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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/31/federalism-what-would-socrates-think/#comment-76191</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Bartlett&#039;s post:

http://andrewbartlett.com/blog/?p=1667</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Bartlett&#8217;s post:</p>
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		<title>By: Texta Colours</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texta Colours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intereting article Kim. I did find this quote particularly illuminating:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The eventual defeat of the current federal government, perhaps as soon as late 2007, will inevitably trigger a wide-ranging discussion on the centre-right of goals and strategies. A strong case can be made that the Coalition received little direct political credit for outspending Labor in education, health and welfare.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The irony of which would surely not be lost on many commenters here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intereting article Kim. I did find this quote particularly illuminating:</p>
<blockquote><p>The eventual defeat of the current federal government, perhaps as soon as late 2007, will inevitably trigger a wide-ranging discussion on the centre-right of goals and strategies. A strong case can be made that the Coalition received little direct political credit for outspending Labor in education, health and welfare.</p></blockquote>
<p>The irony of which would surely not be lost on many commenters here.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim:
Thanks for that link to the paper on the Rise Of Big Government Conservatism.

Why do you think I keep talking about Howard&#039;s Soviet Australia?

Another way this regime bodgies up its statistics is by the use of military and security contractors: paid for by you and me but not officially on the payroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim:<br />
Thanks for that link to the paper on the Rise Of Big Government Conservatism.</p>
<p>Why do you think I keep talking about Howard&#8217;s Soviet Australia?</p>
<p>Another way this regime bodgies up its statistics is by the use of military and security contractors: paid for by you and me but not officially on the payroll.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/31/federalism-what-would-socrates-think/#comment-76188</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GregM:&lt;blockquote&gt; &quot;I am currently living north of the 22nd parallel&quot;. &lt;/blockquote&gt;  Aaah, now I see where your hostility to reform is coming from .... yes, you have probably been listening to some of the bludgers who are terrified at the thought of being tipped off their own little gravy-train if a &quot;new state&quot; or any similar reform is made; they&#039;re probably out on the streets right now screaming for Beattie to be hanged, drawn and quartered; they&#039;ve always been an obstacle to change, any change; if they had their way, the wireless and the motor-car would be abolished and God Save The King would still be the national anthem [bloody troglodytes]. They&#039;ve always tried to stop a &quot;new state &quot; coming into being.

Apart from these troglodytes, no doubt everyone else would feel that there are potential efficiencies and economies-of-scale that could come out of forced amalgamations,   Trouble is, they are only potential ones and may not necessarily be as good as they seem.

What is so stupid is that Beattie had a perfect opportunity to bring in long overdue reform and showed he was ready to  make bold moves to bring about change .... and then stuffed up, in large lumps, that golden opportunity to create regional or provincial or whatever entities that made economic and social sense and instead went for merely abolishing &quot;rotten borough&quot; councils.

Concepts like devolution and the subsidiarity about which Prof. Sampford spoke seem beyond the grasp of the Beattie government [and their Opposition can&#039;t find the dictionary, let alone the word :-) ].  This was the Beattie government&#039;s second huge blunder: they failed to see that moving more decision making power to a local area would generally lead to more efficiency and revenue-saving in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GregM:<br />
<blockquote> &#8220;I am currently living north of the 22nd parallel&#8221;. </p></blockquote>
<p>  Aaah, now I see where your hostility to reform is coming from &#8230;. yes, you have probably been listening to some of the bludgers who are terrified at the thought of being tipped off their own little gravy-train if a &#8220;new state&#8221; or any similar reform is made; they&#8217;re probably out on the streets right now screaming for Beattie to be hanged, drawn and quartered; they&#8217;ve always been an obstacle to change, any change; if they had their way, the wireless and the motor-car would be abolished and God Save The King would still be the national anthem [bloody troglodytes]. They&#8217;ve always tried to stop a &#8220;new state &#8221; coming into being.</p>
<p>Apart from these troglodytes, no doubt everyone else would feel that there are potential efficiencies and economies-of-scale that could come out of forced amalgamations,   Trouble is, they are only potential ones and may not necessarily be as good as they seem.</p>
<p>What is so stupid is that Beattie had a perfect opportunity to bring in long overdue reform and showed he was ready to  make bold moves to bring about change &#8230;. and then stuffed up, in large lumps, that golden opportunity to create regional or provincial or whatever entities that made economic and social sense and instead went for merely abolishing &#8220;rotten borough&#8221; councils.</p>
<p>Concepts like devolution and the subsidiarity about which Prof. Sampford spoke seem beyond the grasp of the Beattie government [and their Opposition can't find the dictionary, let alone the word <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ].  This was the Beattie government&#8217;s second huge blunder: they failed to see that moving more decision making power to a local area would generally lead to more efficiency and revenue-saving in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/31/federalism-what-would-socrates-think/#comment-76187</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, for instance:

http://www.cis.org.au/Policy/summer_06/summer_06_pdfs/summer_2006_norton.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, for instance:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cis.org.au/Policy/summer_06/summer_06_pdfs/summer_2006_norton.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org.au/Policy/summer_06/summer_06_pdfs/summer_2006_norton.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/31/federalism-what-would-socrates-think/#comment-76186</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;By the way, according to this graph at the ABS, then number of public servants has steadily declined from 1988 to 2000 and then shows a much smaller upswing through to 2005. The total number has decreased overall in that period from more than 160,000 to around 133,000, further supporting the Libs’ application of their philosophical commitment to smaller government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The graph doesn&#039;t account for the number of employees who are still paid by the federal government but are no longer employed by departments and thus members of the APS but by corporatised agencies. I suggest you look at the critique of Howard&#039;s big government conservatism from Andrew Norton who is himself a member of the Liberal Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>By the way, according to this graph at the ABS, then number of public servants has steadily declined from 1988 to 2000 and then shows a much smaller upswing through to 2005. The total number has decreased overall in that period from more than 160,000 to around 133,000, further supporting the Libs’ application of their philosophical commitment to smaller government.</p></blockquote>
<p>The graph doesn&#8217;t account for the number of employees who are still paid by the federal government but are no longer employed by departments and thus members of the APS but by corporatised agencies. I suggest you look at the critique of Howard&#8217;s big government conservatism from Andrew Norton who is himself a member of the Liberal Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They are a grab for power only in so far as they further limit the power of trade unions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure how you square that with the fact that they strip the state systems of coverage, and thus state parliaments and industrial relations commissions of power. Subsidiarity is not the only principle one can counterpose to centralism. It&#039;s a traditional justification for federalism that it enables policy not just to be directed to local needs (and there are substantially different labour markets and average wage levels across Australia) but also for policy innovation and experimentation. So, some jurisdictions (notably Tasmania and NSW) introduced innovative gender equity models in their legislation which were later picked up by others (now junked by WorkChoices, along with much else). In addition, it&#039;s much harder to have direct contact and influence on policy makers and representatives in Canberra than in a state capital or with a state member who has a smaller electorate to service.

These are all traditional anti-centralist arguments Liberals used to make, and they have much validity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They are a grab for power only in so far as they further limit the power of trade unions.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you square that with the fact that they strip the state systems of coverage, and thus state parliaments and industrial relations commissions of power. Subsidiarity is not the only principle one can counterpose to centralism. It&#8217;s a traditional justification for federalism that it enables policy not just to be directed to local needs (and there are substantially different labour markets and average wage levels across Australia) but also for policy innovation and experimentation. So, some jurisdictions (notably Tasmania and NSW) introduced innovative gender equity models in their legislation which were later picked up by others (now junked by WorkChoices, along with much else). In addition, it&#8217;s much harder to have direct contact and influence on policy makers and representatives in Canberra than in a state capital or with a state member who has a smaller electorate to service.</p>
<p>These are all traditional anti-centralist arguments Liberals used to make, and they have much validity.</p>
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		<title>By: Texta Colours</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/08/31/federalism-what-would-socrates-think/#comment-76184</link>
		<dc:creator>Texta Colours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronald, a couple of observations if I may:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Selling off Telstra is hardly populist and the same can be said of his power grabs on workplace relations and water.They’re not populist, they’re &lt;em&gt;big government&lt;/em&gt; neoliberalist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The sale of Telstra is hardly a grab for power or a move towards big government but rather is an example of privatisation (which of course is the philosophical antithesis of socialisation). Big government is contrary to the basic beliefs professed by the Liberals. From the Liberal party&#039;s website:
&lt;blockquote&gt;We believe in the inalienable rights and freedoms of all peoples; and&lt;em&gt; we work towards a lean governmen&lt;/em&gt;t that minimises interference in our daily lives; and maximises individual and private sector initiative.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

(Further, neo-liberalism defends the free economy, free trade and &lt;em&gt;small government&lt;/em&gt;.)

Neither is the Murray-Darling basin water initiative a power grab. (It is, incidentally, a case where it would be difficult to apply the principle of subsidiarity especially since the basin itself drains parts of Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and all of the ACT.) If it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; appropriate that one authority should manage the system and its water rights instead of the current multi-jurisdictional model, then the Federal government is probably the logical choice.

As far as workplace relations go, they are an application of the theory which holds that deregulation of the labour market (including the reform of unfair dismissal laws) will stimulate employment. They are a grab for power only in so far as they further limit the power of trade unions.

By the way, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/9B70071FB5E127C9CA25723500821F8C?opendocument&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;according to this graph at the ABS&lt;/a&gt;, then number of public servants has steadily declined from 1988 to 2000 and then shows a much smaller upswing through to 2005. The total number has decreased overall in that period from more than 160,000 to around 133,000, further supporting the Libs&#039; application of their philosophical commitment to smaller government.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Howard clearly listens to what Blainey has to say given that he’s appointed him as part of a panel to review the History syllabus.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is hardly surprising. Mr Howard has made it clear that he doesn&#039;t subscribe to the &#039;black-armband&#039; view of Australia&#039;s history so this was a no-brainer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald, a couple of observations if I may:</p>
<blockquote><p>Selling off Telstra is hardly populist and the same can be said of his power grabs on workplace relations and water.They’re not populist, they’re <em>big government</em> neoliberalist.</p></blockquote>
<p>The sale of Telstra is hardly a grab for power or a move towards big government but rather is an example of privatisation (which of course is the philosophical antithesis of socialisation). Big government is contrary to the basic beliefs professed by the Liberals. From the Liberal party&#8217;s website:</p>
<blockquote><p>We believe in the inalienable rights and freedoms of all peoples; and<em> we work towards a lean governmen</em>t that minimises interference in our daily lives; and maximises individual and private sector initiative.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Further, neo-liberalism defends the free economy, free trade and <em>small government</em>.)</p>
<p>Neither is the Murray-Darling basin water initiative a power grab. (It is, incidentally, a case where it would be difficult to apply the principle of subsidiarity especially since the basin itself drains parts of Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and all of the ACT.) If it <em>is</em> appropriate that one authority should manage the system and its water rights instead of the current multi-jurisdictional model, then the Federal government is probably the logical choice.</p>
<p>As far as workplace relations go, they are an application of the theory which holds that deregulation of the labour market (including the reform of unfair dismissal laws) will stimulate employment. They are a grab for power only in so far as they further limit the power of trade unions.</p>
<p>By the way, <a href="http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/9B70071FB5E127C9CA25723500821F8C?opendocument" rel="nofollow">according to this graph at the ABS</a>, then number of public servants has steadily declined from 1988 to 2000 and then shows a much smaller upswing through to 2005. The total number has decreased overall in that period from more than 160,000 to around 133,000, further supporting the Libs&#8217; application of their philosophical commitment to smaller government.</p>
<blockquote><p>Howard clearly listens to what Blainey has to say given that he’s appointed him as part of a panel to review the History syllabus.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is hardly surprising. Mr Howard has made it clear that he doesn&#8217;t subscribe to the &#8216;black-armband&#8217; view of Australia&#8217;s history so this was a no-brainer.</p>
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		<title>By: philiptravers</title>
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		<dc:creator>philiptravers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I think is the essential problem of governance in Australia, remains with the fundamentals of why individuals put themselves up for election.I think it is somewhat unwise to overlook this as the apparent failure of today s governing so why would new systems be any different!?The confidence of Brandis and how he answers questions should immediately show,it just doesnt matter, until these type people see themselves in a new way...and that normally occurs because of a loss of office.I have read and heard all sorts of hyperbole about how the system changes its participants,but, a regard for logic would deem that a great and useless insight.If people change once they are in the system could it be that ,that is the proof that the system doesnt change anyone at all!?I go over to American related sites,and the liberal versus conservative thing,and yet on some issues they tarnish any sense of honesty and urgency by pointing out the so called stupidity of irrelevance of others positions.I have enough problems defining myself as a positionist in our present system to not want to engage in the theoretical event, that provinces etcetera would do a better job. There would still need to be a civil or public service,and the experiences and qualifications for those jobs would need to be established.I am not convinced that the legal  and other determinants that are suggestive and real evaluators of individuals as they are is making our present systems as efficient and materially advantagious for all.For example,we have seen the Federal Government go into the Northern Territory with some strange concoctions of necessity unrelated in great part to the reports that were suggestive of actions.So Aboriginals in a CDEP scheme will be disemployed and then re-employed essentially to do the same thing,under the current understandings of what are real economics and something obscure using the word destiny.If I could do the job of a Mayor, State Minister,Or federal Member for a day,and have my decisions go through the bureaucratic processes as they are honestly, would this be any disadvantage to the remaining days Office Bearer!?The Aboriginals in some of these Community schemes have been acting in the National interest at a rate of pay lower than normal operatives,thus showing up a number of matters of evaluations at once.There may well be a time in the near future,where all levels of governance need to say to themselves..we are not the best,others can do the work, the work is both necessary and unnecessary,my power and prestige my real worth in a material sense requires me not to expect anything but the constant and real demand about wether competence is expressed at all in governance!? And would the judiciary be able to be like this too.!?Seems not,if taking Brennan seriously.For if terrorism exists and just waits to potentialise,if that meets the developmental outcomes as in the description of a act of terrorism,if whatever, operating authorities knew such likelihoods, why would it be necessary to curtail freedoms and liberties..whereas in fact should it be considered a lack of citizen responsibility!? So law,developed in keeping terrorism in mind would dutifully consider how not to interfere with essential freedoms but, insist by action of law on matters of meeting responsibilities.So, if these thoughts of mine at least meet a standard of logic, the requirements of responsibility of potential terrorist activists needs to be set out clearly in law as the essentialising matters of authorities actions against the irresponsible.With Brennan there is nothing definitive accept the authorities rights to act according to whatever law exists to stop terrorism,whereas I am saying that can lead anywhere,but doesnt have the limitation of the characterizing of responsibilities required.So Brennan is a retired Judge,which isnt a character assasination on my part,and I am essentially unemployed making a point about equivalence about matters law and justice. The operational processes of any form of governance usually requires people to intelligently engage their skills.This however, is not always as easy or as observable as the simple understanding suggests,in fact government appears in whatever form,the more intellectual input, the stupid it appears.A generality, I know, but not an unexpected one.So in offering up alternative structures,maybe ,it should all be preceeded by the unraveling of how it is our present systems in comparison have some sort of failing.That failing may have multiple factors,but in comparison with anything new not yet developed,a remaining resonance of just human failure ..but not complete systemic and systematic failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I think is the essential problem of governance in Australia, remains with the fundamentals of why individuals put themselves up for election.I think it is somewhat unwise to overlook this as the apparent failure of today s governing so why would new systems be any different!?The confidence of Brandis and how he answers questions should immediately show,it just doesnt matter, until these type people see themselves in a new way&#8230;and that normally occurs because of a loss of office.I have read and heard all sorts of hyperbole about how the system changes its participants,but, a regard for logic would deem that a great and useless insight.If people change once they are in the system could it be that ,that is the proof that the system doesnt change anyone at all!?I go over to American related sites,and the liberal versus conservative thing,and yet on some issues they tarnish any sense of honesty and urgency by pointing out the so called stupidity of irrelevance of others positions.I have enough problems defining myself as a positionist in our present system to not want to engage in the theoretical event, that provinces etcetera would do a better job. There would still need to be a civil or public service,and the experiences and qualifications for those jobs would need to be established.I am not convinced that the legal  and other determinants that are suggestive and real evaluators of individuals as they are is making our present systems as efficient and materially advantagious for all.For example,we have seen the Federal Government go into the Northern Territory with some strange concoctions of necessity unrelated in great part to the reports that were suggestive of actions.So Aboriginals in a CDEP scheme will be disemployed and then re-employed essentially to do the same thing,under the current understandings of what are real economics and something obscure using the word destiny.If I could do the job of a Mayor, State Minister,Or federal Member for a day,and have my decisions go through the bureaucratic processes as they are honestly, would this be any disadvantage to the remaining days Office Bearer!?The Aboriginals in some of these Community schemes have been acting in the National interest at a rate of pay lower than normal operatives,thus showing up a number of matters of evaluations at once.There may well be a time in the near future,where all levels of governance need to say to themselves..we are not the best,others can do the work, the work is both necessary and unnecessary,my power and prestige my real worth in a material sense requires me not to expect anything but the constant and real demand about wether competence is expressed at all in governance!? And would the judiciary be able to be like this too.!?Seems not,if taking Brennan seriously.For if terrorism exists and just waits to potentialise,if that meets the developmental outcomes as in the description of a act of terrorism,if whatever, operating authorities knew such likelihoods, why would it be necessary to curtail freedoms and liberties..whereas in fact should it be considered a lack of citizen responsibility!? So law,developed in keeping terrorism in mind would dutifully consider how not to interfere with essential freedoms but, insist by action of law on matters of meeting responsibilities.So, if these thoughts of mine at least meet a standard of logic, the requirements of responsibility of potential terrorist activists needs to be set out clearly in law as the essentialising matters of authorities actions against the irresponsible.With Brennan there is nothing definitive accept the authorities rights to act according to whatever law exists to stop terrorism,whereas I am saying that can lead anywhere,but doesnt have the limitation of the characterizing of responsibilities required.So Brennan is a retired Judge,which isnt a character assasination on my part,and I am essentially unemployed making a point about equivalence about matters law and justice. The operational processes of any form of governance usually requires people to intelligently engage their skills.This however, is not always as easy or as observable as the simple understanding suggests,in fact government appears in whatever form,the more intellectual input, the stupid it appears.A generality, I know, but not an unexpected one.So in offering up alternative structures,maybe ,it should all be preceeded by the unraveling of how it is our present systems in comparison have some sort of failing.That failing may have multiple factors,but in comparison with anything new not yet developed,a remaining resonance of just human failure ..but not complete systemic and systematic failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Raygun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Raygun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not to say that Howard doesn&#039;t engage in populism, he clearly does (MV Tampa).  He hasn&#039;t abandoned ideology any longer, it&#039;s just wrapped in words like &quot;pragmatic&quot; and &quot;aspirational&quot;.  Selling off Telstra is hardly populist and the same can be said of his power grabs on workplace relations and water.  They&#039;re not populist, they&#039;re big government neoliberalist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not to say that Howard doesn&#8217;t engage in populism, he clearly does (MV Tampa).  He hasn&#8217;t abandoned ideology any longer, it&#8217;s just wrapped in words like &#8220;pragmatic&#8221; and &#8220;aspirational&#8221;.  Selling off Telstra is hardly populist and the same can be said of his power grabs on workplace relations and water.  They&#8217;re not populist, they&#8217;re big government neoliberalist.</p>
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