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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.
I *have* done writing on a laptop at the Toxteth Hotel, CK. Surprisingly pleasant on a warm day in the courtyard, especially now there&#039;s shadecloth up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.<br />
I *have* done writing on a laptop at the Toxteth Hotel, CK. Surprisingly pleasant on a warm day in the courtyard, especially now there&#8217;s shadecloth up.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine Keeler

In your Manichean straightjacket you completely misunderstand half the world. I have made it clear that I do not agree with Sheehan.

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/27/sheehan-hacks-into-sbs/#comment-396869</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine Keeler</p>
<p>In your Manichean straightjacket you completely misunderstand half the world. I have made it clear that I do not agree with Sheehan.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Keeler</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/27/sheehan-hacks-into-sbs/#comment-78101</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Sheehan is, in his op-eds, little more than the print version of the various Greenfields and Strocchis. Good luck to him for earning a quid writing such tosh (on his laptop at the Toxteth Hotel? Who knows?). It doesn&#039;t mean it has to be taken seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Sheehan is, in his op-eds, little more than the print version of the various Greenfields and Strocchis. Good luck to him for earning a quid writing such tosh (on his laptop at the Toxteth Hotel? Who knows?). It doesn&#8217;t mean it has to be taken seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: TimT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear what you&#039;re saying Patrick, but I suspect Government isn&#039;t scared of deregulation because of audience numbers as you initially suggest - I think it&#039;s more to do with the undue influence of the existing competitors in the Australian TV market.

Hence the government has only considered those moves that protect the current competitors, and not moves that would open Australian TV up to new markets, and make it more competitive: there has been no real easing of the restrictions on foreign content, or foreign ownership, the introduction of digital television keeps getting pushed back... etc, etc.

The undue influence of Australian commercial networks on government is widely deplored: but the net result of the &#039;numbers argument&#039; seems to be that it allows commercial networks to further cement their power and influence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear what you&#8217;re saying Patrick, but I suspect Government isn&#8217;t scared of deregulation because of audience numbers as you initially suggest &#8211; I think it&#8217;s more to do with the undue influence of the existing competitors in the Australian TV market.</p>
<p>Hence the government has only considered those moves that protect the current competitors, and not moves that would open Australian TV up to new markets, and make it more competitive: there has been no real easing of the restrictions on foreign content, or foreign ownership, the introduction of digital television keeps getting pushed back&#8230; etc, etc.</p>
<p>The undue influence of Australian commercial networks on government is widely deplored: but the net result of the &#8216;numbers argument&#8217; seems to be that it allows commercial networks to further cement their power and influence!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of that is going to happen sooner or later anyway, patrickg.

If tv dies as a medium, people need to think strategically about how to fill the void for funding and distribution of what we might call very broadly &quot;public interest vidcast&quot;.

I&#039;m very sympathetic to the save our SBS/ABC sentiments, but things are really morphing, and putting your faith for the future in the revival of institutions is going to lead to a lot of disappointed hopes, I suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of that is going to happen sooner or later anyway, patrickg.</p>
<p>If tv dies as a medium, people need to think strategically about how to fill the void for funding and distribution of what we might call very broadly &#8220;public interest vidcast&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very sympathetic to the save our SBS/ABC sentiments, but things are really morphing, and putting your faith for the future in the revival of institutions is going to lead to a lot of disappointed hopes, I suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with comparing those markets Tim is the same thing that makes the govt so scared to deregulate broadcasting: numbers.

The majors are terrified in Australia of splitting their already small audience into ball-crushingly small splinters, pushing revenues further down than they are already (and on a numbers basis, Australia&#039;s tv ad revenues are significantly overpriced compared to other countries. I have no idea about radio).

And you can kiss all but the cheapest Australian made productions goodbye at the same time. The only ones that will get a guernsey will be the on govt. funded networks, or dirt cheap shit: 99% game shows and reality television, plus the two soaps that actually make money overseas. That&#039;ll be it.

If you think the networks will be flooded with quality television cf. HBO, etc. in the states, you&#039;d probably be wrong too. For the pathetic audience shares those shows garner, they&#039;ll be way too expensive for the networks to consider. The only reasons they can buy the Sopranos, or Survivor or whatever and then show it at 3am is because they get package deals. No audience, no package deals, so you can kiss that goodbye too.

I&#039;m no fan of communications industry regulation, given how very much of it is geared at cementing the power structures, rather than encouraging competition, but a free-for-all approach isn&#039;t necessarily the best in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with comparing those markets Tim is the same thing that makes the govt so scared to deregulate broadcasting: numbers.</p>
<p>The majors are terrified in Australia of splitting their already small audience into ball-crushingly small splinters, pushing revenues further down than they are already (and on a numbers basis, Australia&#8217;s tv ad revenues are significantly overpriced compared to other countries. I have no idea about radio).</p>
<p>And you can kiss all but the cheapest Australian made productions goodbye at the same time. The only ones that will get a guernsey will be the on govt. funded networks, or dirt cheap shit: 99% game shows and reality television, plus the two soaps that actually make money overseas. That&#8217;ll be it.</p>
<p>If you think the networks will be flooded with quality television cf. HBO, etc. in the states, you&#8217;d probably be wrong too. For the pathetic audience shares those shows garner, they&#8217;ll be way too expensive for the networks to consider. The only reasons they can buy the Sopranos, or Survivor or whatever and then show it at 3am is because they get package deals. No audience, no package deals, so you can kiss that goodbye too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no fan of communications industry regulation, given how very much of it is geared at cementing the power structures, rather than encouraging competition, but a free-for-all approach isn&#8217;t necessarily the best in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Via Trevor Cook, there is this &lt;a href=&quot;http://filmalert.blogspot.com/2007/08/selling-out.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;considered piece&lt;/a&gt; on the travails at SBS.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I mentioned above the work that David Stratton did in presenting the riches of the world’s film heritage for over twenty years. The program was generally called Cinema Classics and I estimate that David screened more than a thousand films in that time. It was a program replete with everything from curiosities like the Mexican Bunuels (just now re-screened at BIFF) to virtually every film made by Akira Kurosawa. If you made a copy of each you would have a library of unsurpassed breadth and quality. Of course we all forgot the films were on and forgot to set the recorder and went out drinking or whatever. But you have the right to expect that SBS would have retained the unique subtitles that it created for each of these works. (Often those subtitles were the first ever to be done of some films. I’m told there are copies of these films circulating, illegally, in quality US video rental stores. Piracy is a crime but cinephilia trucks no such restrictions.) But has SBS preserved this unique material or have its managers, amongst all the other mayhem they&#039;ve committed, let this resource be lost or destroyed? It’s a question that needs an answer by somebody competent to examine the channel’s activities in recent years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via Trevor Cook, there is this <a href="http://filmalert.blogspot.com/2007/08/selling-out.html" rel="nofollow">considered piece</a> on the travails at SBS.</p>
<blockquote><p>I mentioned above the work that David Stratton did in presenting the riches of the world’s film heritage for over twenty years. The program was generally called Cinema Classics and I estimate that David screened more than a thousand films in that time. It was a program replete with everything from curiosities like the Mexican Bunuels (just now re-screened at BIFF) to virtually every film made by Akira Kurosawa. If you made a copy of each you would have a library of unsurpassed breadth and quality. Of course we all forgot the films were on and forgot to set the recorder and went out drinking or whatever. But you have the right to expect that SBS would have retained the unique subtitles that it created for each of these works. (Often those subtitles were the first ever to be done of some films. I’m told there are copies of these films circulating, illegally, in quality US video rental stores. Piracy is a crime but cinephilia trucks no such restrictions.) But has SBS preserved this unique material or have its managers, amongst all the other mayhem they&#8217;ve committed, let this resource be lost or destroyed? It’s a question that needs an answer by somebody competent to examine the channel’s activities in recent years.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: TimT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I don’t see how you can prove that.&lt;/em&gt;

It depends what you&#039;d consider proof, I guess, but how about look at the approach governments/communities take to TV around the world and how the liberal approach compares to the nationalist/protectionist approach?

It&#039;s true, for instance, that there are national broadcasters in Britain, Canada, and even the US (of sorts), but they do so in the context of a large commercial television market.

Not proof, perhaps - but strong evidence that the liberal, non-protectionist approach to the TV industry is preferable and more resilient than other models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I don’t see how you can prove that.</em></p>
<p>It depends what you&#8217;d consider proof, I guess, but how about look at the approach governments/communities take to TV around the world and how the liberal approach compares to the nationalist/protectionist approach?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, for instance, that there are national broadcasters in Britain, Canada, and even the US (of sorts), but they do so in the context of a large commercial television market.</p>
<p>Not proof, perhaps &#8211; but strong evidence that the liberal, non-protectionist approach to the TV industry is preferable and more resilient than other models.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazarine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazarine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Sheehan says anyone &quot;truly&quot; interested in world news does &quot;what he does&quot; and catches their news on a range of pay TV channels.  He clearly doesn&#039;t realise that there are plenty of people out there, me included, for whom avoiding pay TV is a deliberate act, especially the type of rapid-recycle, short attention span news that dominates the pay TV channels (yes, I do check them out occasionally when staying in hotels for work - mainly to see if anything has improved, which it generally hasn&#039;t.  Do think David Spears does a good job on Sky, though).

Paul Sheehan, I don&#039;t want to make media owners richer by subscribing to their pay TV stations.  I want to continue taking my news from the public broadcasters and I insist on my right to quality news from this source.  Even if Australia lost both public broadcasters, I would still never subscribe to pay TV, and I&#039;m not alone.  I&#039;d then search for my news sources online, but I&#039;d make sure to avoid sources owned by the same small pool of businessmen (who aren&#039;t newsmen, and never will be, including James &#039;name your bets&#039; Packer).

Long live SBS - and come back Mary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Sheehan says anyone &#8220;truly&#8221; interested in world news does &#8220;what he does&#8221; and catches their news on a range of pay TV channels.  He clearly doesn&#8217;t realise that there are plenty of people out there, me included, for whom avoiding pay TV is a deliberate act, especially the type of rapid-recycle, short attention span news that dominates the pay TV channels (yes, I do check them out occasionally when staying in hotels for work &#8211; mainly to see if anything has improved, which it generally hasn&#8217;t.  Do think David Spears does a good job on Sky, though).</p>
<p>Paul Sheehan, I don&#8217;t want to make media owners richer by subscribing to their pay TV stations.  I want to continue taking my news from the public broadcasters and I insist on my right to quality news from this source.  Even if Australia lost both public broadcasters, I would still never subscribe to pay TV, and I&#8217;m not alone.  I&#8217;d then search for my news sources online, but I&#8217;d make sure to avoid sources owned by the same small pool of businessmen (who aren&#8217;t newsmen, and never will be, including James &#8216;name your bets&#8217; Packer).</p>
<p>Long live SBS &#8211; and come back Mary!</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just think SBS would be better able to fulfill its ‘multicultural’ values in a truly liberal TV environment.&quot;

I don&#039;t see how you can prove that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think SBS would be better able to fulfill its ‘multicultural’ values in a truly liberal TV environment.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how you can prove that.</p>
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