG into an Mp3 instead.

  44. 44 mark (not B)No Gravatar

    There is a rumour doing the rounds in Sydney that there is a tunnel being constructed from an underground carpark to the Opera House so that GWB doesn’t have to run the gauntlet of city streets and potential threats during the Big Kahuna Gab-fest. It is suggested that construction is being funded by the Australian taxpayer.
    Anybody heard this or know something further?

    Also a helicopter with mobile phone jamming equipment will be deployed.
    It is on the back page of today’s SMH, but I have also been hearing it from construction folk over the last few weeks.

  45. 45 Gummo TrotskyNo Gravatar

    Cruisey,

    Last time you posted your comment on Global Warming I deleted it. Your repost is sitting in moderation.

    In my reply to your first comment, I specifically asked you to post any further comments on global warming here.

    While this is an open thread, I for one don’t want to see other topics swamped by comments on a specific issue that is dealt with in other posts on this site. That’s why you’re now in moderation.

    No correspondence, yada, yada.

    Would someone care to toss in a mime comment so we can lighten the mood up again?

  46. 46 ZarquonNo Gravatar

    Richard Dawkins popularized the idea of mimes in his excellent book The Selfish Gene.

  47. 47 crankynickNo Gravatar

    I can’t think of a good mime gag, so I’ll take it back to football instead.

    As an antidote to the blanket news coverage of a crap Mancunean going to play for a third rate Yank team -

    George Best on David Beckham:

    “He cannot kick with his left foot, he cannot head a ball, he cannot tackle and he doesn’t score many goals.

    Apart from that he’s all right.”

  48. 48 RobertNo Gravatar

    Phil notes:

    The Government Gazette has changed their look..

    Fairfax did so too, not too long ago. Prior to doing so it made mention on site that it was to present differently, as attempt to gentle the change with its readership; and, if memory serves, it provided a preview link for three weeks or so where you could check out how it would appear. It was a significant change; it jolted readers. The rider ran something as: “we know it’s going to affect readers, and appear quite differently, yet we believe it’s better and you’ll get used to it. Give it a go.” A rough assessment at the time prior to change was that it would be rejected - not so, as it happened.

    Has this prior notice happened with GG? Not that it matters much, perhaps. Still, it is a significant change. An observation FWIW is that it’s much more open, much more accessible. It’s clever. The old idea of this newspaper-as-printed transferring its image to the net has gone. This is a change of masthead appearance, from print to net. Viewing the new look, the desire for stateliness has given way to a more dynamic, open, here-is-what-you-want-come-and-get-it net energy: forget about struggling with a broadsheet here, this is the feed the must-have requirement of the modern online age. This is an internet look, and its effect cannot be discounted. It’s also ripe for younger viewers. It may, in no short time again, make Fairfax online as it presents as rather stiltiish and obsolete.

    Early days, as Australian text media goes online, but this move could prove very powerful. Don’t sell it short. Yes, it’s about content - but the one thing about content is that it is housed, bracketed, by how it embraces you, visually. On first blush, removing the old masthead, visually constricting ‘newspaper’ look to go this way opens up a new ball game.

  49. 49 sw0rdfishtromboneNo Gravatar

    Sole survivor sitting on a $5b fortune

    I haven’t read an article that made me feel this good in ages - almost makes you believe that there might be a future for this planet after all.

  50. 50 ShaunNo Gravatar

    Richard Dawkins popularized the idea of mimes in his excellent book The Selfish Gene.

    No. I believe that was Marcel Marceau.

  51. 51 ZarquonNo Gravatar

    OK.
    Richard Dawkins popularized the idea of mimes in his book The Selfish Marcel Marceau.

  52. 52 j_p_zNo Gravatar

    “Would someone care to toss in a mime comment so we can lighten the mood up again?

    Happy to oblige.

    “Mime eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
    He is peeling down the alley in a black and yellow Ford.”

    “All I can hear,
    I Me Mime, I Me Mime, I Me Mime.
    Now the frightened are saying it,
    Everyone’s playing it,
    Flowing more freely than wine.
    All through yr life,
    I Me Mime.”

    “It’s dark as a dungeon,
    Down past the dew,
    Danger is double,
    Pleasures are few.
    Where the rain never falls,
    The sun never shines.
    It’s dark as a dungeon
    Way down with the mimes.”

    “Your southern can is mime.”

    This stuff pretty much writes itself.

  53. 53 Robert BollardNo Gravatar

    Melaleuca,

    Though cowards flinch
    and traitors sneer
    I’ll hold the imaginary red flag
    Into the wind here

  54. 54 Pretend It Like PreteckhamNo Gravatar

    “As an antidote to the blanket news coverage of a crap Mancunean going to play for a third rate Yank team…”

    Is there any other kind? (of soccer team, mind you, not of Yank teams…)

    Beckham’s arrival is just the yawn-cherry atop a vast, bland, worldwide layer-cake of soccer yawns. Granted D.B. seems to be quite a brilliant athlete in his own way; but so, I’m sure, are the world champeens of jai-alai and tiddlywinks.

    Why only yesterday I had the immense pleasure of watching a women’s world softball championship show-down between China and the US; and I swear, enough more interesting things happened, more interesting strategic decisions taken, more daring risks and initiatives in just the first inning, than in the entire history of soccer on all its several snoring continents. Get a real sport. Or, failing that, rugby, Aussie rules football, and cricket will certainly suffice.

    – j_p_z, diggin’ that windmill…

  55. 55 j_p_zNo Gravatar

    Gratuitous Beauty (Which Some Maintain Is the Only Kind) Dept. –

    Apart from athletic recriminations posted for sheer puckish fun, this here is courtesy of the genius of the saintly Marianne Moore…

    Durer would have seen a reason for living
    in a town like this, with eight stranded whales
    to look at; with the sweet sea air coming into your house
    on a fine day, from water etched
    with waves as formal as the scales
    on a fish.

    One by one in two’s and three’s, the seagulls keep
    flying back and forth over the town clock,
    or sailing around the lighthouse without moving their wings —
    rising steadily with a slight
    quiver of the body — or flock
    mewing where

    a sea the purple of the peacock’s nest is
    paled to greenest azure, as Durer changed
    the pine-green of the Tyrol to peacock blue and guinea
    grey. …

    … Liking an elegance of which
    the source is not bravado, he knows by heart the antique
    sugar-bowl-shaped summer house of
    interlacing slats, and the pitch
    of the church

    spire, not true, from which a man in scarlet lets
    down a rope as a spider spins a thread;
    he might be part of a novel, but on the sidewalk a
    sign says C.J. Poole, Steeple-Jack,
    in black and white; and one in red
    and white says

    Danger. …The hero, the student,
    the steeple-jack, each in his way,
    is at home.

    It could not be dangerous to be living
    in a town like this, of simple people,
    who have a steeple-jack placing danger-signs by the church
    while he is gilding the solid-
    pointed star, which on a steeple
    stands for hope.

    –Marianne Moore, from “The Steeple-Jack”

  56. 56 mickNo Gravatar

    I live in England now.

  57. 57 naskingNo Gravatar

    Sometimes…it’s too easy…when the people are thirsty:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVTYiNYUPz4

  58. 58 naskingNo Gravatar

    when the dirt has only been swept under the carpet…& we like to believe…we’ve cleaned house:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzOk5itf98s

  59. 59 naskingNo Gravatar

    and there’s a bigger picture…don’t turn away…don’t be fooled…again.

    “Never stop fighting, til the fight is done!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61X4_RL3CU&mode=related&search=

    remember who…& what yer fighting for…wordsmiths…use yer words…like bullets.

    N’

  60. 60 naskingNo Gravatar

    know this movie:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvoOsWGuhlM

    (The Quiet American)

    who can you trust?

    gaze into the eyes…

    N’

  61. 61 naskingNo Gravatar

    Just a reminder:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4_6equEYKI&mode=related&search=

    (The Thing)

    How can we cross the bridge when we feel like this…?

  62. 62 naskingNo Gravatar

    or this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QOHGAxs_cU

    (The Descent)

    what is awakening in Howard World…again…?

  63. 63 naskingNo Gravatar

    sometimes we don’t understand the World we’ve been given…or born into…the cards dealt are not what we expected…but eventually we GROW…to ADAPT…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtxdBl4s6Wc&mode=related&search=

    go w/ the flow…

    the Journey

    but don’t jump into an early grave…reach out for THE LIGHT. And FIGHT for FREEDOM…and LIVE!…and LOVE!

    Take every moment, each gift you’ve been provided with…& explore it…moment by moment…dream by dream…friend by friend…look…into …THE LIGHT!

    It’s your friend, not your enemy.

    N’

  64. 64 naskingNo Gravatar

    and memories are made of sweet things…& yucky things…but in the long run…everyone, needs someone, to…i hear you say:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUVnfaA-kpI

    (Stand By Me)

  65. 65 naskingNo Gravatar

    and in this harsh old land of ours…a reminder…that dreams…become nightmares…can be beautiful songs…but realistically…think it thru before you introduce anything that will damage the environment…& give the pragmatic, the pained…& the bastards an opportunity to KILL, KILL, KILL:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MODq81_cDKI&mode=related&search=

    (Bright Eyes: Watership Down)

  66. 66 naskingNo Gravatar

    know you’re merely part of ‘The Dream’:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xepA0nH3LWg&mode=related&search=
    (Picnic At Hanging Rock)

    a state that John Howard…radio jocks…media Enablers…& his Neo-Con/Neo-Lib mates never quite got…in the tightness of their times…

    but some once knew…

    now remembering…during the AWAKENING…

    whilst…

    a legacy…is lost in the drift of…

  67. 67 naskingNo Gravatar

    When you forget the dreams…disrupt the natural order…use the core of a Country for political purposes…eventually, inevitably…the dream becomes a nightmare…in the search for its people:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdCkUu7FufY

    (The Last Wave)

  68. 68 naskingNo Gravatar

    “Don’t change the Earth, don’t change a thing for me”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSgV4WIykUY

    (Don’t Change: INXS)

  69. 69 naskingNo Gravatar

    Our UNIQUE land…

    what do they know?…the hungry ones?…the mechs, the dozers…?…

    but how to feed…

    the CHOSEN ONES…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mkidP2OUCk

    N’

  70. 70 naskingNo Gravatar

    No matter how warm it gets these days…the Australian people look upon each other in confusion…divided, hostile glares…inside the Ice house…

    I offer you FLOWERS

    to mourn…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c3i8×6XhO4

    or to change…the colour scheme…

    N’

  71. 71 naskingNo Gravatar

    It’s almost time:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG4wSs5OK0U

    didn’t you realise…i’m not drowning…

  72. 72 naskingNo Gravatar

    Strange days indeed:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO2CgjIRr9E&mode=related&search=

    (Act of Free Choice: David Bridie)

    sshhhoooshhh…in case THEY here…;)

  73. 73 naskingNo Gravatar

    Sorry Peter, I couldn’t help myself…but hey, we’re all allowed moments of passion…;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbfsd5piwEI&mode=related&search=

    (Midnight Oil: US Forces)

  74. 74 naskingNo Gravatar

    anyhow, i’m outa here…

    so i turn my head back for just one moment…think about friends & teams…& snow covered mountains…& ice rinks…& Harveys…& Rush…& bronzed leaves during Autumn…& Centre Island…& the Eaton’s Centre…& smoke on the water…& in the apartment…1901…& the lake…& my brother…& his wife…& nephew…

    feels like I’m leavin’ here too soon…

    but heck…i’m not really goin’ anywhere…luv this land…luv the memories meldin’…it’s all just a dream…

    over to…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzIkOHC0lEg

    (Sugar Mountain: Neil Young)

    &

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O6VxlMi69Q&mode=related&search=

    (Like A Hurricane: Neil Young)

  75. 75 Pick Up the Bags. Get In the Limousine.No Gravatar

    Mime
    Makes a man take things over.
    Mime
    Makes him loose and hard to follow.
    Mime
    Puts you there where things are hollow.
    Mime…

  76. 76 Greensborough GrowlerNo Gravatar

    Pick up the bags,
    Get in the limousine,
    And, smile, smile, smile……

    Old WW1 song.

  77. 77 He Rollercoaster. He Got Early Warning.No Gravatar

    Of all the strange coincidences, lately I’ve heard not one, but two, excellent cover versions of George Harrison’s marvelous “Within You Without You” — one on Patti Smith’s fine new compilation “Twelve,” and the other (and presumably older) rockin’ version by the great Sonic Youth, included as an extra on their splendid new deluxe re-release of “Daydream Nation.”

    Lawd, now does THAT bring back memories (speaking as I was of the Bad Old Days…) It’s a great record no matter how you slice it, but there’s a certain indelible edge of “ya had to be there” theater to it for me, that clouds my critical perception somewhat, one supposes. Still, it rocks; and, not unlike a hurricane, there’s calm in its eye. They’ve also included, as another bonus, a kick-ass live cover version of the Don Van Vliet classic “Electricity”. Run, don’t walk.

    Those were the days, like it or not (mostly not)…

    “Does ‘Fuck you’ sound simple enough?”
    – Kim Gordon

    “It’s time to get it
    Before you let it
    Get to you…”
    – Thurston Moore

    “I remember our youth, our high ideals.
    I remember you were _so_ uptight.”
    – Lee Ranaldo

    “There’s bum trash in my hall,
    And my place is ripped.
    I totalled another amp,
    I’m calling in sick.”

    Well that might as well be a page from my fucking autobiography.

    “You’re never gonna stop all the teenage leather and cooze…”

    Rock on.

  78. 78 NabakovNo Gravatar

    Oh for fuck’s sakes Nasking, I’m sure your heart’s in the right place but don’t you try occasionally when the blood rushes to your head, having a bex and a nice lie down?

    Great poem jpz. Heard bugger all about Marianne Moore until now. Will check out more of her. She really knows how to move words around inside your head.

    But like so many American poets, she does strike me as yearning a bit too hard after the transcedental that must be there somewhere lurking in the quotidian.

    Whereas Brit poets worthy of their heritage just go for it and let the daily bawdy lay where ever it may. Here’s a good example by one worthy on heat for the Jimi Hendrix of Anglo poetry. Kinda like Alvin Lee covering “Are You Experienced”.

    Lullaby for William Blake
    - Adrian Mitchell

    Blakehead, babyhead,
    Your head is full of light.
    You sucked the sun like a gobstopper.
    Blakehead, babyhead,
    High as a satellite on sunflower seeds,
    First man-powered man to fly the Atlantic,
    Inventor of the poem which kills itself,
    The poem which gives birth to itself,
    The human form, jazz, Jerusalem
    And other luminous, luminous galaxies.
    You out-spat your enemies.
    You irradiated your friends.
    Always naked, you shaven, shaking tyger-lamb,
    Moon-man, moon-clown, moon-singer, moon-drinker,
    You never killed anyone.
    Blakehead, babyhead,
    Accept this mug of crude red wine -
    I love you.

    Yes, not as studiedly and technically accomplished as Ms Moore but far more charged up and ultimately memorable (and vino veritased), ne c’est pas?

  79. 79 NabakovNo Gravatar

    Don Van Vliet classic “Electricity�.

    Raaauggghhhh! We’re working up a cover version of that right now. With double bass, lap steel and theremin to create a sorta country and western science fiction vibe.

    But I think Don’s all time great line was:

    “Send your mother home your navel.”

    The energy behind Walt Whitman’s entire ouvre summed up in one bluesly growl.

    Kinda reminds of Melbourne’s, if not Australia’s, ultimate tabloid “The Truth’” who once ran with a headline and newsagent screamer about a child molester who agreed to be be chemically castrated.
    “Castrate Me! Boy Sex Man!” - Bill Burroughs unwittingly distilled to his essence by a grimy Flinders St subbie.

  80. 80 Step On the Gas And Wipe That Tear AwayNo Gravatar

    Nabakov — yes indeed, A. Mitchell-sama’s Blake poem is quite a lovely thing. Thanks for posting it. Not enough people write in praise of Blake… although the playwright Paul Foster did, and the humorist Gerry Sussman (if I recall aright) did a beautiful piece in the 70s NatLamp, in which Blake had been deputized to escort the Marquis de Sade to an insane asylum, but naturally our good Donatien Alphonse took advantage of the situation to exchange places, without Bill Blake ever noticing the problem. Well, that was back when humor meant something to somebody.

    “But like so many American poets, she does strike me as yearning a bit too hard after the transcendental that must be there somewhere lurking in the quotidian.”

    Yes it’s a problem in yank poetry I’m sure; but then again, it’s one of those weird local tics that makes the language richer when it succeeds (Stevens, Whitman, Ashbery) and causes only forgettable problems and little harm when it fails (pages of illustrations). Though I suppose it’s true that too many young writers aspire to the Whitman of “Crossing Brooklyn Ferry” and “Song of My Self” while they forget the Whitman of “A noiseless patient spider” and the great “Cavalry crossing a ford.”

    As a local antidote to the too-grandiose-for-my-blood tradition of transcendence, here’s (one of my all-time favorites) the ending of Frank O’Hara’s great “For Grace, After a Party”:

    “Put out your hand,
    isn’t there
    an ashtray, suddenly there
    by the bed?
    And someone you love
    enters the room and says, Wouldn’t
    you like the eggs a little
    different today?
    And when they arrive they are
    just plain scrambled eggs and the warm weather
    is holding.”

  81. 81 MaySNo Gravatar

    Blake wrote:

    He who does not imagine in stronger and better lineaments, and in stronger and better light than his perishing mortal eye can see does not imagine at all. The painter of this work asserts that all his imaginations appear to him infinitely more perfect and more minutely organized than any thing seen by his mortal eye. Spirits are organized men.

    The lineage of “grandiosity” in literature is universal and dates back to Homeric poetry, the Hebrew religion and the Tao Te Ching, to name just a few greats.

    Give me Whitman’s “barbaric yawp”, Dickinson’s mystical joy and Emerson’s mind on fire any day rather than the far nourishment-free juvenile homages to Blake and derivative Ginsberg.

  82. 82 j_p_zNo Gravatar

    MayS: “The lineage of “grandiosityâ€? in literature is universal and dates back to Homeric poetry, the Hebrew religion and the Tao Te Ching…”

    Fair enough. Like a man said, The way that can be talked about is not the real way. But then again, if we were to exclude all conversation and chit-chat about it, it’s gonna get awfully boring.

    “derivative Ginsberg…”

    Well if ya think about it for a minute or two, pretty much all of Ginsberg is itself derivative, which leaves us with… well personally I prefer to skip Ginsberg most of the time, except for “My Sad Self,” “A Supermarket…,” a few good parts of “Kaddish,” and the part in “Howl” that goes “this really happened” (and it really did happen, so I heard…)

    I once had an amusing conversation with Ginsberg, out of the blue, that was all small-talk. Charming guy.

    My favorite criticism of his work (I think I may have posted this before) comes from a semi-legendary exchange at one of the first public readings of “Howl”…

    ALLEN GINSBERG: (intones) I saw the best minds of my generation…
    FRANK O’HARA: (scans the room, catty stage whisper) Who’s he *talking* about?

  83. 83 KatzNo Gravatar

    A friend of mine recently visited a friend in an Aboriginal settlement in the Northern Terrotory.

    My friend reported that the issue that is greatly exercising Aborigines is the little-publicised Federal Government ban on the importation of kava.

    Apparently, kava is viewed as a suitable substitute for the more dangerous and disruptive alcohol. Community leaders are concerned that many will return to drinking, with unfortunate effects.

    As far as I can see, this is the only reference to the issue in the newspapers. And in this Age article it is mentioned only in passing.

  84. 84 amphibiousNo Gravatar

    Love the wide range on this blog/site - sorry, new to this Net thingy, just got a steam driven 4th hand PC on dial up but..wow! If we’d had this in the 60s…
    Mark (not) B probably it’s but don’t imagine that Sydney isn’t riddled with underground tunnels.
    The MWSDB (now Sydney Water) used to run tours on some of the older tunnels and the dear old PMG, where i had my first job as a bicycle telegram (wot that?)boy has/had a huge network of RAIL beneath the city, can’t imagine that it has been filled in, tho’ who knows what modern bean counters think is rational.
    I often used to put my bike on at Martin Place (sic!)and trundle along to Canterbury post office (in 1962 the furthest extent)before putting the thighs to work.
    So yeh, probably shrub & shitface have asked for special arrangements but I can’t imagine them in those tunnels -they were only about 5mts wide and I can’t imagine they’ve been updated with a/c or similar.

  85. 85 amphibiousNo Gravatar

    KATZ - sorry, missed yours above when blathering to Mike(not)B. Kava was ruled a Prohibited Import under the Customs Act in 1989 but NEVER enforced in Sydney - go to any Indian spice store and you can get 200gms for a couple of bucks.
    It WAS however, stopped at Port Palmerston (as Darwin was called within Customs for obvious reasons)so nobody bothered to send it there, previously freely available, and it had to be shipped overland from Sydney or Melbourne which raised the price.
    As far as we could see, the AHA was ENTIRELY (with CLP backing - the NT gov at the time) behind the Commonwealth ban coz it meant the bungs weren’t drinking enough piss.
    Before Independence in Fiji, the uptight missionaries (the crazy amerikan methodists rather than the brits) succeeded in getting it banned (hah!)and all it did was increase the price (wotta surprise) in Suva and reduce the vitamin B12 intake of pregnant women who’d previously used it as a tonic. After Independence it was (rightly) consigned to the dustbin of colonial history.
    Anyone wondering about kava, it tastes like shit but is a wonderful aid to pleasant reverie and can be bnought in any Indian shop in Newtown (Sydney).

  86. 86 naskingNo Gravatar

    Oh for fuck’s sakes Nasking, I’m sure your heart’s in the right place but don’t you try occasionally when the blood rushes to your head, having a bex and a nice lie down?

    Nab…if your heart was in the right place you’d learn not to make such fatuous & pompous remarks.

    “Arrogance diminishes wisdom�

    let me focus on your mind for a mere second in trivial time and I shall find the crack in your veneer, and within the emboldening bereft of charity, scolded by love, polished by the impatience of your own tongue,
    urgent orb, blasting for another stage, drained of light and cause, merely ‘is’.

    Play on.

  87. 87 From the Secret Underground Lair of Fiasco da GamaNo Gravatar

    Nasking, I’d be careful if I were you. Nabakov might pull down his veneer and show you his crack, if you ask.

    Play on.

    The correct phrase is “game on”.
    Oh, and Leniad: your dream of cheap autonomous spy drones available to any supervillain is getting closer.

  88. 88 naskingNo Gravatar

    The correct phrase is “game on�.

    you be correct, i’ll do it my way…;)

  89. 89 Nabakov