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	<title>Comments on: Guest Post by Mercurius Goldstein: There goes the neighbourhood</title>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx for the post Mercurius.  The comparison between the Olympics and this exercise is telling. Gee the Olympics was fun!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx for the post Mercurius.  The comparison between the Olympics and this exercise is telling. Gee the Olympics was fun!!</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?
It&#039;s not like Mercurius&#039;s wife gashed you with a broken BOTTLE, poured petrol on you, set you ALIGHT, and then pushed you down a flight of stairs. So why don&#039;t you have a nice cup of STFU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?<br />
It&#8217;s not like Mercurius&#8217;s wife gashed you with a broken BOTTLE, poured petrol on you, set you ALIGHT, and then pushed you down a flight of stairs. So why don&#8217;t you have a nice cup of STFU?</p>
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		<title>By: huh?</title>
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		<dc:creator>huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing, from feedback I have heard in other cities, many australians think sydneysiders believe the world revolves around them and they should stop whingeing. That&#039;ll be the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, from feedback I have heard in other cities, many australians think sydneysiders believe the world revolves around them and they should stop whingeing. That&#8217;ll be the day.</p>
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		<title>By: huh?</title>
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		<dc:creator>huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH GET OVER YOURSELVES YOU ARE ALL DRAMA QUEENS.....it&#039;s our police not the janajweed militia you utter twits.

Stupid &quot;personal accounts&quot; like this again make the the Left look paranoid, primitive and like it sports a tinge of foreign-organisation. This tinge is evident in the rather weird, doesnt-quite-ring-true description of a security guard or a policeman.

If it was neither of those people wandering down the street why didnt your silly little wife call the police? Was she threatened? She should call the police. Maybe she felt &quot;displaced&quot; or &quot;disrupted&quot; by APEC??? Go home and get over yourself numbskull, and stop wasting police time.

Most people in Australia I bet would rather hang out with a copper any day than with some unhinged and paranoid leftie with truther conspiracies on their lips and deeply violent but utterly vague notions of &quot;resistance&quot; in their so-called minds. The only resistance that idiots like this can understand is when a sensible idea tries and fails to penetrate the block of wood that is their head.

The ugly left is anti-war? what a joke. A mere ONE MILLION people died in the Soviet war in Afghanisitan - hey but that&#039;s old news. OK, China today vetoes any UN action on genocide in Darfur bcause of OIL trade - but hey 200K DEAD and no STOP JINTAO PROTEST...not one.  In Russia, Putin is possibly behind the assassination of dissenters and journos with NUCLEAR materials (again, where are the protests?). China has 100,000 cases of rioting against the government last year, plus it sports mobile execution vans .. shall we go on?

BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE DEAF....You are purely anti-American full-stop and you want us to be paranoid just like you. But we&#039;re not. We&#039;re just really getting tired of you and your conspiracy rubbish.

Get over it and remember who you are, who we all are here - Australian - we dont fear police, because they are us. We dont fear our army because they are us. We dont need your imported &quot;fear of police&quot; crap that other countries have.

We dont have to be politicised here like you to have a political view. We like each other in this country remember?, we trust each other, remember? Your sort of agitprop propogates the hate that tears other countries apart.

But it is admittedly super hard for me to trust a &quot;wife&quot; who gets worried by a uniformed Australian. She is obviously having &quot;issues&quot; with her tin-foil hat and needs to get a grip on perspective. She definitely needs  a cup of tea and a long lie down.

There is no reason to import narrow (anti-global) hatreds or (Im a victim of the system) fear that your wife promotes or spread weird personal accounts of the new Newtown disease- APEC Hardship Syndrome. It&#039;s doesnt wash here in Australia so go and get vaccinated you morons.

Read carefully, all it is this week, you poor dear people, is APEC, THATS ALL. You, on the other hand, look like being hysterical twits for your whole lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH GET OVER YOURSELVES YOU ARE ALL DRAMA QUEENS&#8230;..it&#8217;s our police not the janajweed militia you utter twits.</p>
<p>Stupid &#8220;personal accounts&#8221; like this again make the the Left look paranoid, primitive and like it sports a tinge of foreign-organisation. This tinge is evident in the rather weird, doesnt-quite-ring-true description of a security guard or a policeman.</p>
<p>If it was neither of those people wandering down the street why didnt your silly little wife call the police? Was she threatened? She should call the police. Maybe she felt &#8220;displaced&#8221; or &#8220;disrupted&#8221; by APEC??? Go home and get over yourself numbskull, and stop wasting police time.</p>
<p>Most people in Australia I bet would rather hang out with a copper any day than with some unhinged and paranoid leftie with truther conspiracies on their lips and deeply violent but utterly vague notions of &#8220;resistance&#8221; in their so-called minds. The only resistance that idiots like this can understand is when a sensible idea tries and fails to penetrate the block of wood that is their head.</p>
<p>The ugly left is anti-war? what a joke. A mere ONE MILLION people died in the Soviet war in Afghanisitan &#8211; hey but that&#8217;s old news. OK, China today vetoes any UN action on genocide in Darfur bcause of OIL trade &#8211; but hey 200K DEAD and no STOP JINTAO PROTEST&#8230;not one.  In Russia, Putin is possibly behind the assassination of dissenters and journos with NUCLEAR materials (again, where are the protests?). China has 100,000 cases of rioting against the government last year, plus it sports mobile execution vans .. shall we go on?</p>
<p>BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE DEAF&#8230;.You are purely anti-American full-stop and you want us to be paranoid just like you. But we&#8217;re not. We&#8217;re just really getting tired of you and your conspiracy rubbish.</p>
<p>Get over it and remember who you are, who we all are here &#8211; Australian &#8211; we dont fear police, because they are us. We dont fear our army because they are us. We dont need your imported &#8220;fear of police&#8221; crap that other countries have.</p>
<p>We dont have to be politicised here like you to have a political view. We like each other in this country remember?, we trust each other, remember? Your sort of agitprop propogates the hate that tears other countries apart.</p>
<p>But it is admittedly super hard for me to trust a &#8220;wife&#8221; who gets worried by a uniformed Australian. She is obviously having &#8220;issues&#8221; with her tin-foil hat and needs to get a grip on perspective. She definitely needs  a cup of tea and a long lie down.</p>
<p>There is no reason to import narrow (anti-global) hatreds or (Im a victim of the system) fear that your wife promotes or spread weird personal accounts of the new Newtown disease- APEC Hardship Syndrome. It&#8217;s doesnt wash here in Australia so go and get vaccinated you morons.</p>
<p>Read carefully, all it is this week, you poor dear people, is APEC, THATS ALL. You, on the other hand, look like being hysterical twits for your whole lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,
I think you better lighten up. I get into blogging for fun as well as the pleasure of debate. I&#039;m not contradicting myself if I &quot;chortle&quot;  at a practical joke by some-one, no matter how inconvenient it might have been to the general public. I leave the name-calling to the professional pollies.
On a previous thread I think my assurances were that the APEC demo. would be non-violent. The Stop Bush Coalition repeated those assurances on TV this morning. I&#039;m naive enough to believe them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
I think you better lighten up. I get into blogging for fun as well as the pleasure of debate. I&#8217;m not contradicting myself if I &#8220;chortle&#8221;  at a practical joke by some-one, no matter how inconvenient it might have been to the general public. I leave the name-calling to the professional pollies.<br />
On a previous thread I think my assurances were that the APEC demo. would be non-violent. The Stop Bush Coalition repeated those assurances on TV this morning. I&#8217;m naive enough to believe them.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how it&#039;s done -

&lt;blockquote&gt;â??White Power!â?? the Naziâ??s angrily shouted once more, â??White flowers?â?? the clowns cheers and threw white flowers in the air and danced about merrily.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

via &lt;a href=&quot;http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/white-flour-by-digby-via-perlstein.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Digby&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how it&#8217;s done -</p>
<blockquote><p>â??White Power!â?? the Naziâ??s angrily shouted once more, â??White flowers?â?? the clowns cheers and threw white flowers in the air and danced about merrily.</p></blockquote>
<p>via <a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/white-flour-by-digby-via-perlstein.html" rel="nofollow">Digby</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve h</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
   What would be ideal is if a journalist could get one of those &quot;waving to noone&quot; photos. Rear quarter photo showing them waving to a full city block completely empty of people (excepting a the odd security person and a small flock of journo&#039;s), with the &quot;great wall of sydney&quot; in the distance...
:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
   What would be ideal is if a journalist could get one of those &#8220;waving to noone&#8221; photos. Rear quarter photo showing them waving to a full city block completely empty of people (excepting a the odd security person and a small flock of journo&#8217;s), with the &#8220;great wall of sydney&#8221; in the distance&#8230; <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GregM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe the kid with the paper bag was the anarchist, who, Greg, wouldn’t be making his inconvenient protest if APEC weren’t here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Paul that is just pure self-indulgence on your part. The &quot;kid&quot;, and you have no evidence it is a kid, is an arseh*le, not an anarchist.  Thousands of people will be protesting during the APEC meeting, Most of them will do so peacefully, and that is not only their right but an affirmation of our democracy , no matter how much Howard may have (or may not have) degraded it. However what you applaud and what you defend is the &quot;right&quot; of some peurile cretin to go beyond dissent to disrupt the lives of thousands of people whose lives have already been disrupted. You condemn Howard for treating them with contempt but then you applaud the cretins who treat them with contempt. There is word for that, hypocrisy, and you are a hypocrite. No doubt a smug self-satisfied one, but that is the nature of the hypocrite.

Mark, before you write to warn/criticise me about this post read Paul&#039;s post on the earlier thread with its pious claims of good intentions and its categorical  assurances about absolutely peaceful protests being planned and tell me what word other than hypocrite describes a person who makes those claims on that post and then posts here approving, as he has, an act that clearly is designed to cause disruption and distress to large numbers of people who do not need or deserve that imposition upon them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe the kid with the paper bag was the anarchist, who, Greg, wouldn’t be making his inconvenient protest if APEC weren’t here.</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul that is just pure self-indulgence on your part. The &#8220;kid&#8221;, and you have no evidence it is a kid, is an arseh*le, not an anarchist.  Thousands of people will be protesting during the APEC meeting, Most of them will do so peacefully, and that is not only their right but an affirmation of our democracy , no matter how much Howard may have (or may not have) degraded it. However what you applaud and what you defend is the &#8220;right&#8221; of some peurile cretin to go beyond dissent to disrupt the lives of thousands of people whose lives have already been disrupted. You condemn Howard for treating them with contempt but then you applaud the cretins who treat them with contempt. There is word for that, hypocrisy, and you are a hypocrite. No doubt a smug self-satisfied one, but that is the nature of the hypocrite.</p>
<p>Mark, before you write to warn/criticise me about this post read Paul&#8217;s post on the earlier thread with its pious claims of good intentions and its categorical  assurances about absolutely peaceful protests being planned and tell me what word other than hypocrite describes a person who makes those claims on that post and then posts here approving, as he has, an act that clearly is designed to cause disruption and distress to large numbers of people who do not need or deserve that imposition upon them.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg and Mark,
Maybe the kid with the paper bag was the anarchist, who, Greg, wouldn&#039;t be making his inconvenient protest if APEC weren&#039;t here.
And if nobody turned up? Like a scene out of some British plague movie. Yes, it would puncture the self-importance of JWH for one, sitting at his APEC round table like some kind of coat-twitching Mordred, trying to explain that Oz doesn&#039;t really care about who governs them, or the world, we only vote because we have to, and we don&#039;t bother about anywhere else because we&#039;re the best country in the world. He might then go into some detail as to how he&#039;s been trying to change the latter over the past 11 years, but it looks like most of us have woken up to him, so George, maybe you better go get on the turps with Kevin because he might be running the place in a few months. But before you do, please tell everybody I&#039;m the greatest leader in the Western World. No, tell them I&#039;m God, and they should obey me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg and Mark,<br />
Maybe the kid with the paper bag was the anarchist, who, Greg, wouldn&#8217;t be making his inconvenient protest if APEC weren&#8217;t here.<br />
And if nobody turned up? Like a scene out of some British plague movie. Yes, it would puncture the self-importance of JWH for one, sitting at his APEC round table like some kind of coat-twitching Mordred, trying to explain that Oz doesn&#8217;t really care about who governs them, or the world, we only vote because we have to, and we don&#8217;t bother about anywhere else because we&#8217;re the best country in the world. He might then go into some detail as to how he&#8217;s been trying to change the latter over the past 11 years, but it looks like most of us have woken up to him, so George, maybe you better go get on the turps with Kevin because he might be running the place in a few months. But before you do, please tell everybody I&#8217;m the greatest leader in the Western World. No, tell them I&#8217;m God, and they should obey me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think it&#039;d be hilarious if they erected all the barricades and gazetted the exclusion zones and no one showed up to protest. That would really send a message to the pompous &quot;leaders&quot; who are indulging themselves with what appears to be increasingly shaping up as a contentless and &quot;aspirational&quot; waste of time.

Unfortunately, the dynamics of protest are often as ritualistic and predictable as the machinations of &quot;leaders&quot;.

What I wouldn&#039;t give for some imaginative anarchist action instead of a few warped souls thinking they&#039;re subcommandante Marcos with a balaclava and a dose of violent nihilism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think it&#8217;d be hilarious if they erected all the barricades and gazetted the exclusion zones and no one showed up to protest. That would really send a message to the pompous &#8220;leaders&#8221; who are indulging themselves with what appears to be increasingly shaping up as a contentless and &#8220;aspirational&#8221; waste of time.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the dynamics of protest are often as ritualistic and predictable as the machinations of &#8220;leaders&#8221;.</p>
<p>What I wouldn&#8217;t give for some imaginative anarchist action instead of a few warped souls thinking they&#8217;re subcommandante Marcos with a balaclava and a dose of violent nihilism.</p>
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