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	<title>Comments on: Dorothy Dix 2.0? Howard&#8217;s online media play</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/</link>
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		<title>By: gandhi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390913</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390913</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hawkie called everyone mate&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well, that explains why he never returned my calls! 
:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hawkie called everyone mate</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that explains why he never returned my calls!<br />
 <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390695</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390695</guid>
		<description>Hawkie called everyone mate, I think, gandhi. I met him once and the force of his personality combined with his small stature and very large cigar was quite overwhelming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawkie called everyone mate, I think, gandhi. I met him once and the force of his personality combined with his small stature and very large cigar was quite overwhelming.</p>
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		<title>By: gandhi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390677</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390677</guid>
		<description>Say what you like about Keating, at least he had a sense of humour. So did Hawke, who I met once at a press club dinner in Canberra - the experience was totally unlike bumping into Howard. Hawke even called me "mate"! (sob)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you like about Keating, at least he had a sense of humour. So did Hawke, who I met once at a press club dinner in Canberra - the experience was totally unlike bumping into Howard. Hawke even called me &#8220;mate&#8221;! (sob)</p>
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		<title>By: TheGoodOil</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390662</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGoodOil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390662</guid>
		<description>Re: Link's above "best way to ‘throw’ an evil entity is to say something unexepectedly banal" ... 

I once found myself momentarily in Paul Keating's immediate orbit, during the time of Hewson. I had one shot, I asked him what his first car was.

For a nanosecond he was ever so slightly thrown, enough for me to slip him my spirex notebook open at a blank page, no pen. I suggested a marque that was plausible for a young manager of a rock and roll band of his time, and he said "Yes it was" 

Cufflinks twinkled in the sun, exquisite Zegna lining flashed briefly as he reached  for the Mont Blanc in the inner breast pocket, and he said:

"What's your name?" in a tone I can only describe as good-natured contempt, and I told him, and he said "You'd be a celt, wouldn't ya", ( pronounced with a hard c, and a pronounced t) and I said "Has Skippy got ticks?" and he laughed, and it was good. 

Reminds me: must go and dig out said spirex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Link&#8217;s above &#8220;best way to ‘throw’ an evil entity is to say something unexepectedly banal&#8221; &#8230; </p>
<p>I once found myself momentarily in Paul Keating&#8217;s immediate orbit, during the time of Hewson. I had one shot, I asked him what his first car was.</p>
<p>For a nanosecond he was ever so slightly thrown, enough for me to slip him my spirex notebook open at a blank page, no pen. I suggested a marque that was plausible for a young manager of a rock and roll band of his time, and he said &#8220;Yes it was&#8221; </p>
<p>Cufflinks twinkled in the sun, exquisite Zegna lining flashed briefly as he reached  for the Mont Blanc in the inner breast pocket, and he said:</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s your name?&#8221; in a tone I can only describe as good-natured contempt, and I told him, and he said &#8220;You&#8217;d be a celt, wouldn&#8217;t ya&#8221;, ( pronounced with a hard c, and a pronounced t) and I said &#8220;Has Skippy got ticks?&#8221; and he laughed, and it was good. </p>
<p>Reminds me: must go and dig out said spirex.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390652</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390652</guid>
		<description>Sai Gon, the question you're answering is "Do you have a question for the Prime Minister?"  Yeah, it's silly to have an answer that's itself a question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sai Gon, the question you&#8217;re answering is &#8220;Do you have a question for the Prime Minister?&#8221;  Yeah, it&#8217;s silly to have an answer that&#8217;s itself a question.</p>
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		<title>By: gandhi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390633</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390633</guid>
		<description>Although anecdotes of his childhood days do not support it, I cannot help but thinking of Howard as the little runt in the schoolyard who was so scared of the big kids that he set himself up as a bully, with his own gang of minders constantly at his shoulder. 

He seems to have been living with fear throughout his life, as his constantly trembling, saliva-soaked bottom lip attests. Whenever someone challenges him, or puts inconvenient facts in his face, his eyes get big behind the bifocals and you really sense that he might burst into tears at any moment if we all don't just let him have his way. 

A sad little man who was never suited to the cameras, and certainly has no future in the online video industry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although anecdotes of his childhood days do not support it, I cannot help but thinking of Howard as the little runt in the schoolyard who was so scared of the big kids that he set himself up as a bully, with his own gang of minders constantly at his shoulder. </p>
<p>He seems to have been living with fear throughout his life, as his constantly trembling, saliva-soaked bottom lip attests. Whenever someone challenges him, or puts inconvenient facts in his face, his eyes get big behind the bifocals and you really sense that he might burst into tears at any moment if we all don&#8217;t just let him have his way. </p>
<p>A sad little man who was never suited to the cameras, and certainly has no future in the online video industry!</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390527</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390527</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;His eyes were fearful and darting, but his body language was desperately trying to convey his sense of self-importance. It was sad, in a deeply disconcerting kind of way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's a brilliant description of what he looks like all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>His eyes were fearful and darting, but his body language was desperately trying to convey his sense of self-importance. It was sad, in a deeply disconcerting kind of way.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a brilliant description of what he looks like all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390501</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390501</guid>
		<description>A very perceptive analysis, Ken.</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Lovell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390497</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390497</guid>
		<description>Gandhi you prompted me &lt;a href="http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/08/06/politicians-and-emotional-labour/" rel="nofollow"&gt;to wax lyrical&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gandhi you prompted me <a href="http://kenalovell.com/blog/2007/08/06/politicians-and-emotional-labour/" rel="nofollow">to wax lyrical</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ptobias</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390493</link>
		<dc:creator>Ptobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390493</guid>
		<description>It's as if Howard is creating his own idealised version of the YouTube Debate - where he picks which questions he answers, doesn't have Kevin Rudd or anyone else critiquing his responses, and can ignore anyone who raises a legitimate issue. And from the sound of it, the end result is going to be the same as his previous online adventures - a one-way conversation where the stuffy old (dishonest) man spins some bullshit and then sticks it online to show how he's embracing the future.

But just as the YouTube comments become something out of Howard's control, I think this Yahoo Answers thing has the potential to get away from him as well. All of the questions he has been asked are available to see - if he chooses simple ones and ignores the insightful questions, he can be called up on it by the media and the bloggers.

In the run-up to the election it'll be interesting to see whether Howard manages to get his head around the fact that by taking his message online, he is going into an environment where others have an equal voice but with greater numbers to shout down his weasel words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s as if Howard is creating his own idealised version of the YouTube Debate - where he picks which questions he answers, doesn&#8217;t have Kevin Rudd or anyone else critiquing his responses, and can ignore anyone who raises a legitimate issue. And from the sound of it, the end result is going to be the same as his previous online adventures - a one-way conversation where the stuffy old (dishonest) man spins some bullshit and then sticks it online to show how he&#8217;s embracing the future.</p>
<p>But just as the YouTube comments become something out of Howard&#8217;s control, I think this Yahoo Answers thing has the potential to get away from him as well. All of the questions he has been asked are available to see - if he chooses simple ones and ignores the insightful questions, he can be called up on it by the media and the bloggers.</p>
<p>In the run-up to the election it&#8217;ll be interesting to see whether Howard manages to get his head around the fact that by taking his message online, he is going into an environment where others have an equal voice but with greater numbers to shout down his weasel words.</p>
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		<title>By: gandhi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390485</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390485</guid>
		<description>Suz, I like your story about shouting at Howard. Could be a whole thread in it!?

In my case, he came to do a radio interview in a building where I worked. I considered a variety of options, including blockading the street with my car just to delay his next appointment. But then, strangely, when I suddenly saw him coming down the corridor, I just stared and said nothing. 

What stopped me in my tracks was the crazy look in his eyes: it was kind of pathetic.  Shouting at him would have felt like harrassing a mentally ill person. His eyes were fearful and darting, but his body language was desperately trying to convey his sense of self-importance.  It was sad, in a deeply disconcerting kind of way.

Afterwards I wondered why I didn't say anything, and I realised that making a point to Howard himself (again, there was nobody else but some bodyguards) would have been of minimal importance, because Howard himself is not really the problem. It's the people who put him there, the system which kept him there, the people who voted for him time and again.  They are the ones we should be shouting at. 

The best punishment for Howard (assuming he is not going to The Hague) would be if everyone just wrote him off as a miserable failure, yesterday's man, a whiny little shit who took the country nowhere.  And just ignored him and forgot about him and moved on to better things.

I see Warwick Capper is now doing his own porno flicks - I wonder what desperate measures a post-PM Howard might not stoop to in order to get attention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suz, I like your story about shouting at Howard. Could be a whole thread in it!?</p>
<p>In my case, he came to do a radio interview in a building where I worked. I considered a variety of options, including blockading the street with my car just to delay his next appointment. But then, strangely, when I suddenly saw him coming down the corridor, I just stared and said nothing. </p>
<p>What stopped me in my tracks was the crazy look in his eyes: it was kind of pathetic.  Shouting at him would have felt like harrassing a mentally ill person. His eyes were fearful and darting, but his body language was desperately trying to convey his sense of self-importance.  It was sad, in a deeply disconcerting kind of way.</p>
<p>Afterwards I wondered why I didn&#8217;t say anything, and I realised that making a point to Howard himself (again, there was nobody else but some bodyguards) would have been of minimal importance, because Howard himself is not really the problem. It&#8217;s the people who put him there, the system which kept him there, the people who voted for him time and again.  They are the ones we should be shouting at. </p>
<p>The best punishment for Howard (assuming he is not going to The Hague) would be if everyone just wrote him off as a miserable failure, yesterday&#8217;s man, a whiny little shit who took the country nowhere.  And just ignored him and forgot about him and moved on to better things.</p>
<p>I see Warwick Capper is now doing his own porno flicks - I wonder what desperate measures a post-PM Howard might not stoop to in order to get attention?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390448</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 09:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390448</guid>
		<description>Lomandra, I think it's parodying a part of the sixth series not yet shown here in Oz, so I'm reluctant to go into spoiler land. But really, you should go to the dvd store and rent all five series so far just for your own enjoyment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lomandra, I think it&#8217;s parodying a part of the sixth series not yet shown here in Oz, so I&#8217;m reluctant to go into spoiler land. But really, you should go to the dvd store and rent all five series so far just for your own enjoyment!</p>
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		<title>By: phil@VVB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390447</link>
		<dc:creator>phil@VVB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 09:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390447</guid>
		<description>Greg@4.37: Mine would be "when are you going to stop lying to the Australian people?" (based on the oldie "when did you stop beating your wife", etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:Greg@4.37">Greg@4.37</a>: Mine would be &#8220;when are you going to stop lying to the Australian people?&#8221; (based on the oldie &#8220;when did you stop beating your wife&#8221;, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Lomandra</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390440</link>
		<dc:creator>Lomandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only five questions? Sheesh, I guess there's no point asking him if he's worried that one of his &lt;strike&gt;Death Eaters&lt;/strike&gt; Ministers is going to knife him, then.

Incidentally, seeing as I'm one of the few people in the cosmos who hasn't seen The Sopranos, could some kind soul please explain in what way the Bill and Hillary YouTube video is a Soprano's parody? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only five questions? Sheesh, I guess there&#8217;s no point asking him if he&#8217;s worried that one of his <strike>Death Eaters</strike> Ministers is going to knife him, then.</p>
<p>Incidentally, seeing as I&#8217;m one of the few people in the cosmos who hasn&#8217;t seen The Sopranos, could some kind soul please explain in what way the Bill and Hillary YouTube video is a Soprano&#8217;s parody? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390439</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390439</guid>
		<description>If anything you'd think it would piss off people who aren't political hacks who've genuinely gone to the time and effort of posing questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything you&#8217;d think it would piss off people who aren&#8217;t political hacks who&#8217;ve genuinely gone to the time and effort of posing questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390438</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390438</guid>
		<description>Exactly five questions, according to the SMH, out of god knows how many. Since most of them are going to end up ignored, I doubt it's going to gain Howard many votes. Mark is absolutely right: it's to impress the press gallery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly five questions, according to the SMH, out of god knows how many. Since most of them are going to end up ignored, I doubt it&#8217;s going to gain Howard many votes. Mark is absolutely right: it&#8217;s to impress the press gallery.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390428</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390428</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Down and Out, I agree - where are the answers to the questions? maybe the questioner gets a private email in response.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As indicated in the linked SMH story, suz, questions will be selected and he will "answer" them later this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Down and Out, I agree - where are the answers to the questions? maybe the questioner gets a private email in response.</p></blockquote>
<p>As indicated in the linked SMH story, suz, questions will be selected and he will &#8220;answer&#8221; them later this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Link</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390426</link>
		<dc:creator>Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390426</guid>
		<description>That's funny su.  Funny that the ossifer told you that the little man (being hard of hearing an all) didn't hear you.  I've heard it said that the best way to 'throw' an evil entity is to say something unexepectedly banal. In Howard's case.  "Gosh.  I had no idea you were so short."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny su.  Funny that the ossifer told you that the little man (being hard of hearing an all) didn&#8217;t hear you.  I&#8217;ve heard it said that the best way to &#8216;throw&#8217; an evil entity is to say something unexepectedly banal. In Howard&#8217;s case.  &#8220;Gosh.  I had no idea you were so short.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390422</link>
		<dc:creator>suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390422</guid>
		<description>Down and Out, I agree - where are the answers to the questions? maybe the questioner gets a private email in response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Down and Out, I agree - where are the answers to the questions? maybe the questioner gets a private email in response.</p>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/06/dorothy-dix-20-howards-online-media-play/#comment-390421</link>
		<dc:creator>suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This immediately brought to mind a recent incident in which I accidentally crossed paths with Howard in Tasmania. He was expected at a fundraising dinner next door to our hotel. I had 10 minutes on the footpath to figure out whether to shout at him when he arrived. (There was no one around except police and an ABC camera crew). Of course whatever I said would have no impact on him at all but if I could contribute just a few seconds of momentum to surrounding him with a sense of anger and protest, why not? I considered saying something about Tasmanian forests, then same-sex marriage, then decided to go with: "Get Australian troops out of Iraq". I managed to shout it twice in the time it took for him to sweep from the passenger seat straight in the door. 
An officer said to me, "I don't think he heard you". Which probably sums up the You Tube questions site too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This immediately brought to mind a recent incident in which I accidentally crossed paths with Howard in Tasmania. He was expected at a fundraising dinner next door to our hotel. I had 10 minutes on the footpath to figure out whether to shout at him when he arrived. (There was no one around except police and an ABC camera crew). Of course whatever I said would have no impact on him at all but if I could contribute just a few seconds of momentum to surrounding him with a sense of anger and protest, why not? I considered saying something about Tasmanian forests, then same-sex marriage, then decided to go with: &#8220;Get Australian troops out of Iraq&#8221;. I managed to shout it twice in the time it took for him to sweep from the passenger seat straight in the door.<br />
An officer said to me, &#8220;I don&#8217;t think he heard you&#8221;. Which probably sums up the You Tube questions site too.</p>
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