<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Federal hospital intervention &#8211; costly and counterproductive</title>
	<atom:link href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/</link>
	<description>Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:11:31 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mersey Hospital at the mercy of the Libs? &#171; Ocean of Noise</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83277</link>
		<dc:creator>Mersey Hospital at the mercy of the Libs? &#171; Ocean of Noise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83277</guid>
		<description>[...] pros/cons of such a move. John Quiggin described it as &#8216;federalism at its worse&#8217;, while Robert Merkel at Larvatus Prodeo said that the move was not only counter-productive but also a waste of money. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pros/cons of such a move. John Quiggin described it as &#8216;federalism at its worse&#8217;, while Robert Merkel at Larvatus Prodeo said that the move was not only counter-productive but also a waste of money. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: PAB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83276</link>
		<dc:creator>PAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83276</guid>
		<description>Steve at the pub said &quot;PAB, it doesn’t matter how it looks in north-west Tas, this is politics, it only matters how voters in the rest of the country see it&quot;.

Sorry, SATP. I&#039;m not convinced. I understand your point about this intervention highlighting the states&#039; failures on health. But I think the blatant nature of it will swamp any such subtle points. The obvious question is, why wasn&#039;t the money spent somewhere that needs a good hospital instead of on a hospital that is barely viable in an already well serviced area? Why wasn&#039;t it spent on your Logan hospital for example?

I think that within the electorate of Braddon this intervention will cost Howard as many votes as he will gain from it. And I think that outside Braddon it makes him look like a spend-thrift opportunist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve at the pub said &#8220;PAB, it doesn’t matter how it looks in north-west Tas, this is politics, it only matters how voters in the rest of the country see it&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sorry, SATP. I&#8217;m not convinced. I understand your point about this intervention highlighting the states&#8217; failures on health. But I think the blatant nature of it will swamp any such subtle points. The obvious question is, why wasn&#8217;t the money spent somewhere that needs a good hospital instead of on a hospital that is barely viable in an already well serviced area? Why wasn&#8217;t it spent on your Logan hospital for example?</p>
<p>I think that within the electorate of Braddon this intervention will cost Howard as many votes as he will gain from it. And I think that outside Braddon it makes him look like a spend-thrift opportunist.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83275</link>
		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83275</guid>
		<description>Peter Kemp,  I am not saying the Tasmanian intervention is going to deliver better health care, or anything of the sort.

It is purely politics, &amp; possibly quite cunning politics.  To think otherwise would be erronous.

It would be a bold move by the opposition to think that this cannot be worked into an issue which will strike a chord with, and possibly change the vote of, a lot of people nationwide who would otherwise vote for the opposition.

We have a few here who are as to politics as the Joker is to Batman, laughing hysterically at everything the govt does as they see it &quot;stuffing up&quot;.

The public need not see it that way, for not everybody sees things through the bottom of the &quot;ALP-all-the-way&quot; Schooner glass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Kemp,  I am not saying the Tasmanian intervention is going to deliver better health care, or anything of the sort.</p>
<p>It is purely politics, &amp; possibly quite cunning politics.  To think otherwise would be erronous.</p>
<p>It would be a bold move by the opposition to think that this cannot be worked into an issue which will strike a chord with, and possibly change the vote of, a lot of people nationwide who would otherwise vote for the opposition.</p>
<p>We have a few here who are as to politics as the Joker is to Batman, laughing hysterically at everything the govt does as they see it &#8220;stuffing up&#8221;.</p>
<p>The public need not see it that way, for not everybody sees things through the bottom of the &#8220;ALP-all-the-way&#8221; Schooner glass.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Florence Nightingale- the Lady with a Lamp</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83274</link>
		<dc:creator>Florence Nightingale- the Lady with a Lamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83274</guid>
		<description>John Howard&#039;s lamp is a Molotov cocktail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Howard&#8217;s lamp is a Molotov cocktail.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83273</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83273</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;PAB, it doesn’t matter how it looks in north-west Tas, this is politics, it only matters how voters in the rest of the country see it&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It absolutely sinks to the rest of the country SATP.   Everyone would like better hospital services but this is not a sane way to provide them.  Fortunately, not long now to the election where we can wave them goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>PAB, it doesn’t matter how it looks in north-west Tas, this is politics, it only matters how voters in the rest of the country see it</p></blockquote>
<p>It absolutely sinks to the rest of the country SATP.   Everyone would like better hospital services but this is not a sane way to provide them.  Fortunately, not long now to the election where we can wave them goodbye.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Peter Kemp</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83272</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83272</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Katz, Lefty E &amp; others who make trite of people dying: God help you, you soulless bastards!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh deary me, the ad hominem when the Howardista arguments go belly up.

Shorter SATP: John Howard and I have put on our Florence Nightingale badges. Those who mock are &lt;strong&gt;soul-less (presumably  atheistic) bastards going to hell.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Katz, Lefty E &amp; others who make trite of people dying: God help you, you soulless bastards!</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh deary me, the ad hominem when the Howardista arguments go belly up.</p>
<p>Shorter SATP: John Howard and I have put on our Florence Nightingale badges. Those who mock are <strong>soul-less (presumably  atheistic) bastards going to hell.</strong></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83271</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83271</guid>
		<description>PS how&#039;s the government&#039;s form.

When interest rates are low, they take the credit.

When they&#039;re high, its someone else&#039;s fault!


Bwaahahaaa. They&#039;re rooted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS how&#8217;s the government&#8217;s form.</p>
<p>When interest rates are low, they take the credit.</p>
<p>When they&#8217;re high, its someone else&#8217;s fault!</p>
<p>Bwaahahaaa. They&#8217;re rooted.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83270</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83270</guid>
		<description>Tell it to Howard SATP.

The public health billions going down the toilet on private health insurance subsidy (you know, that 30% that was completely wasted by being progressively eaten up by premium rises, since the funds knew we could afford it) might have been used better elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell it to Howard SATP.</p>
<p>The public health billions going down the toilet on private health insurance subsidy (you know, that 30% that was completely wasted by being progressively eaten up by premium rises, since the funds knew we could afford it) might have been used better elsewhere.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83269</link>
		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83269</guid>
		<description>PAB, it doesn&#039;t matter how it looks in north-west Tas, this is politics, it only matters how voters in the rest of the country see it.  Especially when there are events (and it only needs one or two of them) like a woman dying in the hallway of Logan hospital after waiting several hours and still not being admitted.

Katz, Lefty E &amp; others who make trite of people dying:  God help you, you soulless bastards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PAB, it doesn&#8217;t matter how it looks in north-west Tas, this is politics, it only matters how voters in the rest of the country see it.  Especially when there are events (and it only needs one or two of them) like a woman dying in the hallway of Logan hospital after waiting several hours and still not being admitted.</p>
<p>Katz, Lefty E &amp; others who make trite of people dying:  God help you, you soulless bastards!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: PAB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83268</link>
		<dc:creator>PAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/03/federal-hospital-intervention-costly-and-counterproductive/#comment-83268</guid>
		<description>&quot;Steve at the Pub&quot; makes a good general point about people and that they will change their votes over health matters. However, on this specific issue I think he is wrong in saying the feds have &quot;trumped the states&quot;.

I know the Northwest of Tasmania well. Hospitals up there have been a nightmare for politicians for decades. John Howard is playing with fire by interfering. In fact I think that even within the electorate of Braddon, this intervention will cost more votes than it will gain. Here&#039;s why.

Northwest Tasmania has a large and well regarded hospital already. It&#039;s located 30 minutes from Devonport in Burnie, the second largest (but more centrally located) city on the coast (and also within the electorate of Braddon). Boosting the Devonport hospital threatens the viability of the Burnie hospital. There&#039;s not enough doctors, nurses and &lt;b&gt;patients&lt;/b&gt; to justify two major hospitals so close to each other. There is already a call from a member of Tasmania&#039;s upper house for money saved on the northwest as a result of John Howard&#039;s largesse to be redirected to other hospitals in the state. Unless John Howard is going to save the Burnie hospital as well, its future must be in doubt. I suspect any votes John Howard gains in Devonport will be lost in Burnie.

Finally, there is the big hit that Howard&#039;s financial credibility has taken. This is such a blatant attempt to buy votes with absolutely no regard for good policy. As the headline said - costly and counterproductive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Steve at the Pub&#8221; makes a good general point about people and that they will change their votes over health matters. However, on this specific issue I think he is wrong in saying the feds have &#8220;trumped the states&#8221;.</p>
<p>I know the Northwest of Tasmania well. Hospitals up there have been a nightmare for politicians for decades. John Howard is playing with fire by interfering. In fact I think that even within the electorate of Braddon, this intervention will cost more votes than it will gain. Here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>Northwest Tasmania has a large and well regarded hospital already. It&#8217;s located 30 minutes from Devonport in Burnie, the second largest (but more centrally located) city on the coast (and also within the electorate of Braddon). Boosting the Devonport hospital threatens the viability of the Burnie hospital. There&#8217;s not enough doctors, nurses and <b>patients</b> to justify two major hospitals so close to each other. There is already a call from a member of Tasmania&#8217;s upper house for money saved on the northwest as a result of John Howard&#8217;s largesse to be redirected to other hospitals in the state. Unless John Howard is going to save the Burnie hospital as well, its future must be in doubt. I suspect any votes John Howard gains in Devonport will be lost in Burnie.</p>
<p>Finally, there is the big hit that Howard&#8217;s financial credibility has taken. This is such a blatant attempt to buy votes with absolutely no regard for good policy. As the headline said &#8211; costly and counterproductive.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

