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	<title>Comments on: Breaking news: Premier Pete resigns</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/</link>
	<description>Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas</description>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402122</link>
		<dc:creator>Sacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402122</guid>
		<description>okey-dokey about the preselection - I just didn't know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okey-dokey about the preselection - I just didn&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402119</link>
		<dc:creator>Sacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402119</guid>
		<description>Debnam became leader a long time before the 2007 election (Sep 2005) - he isn't an example of someone installed just before an election. He had sufficient time to build support for himself and his party, but failed. In fact, the NSW Coalition looked as if they might have won the election during November/December 2006, but then Debnam make a discredited allegation against a NSW Minister. Very poor judgement on Debnam's behalf. The coalition's support declined from then (from memory).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debnam became leader a long time before the 2007 election (Sep 2005) - he isn&#8217;t an example of someone installed just before an election. He had sufficient time to build support for himself and his party, but failed. In fact, the NSW Coalition looked as if they might have won the election during November/December 2006, but then Debnam make a discredited allegation against a NSW Minister. Very poor judgement on Debnam&#8217;s behalf. The coalition&#8217;s support declined from then (from memory).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402117</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402117</guid>
		<description>For non-Quincelanders, Grace Grace (yep, that's her real name) is our top "union boss".

Btw, Sacha, there's no great mystery about Bligh's preselection. She was anointed by Warner. That's about all that needs to be said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For non-Quincelanders, Grace Grace (yep, that&#8217;s her real name) is our top &#8220;union boss&#8221;.</p>
<p>Btw, Sacha, there&#8217;s no great mystery about Bligh&#8217;s preselection. She was anointed by Warner. That&#8217;s about all that needs to be said.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402116</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402116</guid>
		<description>Grace Grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grace Grace.</p>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402113</link>
		<dc:creator>Sacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402113</guid>
		<description>I wonder who the new member for Brisbane Central will be? Anyone take a guess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder who the new member for Brisbane Central will be? Anyone take a guess?</p>
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		<title>By: Sacha</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402091</link>
		<dc:creator>Sacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-402091</guid>
		<description>According to today's news reports, the Liberal party is still to preselect a candidate for Banks, technically a marginal Labor seat (margin ~3%). Astonishing.

I asked about Anna Bligh's preselection in case anyone here had any additional information about it - all I know about it is that I was at an ALP branch meeting in West End when it became known that Anne Warner had decided to retire, and someone said that it had been decided that Anna Bligh would be the candidate. Whether "it had been decided" meant that a deal had been done or that it was merely someone's good idea, I don't know. 

I remember reading about the preselection for Sth Brisbane after Kurilpa (held by Anne Warner) and Sth Brisbane (held by Jim Fouras) were basically amalgamated in the redistribution before the '86 state election (Brisbane Central went across the river to take a portion of Sth Brisbane). Jim Fouras popped up as the member for Ashgrove in the '89 election (Ashgrove had been variously held by the Liberals and the ALP in the previous few elections).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to today&#8217;s news reports, the Liberal party is still to preselect a candidate for Banks, technically a marginal Labor seat (margin ~3%). Astonishing.</p>
<p>I asked about Anna Bligh&#8217;s preselection in case anyone here had any additional information about it - all I know about it is that I was at an ALP branch meeting in West End when it became known that Anne Warner had decided to retire, and someone said that it had been decided that Anna Bligh would be the candidate. Whether &#8220;it had been decided&#8221; meant that a deal had been done or that it was merely someone&#8217;s good idea, I don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>I remember reading about the preselection for Sth Brisbane after Kurilpa (held by Anne Warner) and Sth Brisbane (held by Jim Fouras) were basically amalgamated in the redistribution before the &#8216;86 state election (Brisbane Central went across the river to take a portion of Sth Brisbane). Jim Fouras popped up as the member for Ashgrove in the &#8216;89 election (Ashgrove had been variously held by the Liberals and the ALP in the previous few elections).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401979</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401979</guid>
		<description>Pleasure, Ambigulous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pleasure, Ambigulous!</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401923</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401923</guid>
		<description>Thanks Mark for your reply at 3.50 pm on 10th. You're a scholar and a gentleman. We Vics hear little of the intricate background of Qld politics.

cheerio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark for your reply at 3.50 pm on 10th. You&#8217;re a scholar and a gentleman. We Vics hear little of the intricate background of Qld politics.</p>
<p>cheerio</p>
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		<title>By: grumphy</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401898</link>
		<dc:creator>grumphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401898</guid>
		<description>All I can think about is "What's that strange bloke who's been protesting all year outside 80 George Street with a half-dozen incomprehensible signs going to do now?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can think about is &#8220;What&#8217;s that strange bloke who&#8217;s been protesting all year outside 80 George Street with a half-dozen incomprehensible signs going to do now?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401802</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401802</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Where’d your gravvy go, Nabs?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Out for a crap in the neighbour's flowerbed.

OK he's back now but doing that disgusting balls and arse licking thing now. "On the phone" as I like to call it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Where’d your gravvy go, Nabs?</p></blockquote>
<p>Out for a crap in the neighbour&#8217;s flowerbed.</p>
<p>OK he&#8217;s back now but doing that disgusting balls and arse licking thing now. &#8220;On the phone&#8221; as I like to call it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401797</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401797</guid>
		<description>Where'd your gravvy go, Nabs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;d your gravvy go, Nabs?</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401795</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401795</guid>
		<description>There may be some kinda attitudinal generational thing going on here too. Both Bracksy and Beats started firming up their vocations in the early seventies, married women with similar attitudes shaped by the same times, scored the biggest job they could seriously aspire to in politics in their early 40s, had a very good innings and now see their early (and financial secure, thanks to parly super) fifties as a chance to be worldly and v. well connected empty nesters with the opportunity to do and see stuff they never could have while climbing the greasy pole. 

Very similar patterns are emerging among financially secure high achievers of similar vintage across a range of professions at the wealthiest end of first world countries.

Sometimes a career in politics is just a career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be some kinda attitudinal generational thing going on here too. Both Bracksy and Beats started firming up their vocations in the early seventies, married women with similar attitudes shaped by the same times, scored the biggest job they could seriously aspire to in politics in their early 40s, had a very good innings and now see their early (and financial secure, thanks to parly super) fifties as a chance to be worldly and v. well connected empty nesters with the opportunity to do and see stuff they never could have while climbing the greasy pole. </p>
<p>Very similar patterns are emerging among financially secure high achievers of similar vintage across a range of professions at the wealthiest end of first world countries.</p>
<p>Sometimes a career in politics is just a career.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401786</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401786</guid>
		<description>And did Debnam get a honeymoon? Baillieu... maybe. Flegg is the best example as it was a switch just before the election - and the Libs lost about 10 points of their vote in about a week or less. Though switching in government is different from switching in opposition - it's more likely to be messy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And did Debnam get a honeymoon? Baillieu&#8230; maybe. Flegg is the best example as it was a switch just before the election - and the Libs lost about 10 points of their vote in about a week or less. Though switching in government is different from switching in opposition - it&#8217;s more likely to be messy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401785</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401785</guid>
		<description>You have a bet!

(Except we should specify that he be alive at the election - we're betting on him being deposed or resigning, not dying which is a remote possibility).

FWIW, I think Costello would be a disaster for two reasons:

(1) He's very undisciplined and has been quite a scrappy campaigner prone to scoring own goals. The shorter the incumbency, the worse that he's likely to be.

(2) Whether or not he makes any policy or rhetorical changes, it can all be painted as insincere desparation at this stage of the game. And looks like panic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a bet!</p>
<p>(Except we should specify that he be alive at the election - we&#8217;re betting on him being deposed or resigning, not dying which is a remote possibility).</p>
<p>FWIW, I think Costello would be a disaster for two reasons:</p>
<p>(1) He&#8217;s very undisciplined and has been quite a scrappy campaigner prone to scoring own goals. The shorter the incumbency, the worse that he&#8217;s likely to be.</p>
<p>(2) Whether or not he makes any policy or rhetorical changes, it can all be painted as insincere desparation at this stage of the game. And looks like panic.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Gruen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401784</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Gruen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401784</guid>
		<description>Wbb,

And I thought you were one of the smarties too!  I don't think Costello would prosper as PM for any length of time, and I'm not saying he'd win if elected now, but I think it's the only thing that gives the Libs a chance.  Honeymoon effects and all that.  I think Howard is a dead duck.

Mark,

Happy to bet you $10 that Howard won't lead the Libs to the next election. (though given the state of the opinionosphere, I'm really offering the bet to make my - contrarian - point.  I guess given everyone else's point of view, I should be holding out for 2:1 odds or better, but there you go.)  An easy $10 for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wbb,</p>
<p>And I thought you were one of the smarties too!  I don&#8217;t think Costello would prosper as PM for any length of time, and I&#8217;m not saying he&#8217;d win if elected now, but I think it&#8217;s the only thing that gives the Libs a chance.  Honeymoon effects and all that.  I think Howard is a dead duck.</p>
<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Happy to bet you $10 that Howard won&#8217;t lead the Libs to the next election. (though given the state of the opinionosphere, I&#8217;m really offering the bet to make my - contrarian - point.  I guess given everyone else&#8217;s point of view, I should be holding out for 2:1 odds or better, but there you go.)  An easy $10 for you.</p>
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		<title>By: wbb</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401775</link>
		<dc:creator>wbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401775</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Howard cannot win. Costello might be able to pull things back.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nicholas Gruen! And I thought you were one of the smarties. Howard might not be able to win - might not - but Costello couldn't win in a thousand years. Unctuous arrogant disdainful snob that he is, he's completely transparent to voters. And hence completely unelectable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Howard cannot win. Costello might be able to pull things back.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nicholas Gruen! And I thought you were one of the smarties. Howard might not be able to win - might not - but Costello couldn&#8217;t win in a thousand years. Unctuous arrogant disdainful snob that he is, he&#8217;s completely transparent to voters. And hence completely unelectable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401773</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401773</guid>
		<description>No probs - I'll add a link to the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No probs - I&#8217;ll add a link to the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401772</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401772</guid>
		<description>Whoops. Bad link. I think that's supposed to go:

&lt;strong&gt;Trackback:&lt;/strong&gt; http://tphcm.blogspot.com/2007/09/beatties-gone.html

Thanks, Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops. Bad link. I think that&#8217;s supposed to go:</p>
<p><strong>Trackback:</strong> <a href="http://tphcm.blogspot.com/2007/09/beatties-gone.html" rel="nofollow">http://tphcm.blogspot.com/2007/09/beatties-gone.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks, Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401771</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401771</guid>
		<description>http://tphcm.blogspot.com/2007/09/beatties-gone.html/trackback/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tphcm.blogspot.com/2007/09/beatties-gone.html/trackback/" rel="nofollow">http://tphcm.blogspot.com/2007/09/beatties-gone.html/trackback/</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401770</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/10/breaking-news-premier-pete-resigns/#comment-401770</guid>
		<description>The Queensland Liberal Party &lt;a href="http://www.qld.liberal.org.au/ourTeam.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;candidate for Griffith is not on their site as yet&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Queensland Liberal Party <a href="http://www.qld.liberal.org.au/ourTeam.aspx" rel="nofollow">candidate for Griffith is not on their site as yet</a>.</p>
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