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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-6/#comment-403699</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to wonder if we have become a police state when even &quot;yay authority&quot; current affairs shows like Today Tonight run stories on police heavy handedness. Fortunately however none of the APEC leaders escaped so the Australian public remained safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to wonder if we have become a police state when even &#8220;yay authority&#8221; current affairs shows like Today Tonight run stories on police heavy handedness. Fortunately however none of the APEC leaders escaped so the Australian public remained safe.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;800 Chav.

Get a digital photo taken from an office building and start counting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;ll have to count them alright Chav because SATP&#039;s blinker has slipped over his good eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>800 Chav.</p>
<p>Get a digital photo taken from an office building and start counting.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to count them alright Chav because SATP&#8217;s blinker has slipped over his good eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Zwilnik</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-6/#comment-401699</link>
		<dc:creator>Zwilnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh squeaking pip, foolish, fluid-based Tellurians. You call that a fence? Where is the 30,000 volts running through it? the poison gas sprayers? The tripwired cateagle pens? Why is it not festooned with the generative organs of anti-social miscreants as a festering decoration?

And what is this &quot;temporary&quot; excrement? In Boskone, &quot;temporary&quot; does not last for long. Permanent barriers is the only way to protect the juicy heart of metroplises for supreme leaders, flunkies, press attaches, floozies, flappers and spearcarriers to savor gilty pleasures without base lower orders smudging views, tracking earth on crimson carpets and requesting wheat-based products, secret ballots and dental services.

Permanent barriers should be 10,000 metres out as well to keep bantustans, club meds and gated gulags out of sightlines. Access by lower orders for service purposes only by tunnel.

It is all so much baby shoes for you Tellurians at this moment.  But soon, so soon, Boskone will show you there is more than one way to skin a infant.

Until the next time you hear from me the next time, ten four vulcanised sap water fowl!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh squeaking pip, foolish, fluid-based Tellurians. You call that a fence? Where is the 30,000 volts running through it? the poison gas sprayers? The tripwired cateagle pens? Why is it not festooned with the generative organs of anti-social miscreants as a festering decoration?</p>
<p>And what is this &#8220;temporary&#8221; excrement? In Boskone, &#8220;temporary&#8221; does not last for long. Permanent barriers is the only way to protect the juicy heart of metroplises for supreme leaders, flunkies, press attaches, floozies, flappers and spearcarriers to savor gilty pleasures without base lower orders smudging views, tracking earth on crimson carpets and requesting wheat-based products, secret ballots and dental services.</p>
<p>Permanent barriers should be 10,000 metres out as well to keep bantustans, club meds and gated gulags out of sightlines. Access by lower orders for service purposes only by tunnel.</p>
<p>It is all so much baby shoes for you Tellurians at this moment.  But soon, so soon, Boskone will show you there is more than one way to skin a infant.</p>
<p>Until the next time you hear from me the next time, ten four vulcanised sap water fowl!</p>
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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-6/#comment-401543</link>
		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever happened to that dart that someone supposedly threw at a cop at the back of the protest? You&#039;d think if it really existed the police would parade it in front of the cameras. What was the identity of the officer who got hit with the dart again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to that dart that someone supposedly threw at a cop at the back of the protest? You&#8217;d think if it really existed the police would parade it in front of the cameras. What was the identity of the officer who got hit with the dart again?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The politicians have been ripping the crap out of protestors for weeks now, saying there would *definitely* be significant violence. All kinds of names were hurled around. Now the protests have passed more or less peacefully (except the police), where is the apology for weeks of defaming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politicians have been ripping the crap out of protestors for weeks now, saying there would *definitely* be significant violence. All kinds of names were hurled around. Now the protests have passed more or less peacefully (except the police), where is the apology for weeks of defaming?</p>
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		<title>By: Chav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>800 people..?!

(Paris Hilton accent) Are you , like, serious?!  Like, whatever!

Hehehe..even the piggies said there were around 3000...

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>800 people..?!</p>
<p>(Paris Hilton accent) Are you , like, serious?!  Like, whatever!</p>
<p>Hehehe..even the piggies said there were around 3000&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-6/#comment-401505</link>
		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>800 Chav.

Get a digital photo taken from an office building and start counting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>800 Chav.</p>
<p>Get a digital photo taken from an office building and start counting.</p>
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		<title>By: Chav</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-6/#comment-401483</link>
		<dc:creator>Chav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If it was staged, you have to ask, what message was it supposed to send?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Staged or not I think it was supposed to send the same message that the government, police and media had been sending for the past few weeks... &#039;Don&#039;t demonstrate at APEC, or we will f%$k you up!&#039;.  Thankfully eight thousand or so people defied that threat and demonstrated anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If it was staged, you have to ask, what message was it supposed to send?</p></blockquote>
<p>Staged or not I think it was supposed to send the same message that the government, police and media had been sending for the past few weeks&#8230; &#8216;Don&#8217;t demonstrate at APEC, or we will f%$k you up!&#8217;.  Thankfully eight thousand or so people defied that threat and demonstrated anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Gall</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-6/#comment-401459</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Gall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do wonder about the lead-in and briefings the police received, as well as the way in which they were deployed, and how those things may have led to some inappropriate actions by framing the event as a confrontation in advance. The badge issue is a worry, because it suggests that they were expecting to be doing things that wouldn&#039;t necessarily be accepted by the public. I wonder whether that was because of an implicit endorsement by the people in charge of erring on the side of &#039;rigidity&#039; even where that meant crossing a line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wonder about the lead-in and briefings the police received, as well as the way in which they were deployed, and how those things may have led to some inappropriate actions by framing the event as a confrontation in advance. The badge issue is a worry, because it suggests that they were expecting to be doing things that wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be accepted by the public. I wonder whether that was because of an implicit endorsement by the people in charge of erring on the side of &#8216;rigidity&#8217; even where that meant crossing a line.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterc</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-6/#comment-401442</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/travel/apec-dents-sydneys-image/2007/09/10/1189276590020.html?s_cid=rss_news&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;using Sydney to strut the APEC world stage has had a backlash.&lt;/a&gt;  Further fallout about the &lt;em&gt;Sydney Wall &lt;/em&gt;.


&lt;blockquote&gt;Australia&#039;s tourism industry has slammed the image that Sydney&#039;s APEC summit has sent to the world.

Tourism and Transport Forum (TTF) managing director Christopher Brown says authorities failed to strike the right balance when given a promotional opportunity akin to Sydney&#039;s hosting of the Olympic Games.

&quot;Empty streets with concrete barriers, high fences and riot squad officers, snipers in buildings and helicopters.

&quot;We just got out of control ... we just didn&#039;t get the balance right between the imagery and security,&quot; Mr Brown told ABC Radio today.

&quot;It was not the image we should send to the world and I can understand completely why those from the tourism industry, who had thousands of rooms given back and who had no customers for the period in the city ... that there would be a concern today.&quot;

Mr Brown said Sydney residents also felt &quot;totally disenfranchised by their city and largely ashamed of the way their city looked&quot; during the summit, during which a five-kilometre, 2.8-metre high security fence cordoned off the northern part of the CBD, the Opera House and the Domain.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And then there is the brutal police behaviour.

Hmm.  Seems like another giant miscalculation on Howard&#039;s part.  His ego and delusions of self-importance are what is really bringing him undone after all these years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/travel/apec-dents-sydneys-image/2007/09/10/1189276590020.html?s_cid=rss_news" rel="nofollow">using Sydney to strut the APEC world stage has had a backlash.</a>  Further fallout about the <em>Sydney Wall </em>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Australia&#8217;s tourism industry has slammed the image that Sydney&#8217;s APEC summit has sent to the world.</p>
<p>Tourism and Transport Forum (TTF) managing director Christopher Brown says authorities failed to strike the right balance when given a promotional opportunity akin to Sydney&#8217;s hosting of the Olympic Games.</p>
<p>&#8220;Empty streets with concrete barriers, high fences and riot squad officers, snipers in buildings and helicopters.</p>
<p>&#8220;We just got out of control &#8230; we just didn&#8217;t get the balance right between the imagery and security,&#8221; Mr Brown told ABC Radio today.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was not the image we should send to the world and I can understand completely why those from the tourism industry, who had thousands of rooms given back and who had no customers for the period in the city &#8230; that there would be a concern today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Brown said Sydney residents also felt &#8220;totally disenfranchised by their city and largely ashamed of the way their city looked&#8221; during the summit, during which a five-kilometre, 2.8-metre high security fence cordoned off the northern part of the CBD, the Opera House and the Domain.</p></blockquote>
<p>And then there is the brutal police behaviour.</p>
<p>Hmm.  Seems like another giant miscalculation on Howard&#8217;s part.  His ego and delusions of self-importance are what is really bringing him undone after all these years.</p>
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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-6/#comment-401437</link>
		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suz, the footage shows the demonstrator being pushed backward toward the ground, but being held up on both shoulders by two cops. A third cop, possibly the one who pushed the demonstrator to the ground, then moves in and bends down towards the demonstrator and inflicts left and right blows to the general stomach area of the demonstrator, though not with too much force I thought. It had the bizarre appearance of being staged for the camera. If it was staged, you have to ask, what message was it supposed to send?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suz, the footage shows the demonstrator being pushed backward toward the ground, but being held up on both shoulders by two cops. A third cop, possibly the one who pushed the demonstrator to the ground, then moves in and bends down towards the demonstrator and inflicts left and right blows to the general stomach area of the demonstrator, though not with too much force I thought. It had the bizarre appearance of being staged for the camera. If it was staged, you have to ask, what message was it supposed to send?</p>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
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		<dc:creator>suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard a radio report on Saturday about footage that shows a policeman repeatedly punching a demonstrator (in the head, I think) and Scipione came on immediately afterwards to say that he didn&#039;t regret anything and that they&#039;d warned the public that the police were going to be &quot;very firm&quot;.
I think he has horrible eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a radio report on Saturday about footage that shows a policeman repeatedly punching a demonstrator (in the head, I think) and Scipione came on immediately afterwards to say that he didn&#8217;t regret anything and that they&#8217;d warned the public that the police were going to be &#8220;very firm&#8221;.<br />
I think he has horrible eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-5/#comment-401372</link>
		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However I shall reserve my view of the incident until I see footage of the 60 seconds immediately prior to that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can&#039;t wait to hear your objective pronouncement, satp. No doubt you will take into account the fact that the photographer was carrying her camera with both hands and was not in a position to physically assault the male officer, so there goes your provocation argument from the start.

However, you are right that the preceding seconds of the incident are important. This footage will be crucial to identify the officer involved as none of them were wearing their badges. This is against the law, and Scipione should be sacked for this.

Feminists should also be interested in the pushing incident as the offending officer was male and the victim was a female. This raises the question of why there were only male officers in the security lines. Was this another directive from Scipione?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However I shall reserve my view of the incident until I see footage of the 60 seconds immediately prior to that.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to hear your objective pronouncement, satp. No doubt you will take into account the fact that the photographer was carrying her camera with both hands and was not in a position to physically assault the male officer, so there goes your provocation argument from the start.</p>
<p>However, you are right that the preceding seconds of the incident are important. This footage will be crucial to identify the officer involved as none of them were wearing their badges. This is against the law, and Scipione should be sacked for this.</p>
<p>Feminists should also be interested in the pushing incident as the offending officer was male and the victim was a female. This raises the question of why there were only male officers in the security lines. Was this another directive from Scipione?</p>
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		<title>By: Spiros</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-5/#comment-401361</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police taking their badges off so they couldn&#039;t be identified was a very nice touch.

Before anyone says that they had to do that because the badge pins could be used as weapons by protestors, these badges are velcroed to the uniforms (or not, as the case may be). Page 7 of today&#039;s SMH has photos of 16 police who taken off their velcro badges, and one by the name of Carroll who had left his on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police taking their badges off so they couldn&#8217;t be identified was a very nice touch.</p>
<p>Before anyone says that they had to do that because the badge pins could be used as weapons by protestors, these badges are velcroed to the uniforms (or not, as the case may be). Page 7 of today&#8217;s SMH has photos of 16 police who taken off their velcro badges, and one by the name of Carroll who had left his on.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There especially needs to be an enquiry into the assault on a female photographer by a male constable shown several times on TV tonight.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The footage certainly shows her ending up on her back.  However I shall reserve my view of the incident until I see footage of the 60 seconds immediately prior to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There especially needs to be an enquiry into the assault on a female photographer by a male constable shown several times on TV tonight.</p></blockquote>
<p>The footage certainly shows her ending up on her back.  However I shall reserve my view of the incident until I see footage of the 60 seconds immediately prior to that.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-5/#comment-401346</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissus_(mythology)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ever read this myth?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissus_(mythology)" rel="nofollow">Ever read this myth?</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-5/#comment-401344</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it is my comment that you should reproduce&lt;/blockquote&gt;.

Oh dear!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it is my comment that you should reproduce</p></blockquote>
<p>.</p>
<p>Oh dear!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-5/#comment-401341</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone:

APEC is over, looks like the SCO won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone:</p>
<p>APEC is over, looks like the SCO won.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark (the other Mark)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark (the other Mark)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GregM,

OK, I see what you mean. I thought that Mr Denmore probably was not &quot;resort[ing] to cheap slogans&quot; since the comment on fascism seems fair to me, on reflection.

But I wasn&#039;t trying to misrepresent your comment and I agree that I should have quoted the whole thing; sorry.

It does change the context a little but the context wasn&#039;t really necessary for my point, which was only to express my surprise at how closely some of the recent APEC events (and some other recent government actions) could be considered fascistic.

I could probably have left out the quotes altogether except they&#039;re the comments which lead me to poke around the intertubes in the first place.

cheers
Mark (T&#039;other)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GregM,</p>
<p>OK, I see what you mean. I thought that Mr Denmore probably was not &#8220;resort[ing] to cheap slogans&#8221; since the comment on fascism seems fair to me, on reflection.</p>
<p>But I wasn&#8217;t trying to misrepresent your comment and I agree that I should have quoted the whole thing; sorry.</p>
<p>It does change the context a little but the context wasn&#8217;t really necessary for my point, which was only to express my surprise at how closely some of the recent APEC events (and some other recent government actions) could be considered fascistic.</p>
<p>I could probably have left out the quotes altogether except they&#8217;re the comments which lead me to poke around the intertubes in the first place.</p>
<p>cheers<br />
Mark (T&#8217;other)</p>
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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/06/a-lurker-reports-from-the-apec-frontline/comment-page-5/#comment-401274</link>
		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was not a security blunder. It sounds to me like a deliberate ploy by Howard-huggers amongst the NSW police to cause embarrassment to Mr Rudd.

The NSW police have really become politicized under the right-wing Italian Catholic Morris Iemma. The new commissioner, Scipione, has to go. He is a joke. There are several people under him that have to be given the boot too, but Scipione is protecting them. When Kevin comes to power in a few weeks time, he would do well to conduct an enquiry into the conduct of APEC security.

Here is another call for something similar.
&lt;blockquote&gt;If the NSW police under Scipione and Cullen act like they did at Hyde Park North Friday afternoon last with preferential support and prominence to a right-wing group obviously seeking to provoke a reaction in the same place and location, then the NSW Police will be culpable of provoking violence for their own political purposes, just like we saw with rock carrying Quebec police in Canada reported there in late August 2007 by ... CBC network.

That&#039;s properly a matter for the PIC. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/senior-police-scipione-cullen-risk-police-integrity-commission-over-apec-protest-permits

There especially needs to be an enquiry into the assault on a female photographer by a male constable shown several times on TV tonight.

PS - Andrew Scipione attends and is a member of Hillsong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was not a security blunder. It sounds to me like a deliberate ploy by Howard-huggers amongst the NSW police to cause embarrassment to Mr Rudd.</p>
<p>The NSW police have really become politicized under the right-wing Italian Catholic Morris Iemma. The new commissioner, Scipione, has to go. He is a joke. There are several people under him that have to be given the boot too, but Scipione is protecting them. When Kevin comes to power in a few weeks time, he would do well to conduct an enquiry into the conduct of APEC security.</p>
<p>Here is another call for something similar.</p>
<blockquote><p>If the NSW police under Scipione and Cullen act like they did at Hyde Park North Friday afternoon last with preferential support and prominence to a right-wing group obviously seeking to provoke a reaction in the same place and location, then the NSW Police will be culpable of provoking violence for their own political purposes, just like we saw with rock carrying Quebec police in Canada reported there in late August 2007 by &#8230; CBC network.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s properly a matter for the PIC. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/senior-police-scipione-cullen-risk-police-integrity-commission-over-apec-protest-permits" rel="nofollow">http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/senior-police-scipione-cullen-risk-police-integrity-commission-over-apec-protest-permits</a></p>
<p>There especially needs to be an enquiry into the assault on a female photographer by a male constable shown several times on TV tonight.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Andrew Scipione attends and is a member of Hillsong.</p>
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