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	<title>Comments on: More heat than light on Haneef: where&#039;s the transcripts then?</title>
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		<title>By: Peterc</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/02/more-heat-than-light-on-haneef-wheres-the-transcripts-then/#comment-84443</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shanahan confirms the Howard / Andrews position and tactics on Haneef: it was poll driven and did play in their favour - but not enough.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22200888-601,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;THE public has approved of the Howard Government&#039;s expulsion of Mohamed Haneef but has not given the Coalition a desperately needed political boost as parliament resumes.

On the question of the cancellation of Dr Haneef&#039;s visa, the strongest support for Mr Andrews&#039;s action was among Coalition supporters (70 per cent), older voters (53 per cent) and men (50 per cent).
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So what is right or wrong doesn&#039;t matter, nor does the separation of powers doctrine, nor does the Australian Constitution, nor does human rights.

The only thing that matters to team Howard is getting votes, by any means possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shanahan confirms the Howard / Andrews position and tactics on Haneef: it was poll driven and did play in their favour &#8211; but not enough.<br />
<a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22200888-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">[link]</a></p>
<blockquote><p>THE public has approved of the Howard Government&#8217;s expulsion of Mohamed Haneef but has not given the Coalition a desperately needed political boost as parliament resumes.</p>
<p>On the question of the cancellation of Dr Haneef&#8217;s visa, the strongest support for Mr Andrews&#8217;s action was among Coalition supporters (70 per cent), older voters (53 per cent) and men (50 per cent).
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<p>So what is right or wrong doesn&#8217;t matter, nor does the separation of powers doctrine, nor does the Australian Constitution, nor does human rights.</p>
<p>The only thing that matters to team Howard is getting votes, by any means possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re all rascals JG.

I have little time for any government. In case you haven&#039;t noticed, I&#039;m not a social democrat by any stretch of the imagination.

Howard has distinguished himself as a lying, canniving, obsequious, mendacious, hypocritical, dog-whistling, wedging rascal.

Howard has presided over a time when my net worth has vastly increased.

But enough is enough.

I wonder if it&#039;ll be as easy under Rudd. I&#039;m ready for new challenges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re all rascals JG.</p>
<p>I have little time for any government. In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, I&#8217;m not a social democrat by any stretch of the imagination.</p>
<p>Howard has distinguished himself as a lying, canniving, obsequious, mendacious, hypocritical, dog-whistling, wedging rascal.</p>
<p>Howard has presided over a time when my net worth has vastly increased.</p>
<p>But enough is enough.</p>
<p>I wonder if it&#8217;ll be as easy under Rudd. I&#8217;m ready for new challenges.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katz

&lt;blockquote&gt;How the wheels are falling off the Howard-beset Liberal Party.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed. Time to give the Rudd-led Liberal Party a go, hey what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katz</p>
<blockquote><p>How the wheels are falling off the Howard-beset Liberal Party.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed. Time to give the Rudd-led Liberal Party a go, hey what?</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Damaging our international reputation...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh gawd, are luvvies STILL pushing this garbage. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Damaging our international reputation&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh gawd, are luvvies STILL pushing this garbage. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God the Haneef saga how it does go on. I have never seen the transcripts of a trial by blog this must be kinda unique for L.P...Now I know this whole saga has been a cock up,and the coppers involved would probably serve the community better as lollipop wardens on a kiddies school crossing some where.And as for Andrews and co they are of course playing politics with this issue, and Lord Haw Haw Downer should be sacked for his comments to the media, not for what he said, but for coming across as an upper class petulant ponce.

Now I know like most lefty&#039;s of which I am one,  know we are bringing some of the terrorist shit storm down on our own heads, cause killing thousands of innocent Iraq women and children from 30000ft,  seems to make the victims a tad angry and they want a bit of pay back.However,having said all that, Haneef if found to have a connection to some terrorist organization responsible for killing people, should be tied to a chair and shot, or if preferred dropped through a trap door with a nice piece of hemp round his neck.I am just sorry that one of the other controversial figures of late didn&#039;t get the same treatment. Anyhoo if any of yous is a bit tender about dispatching these bastards, I will do it for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God the Haneef saga how it does go on. I have never seen the transcripts of a trial by blog this must be kinda unique for L.P&#8230;Now I know this whole saga has been a cock up,and the coppers involved would probably serve the community better as lollipop wardens on a kiddies school crossing some where.And as for Andrews and co they are of course playing politics with this issue, and Lord Haw Haw Downer should be sacked for his comments to the media, not for what he said, but for coming across as an upper class petulant ponce.</p>
<p>Now I know like most lefty&#8217;s of which I am one,  know we are bringing some of the terrorist shit storm down on our own heads, cause killing thousands of innocent Iraq women and children from 30000ft,  seems to make the victims a tad angry and they want a bit of pay back.However,having said all that, Haneef if found to have a connection to some terrorist organization responsible for killing people, should be tied to a chair and shot, or if preferred dropped through a trap door with a nice piece of hemp round his neck.I am just sorry that one of the other controversial figures of late didn&#8217;t get the same treatment. Anyhoo if any of yous is a bit tender about dispatching these bastards, I will do it for free.</p>
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		<title>By: casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heneef explains the chat - SMH today:

&quot;Dr Haneef said his brother, who was reading BBC reports of the car bombings while they were chatting, was referring to the fact that the media had not discovered his links with two of the suspects, Kafeel and Sabeel Ahmed. Dr Haneef had given his SIM card to Sabeel, a second cousin, when he left Britain in July last year.

&quot;[My brother] was just referring to the BBC website,&quot; Dr Haneef said. &quot;He had got information that there were some problems with my SIM card from Sabeel&#039;s mum. He was just reassuring me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heneef explains the chat &#8211; SMH today:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dr Haneef said his brother, who was reading BBC reports of the car bombings while they were chatting, was referring to the fact that the media had not discovered his links with two of the suspects, Kafeel and Sabeel Ahmed. Dr Haneef had given his SIM card to Sabeel, a second cousin, when he left Britain in July last year.</p>
<p>&#8220;[My brother] was just referring to the BBC website,&#8221; Dr Haneef said. &#8220;He had got information that there were some problems with my SIM card from Sabeel&#8217;s mum. He was just reassuring me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haneef&#039;s lawyer is back in town and keen to sue a few Government ministers over the bungling apparently so that should give them something to do after politics.  They can go back to where they started -  fighting other lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haneef&#8217;s lawyer is back in town and keen to sue a few Government ministers over the bungling apparently so that should give them something to do after politics.  They can go back to where they started &#8211;  fighting other lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The motivation for trying to phone the old bill has been satisfactorily explained from the start. Though conspiracy minded people here could think of another reason for the calls if they put their mind to it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For which SATP offers precisely no explanation, reference, quote, citation, link, or mad conspiracy theory.

Nice try mate, but really you&#039;re argument&#039;s about as solid as the gushing outflow from a pig processing factory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The motivation for trying to phone the old bill has been satisfactorily explained from the start. Though conspiracy minded people here could think of another reason for the calls if they put their mind to it.</p></blockquote>
<p>For which SATP offers precisely no explanation, reference, quote, citation, link, or mad conspiracy theory.</p>
<p>Nice try mate, but really you&#8217;re argument&#8217;s about as solid as the gushing outflow from a pig processing factory.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But you have done it yourself. You won’t be able to find anything to link me to any side of politics. Sometimes it is better to not open your mouth isn’t it? Hehehe….
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If that is an example of good english then I am surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But you have done it yourself. You won’t be able to find anything to link me to any side of politics. Sometimes it is better to not open your mouth isn’t it? Hehehe….
</p></blockquote>
<p>If that is an example of good english then I am surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blayney.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=national%20news&amp;subclass=general&amp;story_id=1032395&amp;category=General&amp;m=&amp;y=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;lackaday&lt;/a&gt;!

How the wheels are falling off the Howard-beset Liberal Party.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Former Liberal Party president John Valder, 75, has endorsed George Newhouse, Labor&#039;s candidate for the safe Liberal seat of Wentworth, in Sydney&#039;s eastern suburbs, News Limited reports.

Although a one time Liberal chieftain, Mr Valder has a long history of opposing the policies of the Howard government and was a leader of the &quot;Not Happy John&quot; campaign against Mr Howard at the 2004 election.

Mr Valder said in a letter to Wentworth constituents he had thrown his support behind the Waverley mayor as he was unhappy with the federal government, including how former terror suspect Dr Mohamed Haneef was treated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just how many unhappy campers are there in the Liberal Party these days?

How ironic it is that this revolt is the direct result of one of Mr Howard&#039;s patent wedges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, <a href="http://blayney.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=national%20news&amp;subclass=general&amp;story_id=1032395&amp;category=General&amp;m=&amp;y=" rel="nofollow">lackaday</a>!</p>
<p>How the wheels are falling off the Howard-beset Liberal Party.</p>
<blockquote><p>Former Liberal Party president John Valder, 75, has endorsed George Newhouse, Labor&#8217;s candidate for the safe Liberal seat of Wentworth, in Sydney&#8217;s eastern suburbs, News Limited reports.</p>
<p>Although a one time Liberal chieftain, Mr Valder has a long history of opposing the policies of the Howard government and was a leader of the &#8220;Not Happy John&#8221; campaign against Mr Howard at the 2004 election.</p>
<p>Mr Valder said in a letter to Wentworth constituents he had thrown his support behind the Waverley mayor as he was unhappy with the federal government, including how former terror suspect Dr Mohamed Haneef was treated.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just how many unhappy campers are there in the Liberal Party these days?</p>
<p>How ironic it is that this revolt is the direct result of one of Mr Howard&#8217;s patent wedges.</p>
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