Comments on: Talking blogging on Radio National http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:53:32 +0000 hourly 1 By: Frank Calabrese http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-392475 Frank Calabrese Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:01:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-392475 <a href="http://abc.net.au/nightlife/" rel="nofollow">Coming up on Tony Delroy's Nightlife. <blockquote>Wednesday August 15 The battle for the Blogosphere in politics</blockquote> It will be on between 10-11pm EST (8-9pm WST) & 30 minutes earliear in South australia, plus I think there will be some talkback as well.</a> Coming up on Tony Delroy’s Nightlife.

Wednesday August 15 The battle for the Blogosphere in politics

It will be on between 10-11pm EST (8-9pm WST) & 30 minutes earliear in South australia, plus I think there will be some talkback as well.

]]> By: Helen http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-392198 Helen Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:46:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-392198 Sorry, did not close italics tag: First sentence belongs to Derek. Sorry, did not close italics tag: First sentence belongs to Derek.

]]> By: Helen http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-392197 Helen Sun, 12 Aug 2007 20:45:20 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-392197 The time is coming soon where the only difference between journalists and bloggers will be the “brand� under which they write.

Blogging … is… not… journalism.
Political blogging is very close to oped, but a lot of blogging is creative writing, nothing to do with journalism at all.

]]> By: Derek http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-392165 Derek Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:18:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-392165 Just listened to the podcast. I'm thinking that an artificial boundary seems to exist between MSM and blogs. While MSM commentators (Doogue included) still step around blogs and bloggers as if they were media interlopers without journalistic credibility and objectivity, bloggers themselves are not helping by accentuating the differences between themselves and their paid counterparts. Sure, bloggers don't regularly break stories but then again neither do most paid journalists. A quick look at a metropolitan newspaper or TV news shows that most stories are either imported from other agencies, or developed upon already existing themes. Journalists and bloggers alike use these techniques. What makes the article worth reading is the quality of the writing and the original research behind it, regardless of the media. What blogging has added to the traditional form of expression is freedom from a sometimes stultifying objectivity and the ability to add user comment to the story. While the Australian may whinge about bloggers, most of their on-line op-ed journalists are moving towards this model anyway. The time is coming soon where the only difference between journalists and bloggers will be the "brand" under which they write. Maybe then the arguments can move on to the more interesting questions of the message not the media. Just listened to the podcast.

I’m thinking that an artificial boundary seems to exist between MSM and blogs. While MSM commentators (Doogue included) still step around blogs and bloggers as if they were media interlopers without journalistic credibility and objectivity, bloggers themselves are not helping by accentuating the differences between themselves and their paid counterparts.

Sure, bloggers don’t regularly break stories but then again neither do most paid journalists. A quick look at a metropolitan newspaper or TV news shows that most stories are either imported from other agencies, or developed upon already existing themes. Journalists and bloggers alike use these techniques. What makes the article worth reading is the quality of the writing and the original research behind it, regardless of the media.

What blogging has added to the traditional form of expression is freedom from a sometimes stultifying objectivity and the ability to add user comment to the story. While the Australian may whinge about bloggers, most of their on-line op-ed journalists are moving towards this model anyway. The time is coming soon where the only difference between journalists and bloggers will be the “brand” under which they write.

Maybe then the arguments can move on to the more interesting questions of the message not the media.

]]> By: Ambigulous http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-392108 Ambigulous Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:11:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-392108 Heard it by accident. Good to put a voice to an author, Mark. Pity it was so brief. Having found Lavartus and Club Troppo belatedly by googlewander, it was pleasant to hear you both. But Geraldine didn't ask you to translate 'lavartus prodeo'. I've lost my Latin dictionary... amo amas amat (surely not something about prodding a lavatory?...) Ambigulous Heard it by accident. Good to put a voice to an author, Mark.
Pity it was so brief. Having found Lavartus and Club Troppo belatedly by googlewander, it was pleasant to hear you both.

But Geraldine didn’t ask you to translate ‘lavartus prodeo’.
I’ve lost my Latin dictionary…
amo
amas
amat

(surely not something about prodding a lavatory?…)

Ambigulous

]]> By: Graham Bell http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-392082 Graham Bell Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:35:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-392082 Mark: Heard it. Excellent. Mark:
Heard it. Excellent.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-392003 Mark Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:21:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-392003 Thanks, joe2 and Brian. Thanks, joe2 and Brian.

]]> By: Brian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391999 Brian Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:07:44 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391999 Yes, it came up well. The podcast is <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/saturdayextra/stories/2007/2002213.htm" rel="nofollow">available here.</a> Funny, I did a comment here this morning and it vanished into a black hole! Yes, it came up well.

The podcast is available here.

Funny, I did a comment here this morning and it vanished into a black hole!

]]> By: joe2 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391960 joe2 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:44:11 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391960 "Nice work and you didn’t scare the nice cardigan wearing Radio National audience which is always a good thing" Fair go Phil, I don't have me egg stained cardy on at that time on a Saturdy mornin. Rather, the nifty monogrammed pj ensemble. Well done Mark. The march goes on for blogging recognition despite the older media scaredy pants. “Nice work and you didn’t scare the nice cardigan wearing Radio National audience which is always a good thing”

Fair go Phil, I don’t have me egg stained cardy on at that time on a Saturdy mornin. Rather, the nifty monogrammed pj ensemble. Well done Mark. The march goes on for blogging recognition despite the older media scaredy pants.

]]> By: Jacques Chester http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391929 Jacques Chester Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:21:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391929 Just a note, they misspelled Larvatus Prodeo. Which is OK. I should make a mint setting up typo domains, syndicating the LP RSS feeds, and selling adsense space. Just a note, they misspelled Larvatus Prodeo.

Which is OK. I should make a mint setting up typo domains, syndicating the LP RSS feeds, and selling adsense space.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391928 Mark Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:05:51 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391928 Thanks, Phil. That's always the problem with doing radio interviews - very tight time constraints. You can see why pollies speak in soundbites! Thanks, Phil. That’s always the problem with doing radio interviews – very tight time constraints. You can see why pollies speak in soundbites!

]]> By: Phil http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391927 Phil Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:02:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391927 Well that was all right, too bad about time constraints, important in bringing blogging to another audience though. Nice work and you didn't scare the nice cardigan wearing Radio National audience which is always a good thing. Well that was all right, too bad about time constraints, important in bringing blogging to another audience though. Nice work and you didn’t scare the nice cardigan wearing Radio National audience which is always a good thing.

]]> By: sublime cowgirl http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391892 sublime cowgirl Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:50:29 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391892 y'all be great!! y’all be great!!

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391884 Mark Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:07:09 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391884 Not sure, Shaun, sorry. joe2, I don't know if I'd have done it if it'd been 7 30 am. I'm not a morning person at all! Not sure, Shaun, sorry.

joe2, I don’t know if I’d have done it if it’d been 7 30 am. I’m not a morning person at all!

]]> By: joe2 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391882 joe2 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:46:45 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391882 Blessings, Mark. Blessings, Mark.

]]> By: Shaun http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391881 Shaun Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:44:57 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391881 Good stuff. I'll have the catch the podcast Mark. Any idea on how long after airing the mp3s go up? Good stuff. I’ll have the catch the podcast Mark. Any idea on how long after airing the mp3s go up?

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391877 Mark Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:26:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391877 It's on in the 8 30 hour, joe2, so enjoy the extra hour's sleep! It’s on in the 8 30 hour, joe2, so enjoy the extra hour’s sleep!

]]> By: joe2 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391872 joe2 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:59:14 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391872 Alarm set for 7.30. E.S.T. Good luck and 'break a leg', Mark. I just hope Doogie has time to fit it all in, what with people, likely, jumping off high buildings in Wall St, for instance. Alarm set for 7.30. E.S.T.
Good luck and ‘break a leg’, Mark.

I just hope Doogie has time to fit it all in, what with people, likely, jumping off high buildings in Wall St, for instance.

]]> By: jinmaro http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391842 jinmaro Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:42:24 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391842 me too. To hear Mark's voice. Voices soar. me too. To hear Mark’s voice. Voices soar.

]]> By: tigtog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/comment-page-1/#comment-391840 tigtog Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:40:57 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/10/talking-blogging-on-radio-national/#comment-391840 Me too! Me too!

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